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1 posted on 11/07/2012 2:10:06 PM PST by NoLibZone
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There aren’t too many attractive options out there and even fewer countries that will let you stay longer than a few months. A young couple I know is getting ready to move to Costa Rica. They have to deposit money in CDs in a bank down there to prove they have income to live on. They say they and their young kids can live pretty well on about $2500/month and they have an online business.

Chile is fairly friendly to immigrants but it’s a long way down there, airfare is expensive, I understand the language is difficult to learn (not typical Spanish).

I believe there’s an age limit to immigrate to New Zealand, but if you have enough money, age probably doesn’t matter.

The big thing with these countries is that they expect you to arrive with money in the bank and a way to earn a living without being a drain on their country. Imagine that!


2 posted on 11/07/2012 2:14:15 PM PST by ChocChipCookie
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Is there any way of renouncing one’s US citizenship but retaining resident alien status or something equivalent?


3 posted on 11/07/2012 2:15:27 PM PST by huckfillary (qual tyo ta)
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Hell, wait a year and we’ll be to the left of Canada and Europe.


4 posted on 11/07/2012 2:17:23 PM PST by Behind Liberal Lines
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The choice is staying in a country that wants to turn into a 3rd world country versus moving to a 3rd world country. Not good.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 2:18:48 PM PST by ari-freedom
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There’s always Texas, it’s not another country but sure seems like it.

It’s nice here on the Alabama Gulf Coast. Very Red.


8 posted on 11/07/2012 2:19:01 PM PST by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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The Dominion of Melchizedek


10 posted on 11/07/2012 2:20:34 PM PST by frogjerk (Obama Claus is coming to town!)
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I believe, at least for now, that it is still possible to transfer funds into Texas.

But be sure you have a CURRENT passport. We’re still debating the need for Entry Visas, but a passport will soon be a must at our checkpoints.

Also, to be eligible to vote here, you MUST renounce all liberal leanings from your home state. We already have millions of these “social transplants”, so we don’t need anymore.

If all can be accommodated, then: WELCOME TO TEXAS!!!


12 posted on 11/07/2012 2:21:04 PM PST by BobL (You can live each day only once. You can waste a few, but don't waste too many.)
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Uruguay.


13 posted on 11/07/2012 2:21:24 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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Find out all the places where retired Air Force officers have gone to.

They know all the good the good places, and they know enough to keep it quiet.

14 posted on 11/07/2012 2:23:39 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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My top choices are Canada and Germany. Both are doing better economically.


15 posted on 11/07/2012 2:23:56 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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Ok I found this:

http://www.costaricalaw.com/legalnet/residency.html

RETIRING IN COSTA RICA

Pensionado and Rentista Residency

Costa Rica has had a Pensionado (Retiree) and Renitsta program for more than 40 years. This program continues to date as follows:

If you are planning to retire in Costa Rica and you have a pension or investment income then you may qualify for either PENSIONADO RESIDENCY or RENTISTA RESIDENCY. This program is governed by the New Immigration Law which confers residency status as follows:

1. PENSION BASED RESIDENCY [Pensionado]

The Pensionado (Retiree) applicant must demonstrate a permanent fixed income from a pension or similar retirement income of at least US$1,000 per month. The typical applicant in this category has a government, private sector pension or social security retirement benefits. The legal basis for the pensionado category under the new immigration is Article 81 of Law 8764.

2. INVESTMENT AND INCOME BASED RESIDENCY [Rentista]

To apply for residency under the Rentista portion the applicant must demonstrate a permanent fixed income of at least US$2,500 per month. This amount includes the applicant, their spouse and all their children which are under the age of 25. The legal basis for the rentista category under the new immigration is Article 82 of Law 8764

Generally, those who seek the Rentista category do not have a pension source and instead have investment income. To apply for this category it is necessary to provide proof of the investment and that it will generate the requisite amount per month which is required under this program. As such the applicant must provide a letter from their bank or financial institution where your funds are deposited certifying the existence of that income. It is not required that the funds be held in Costa Rica. The letter can be issued by international banks as well as Costa Rican banks.

The ideal letter issued by the financial institution should state that the recipient will receive at least US$2,500 per month in Costa Rica in a stable and permanent manner.

In both cases, Pensionado and Rentista the beneficiaries must comply with the following:

Prove that the funds were deposited in Costa Rica. This issue generally comes up when you are going to renew your residency category. When you renew your status you will be asked to provide proof that the funds have been sent to Costa Rica. As such keep records of all deposits until you complete your renewal of status. The easiest way to comply with this requirement is to ask your bank to issue a letter stating that you have an account with them and indicating that during the year you have exchanged the amount required by the immigration law i.e. $12,000 per year for Pensionado or $ 30,000 per year for Rentista.

Contribute to the Social Security System of Costa Rica. The current Immigration law (8764) requires that all residency holders must contribute towards the Costa Rican Social Security and Medical System (C.C.S.S.) The easiest way to comply is to request a voluntary policy known as seguro voluntario. The amount you pay is based upon the amount of income you report. Since the law establishes the monthly requirement i.e. $1,000 for Pensionado and $2,500 for Rentista those are the amounts they will base the payment on. For Pensionado that generally translates into a monthly social security payment of around $50 per month..


16 posted on 11/07/2012 2:24:04 PM PST by NoLibZone ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic")
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Let me know if you find a tolerable country that isn't a third world hole and will let you own a gun bigger than a pea-shooter.

I looked into this a while back but couldn't find one.

19 posted on 11/07/2012 2:25:50 PM PST by AAABEST (Et lux in tenebris lucet: et tenebrae eam non comprehenderunt)
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Retiring In Chiang Mai, Thailand On $1000 Per Month
20 posted on 11/07/2012 2:26:12 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the psychopath.)
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200K buys you in to Costa Rica:

INVESTING IN COSTA RICA
THE INVESTOR PROGRAM [Inversionista]

THE INVESTOR PROGRAM [Inversionista]

The Investor Category requires an applicant to demonstrate to the Department of Immigration that they will be coming to Costa Rica to invest in the country. The current Immigration Law maintains the investor category which had existed in previous immigration laws. The category is found in Article 79 (4) of the law.

In the past the law specifically excluded personal investments such as purchase of home, lots or buildings to qualify for this category. Subsequently on August 28, 2009 the Director of Immigration issued Circular UPI-239-2009-LAS which modified the types of investment that could be made to qualify for this category.

That circular states as follows:

“The investment amount must be $200,000 United States dollars or more according to the official exchange rate which is established by the Central Bank of Costa Rica. The investment can be made in tangible property, shares, negotiable instruments, productive projects or projects which are deemed of national interest”

In January of 2011 the government published the proposed regulation to the Immigration law and it adopts the flexibility in this category to be able to qualify with the purchase of “tangible property, shares, negotiable instruments, productive projects or projects which are deemed of national interest”

The door appears to be opening for new investor based applications. As more applications go through the process we will have a better criteria for how they are ruling on these applications.

Also bear in mind that the granting of Inversionista category is a discretionary matter with the Department of Immigration. It requires financial statements audited by a Certified Public Accountant to document the financial investment plan proposed.


21 posted on 11/07/2012 2:27:39 PM PST by NoLibZone ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic")
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Sounds to me like anyone living in Kalifornia is an ex-patriot.


30 posted on 11/07/2012 2:36:09 PM PST by crusty old prospector
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Bump for later.


34 posted on 11/07/2012 2:38:27 PM PST by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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http://tinyurl.com/avpkzv6

Explore the free info there.

Beware of some So. America places though: most are crime infected and if you are used to the (so far) relative safety of the US it will be a shock.


35 posted on 11/07/2012 2:38:41 PM PST by elpinta (Jer. 10:23 - It really holds true!)
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As a stranger in a foreign country, you don’t have the rights afforded by the United States Constitution. As a foreigner, you can’t assert them overseas. For the moment, our Contitutional rights remain intact. A coup could break-out at anytime in another country, in which case the rules may be suspended and any protection you may have had under that country’s laws are subject to interpretation by whoever’s in charge. I’ll take my chances here. Besides, I speak the language!


36 posted on 11/07/2012 2:40:58 PM PST by old school
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It depends on your finances. New Zealand and Australia would be optimal. Vancouver. All nice but expensive. Look to Panama. Costa Rica has a fare amount of crime.

I too have had this discussion with my family. Now that we are no longer a free country, we can pick from the various socialist countries out there. As it goes, our “takers” are really not as civilized as they are in other countries.

I am hoping that Texas would start succession plans. I am serious.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 2:44:20 PM PST by oiler (Reagan Republicans unite. Bob McDonnell in 2016. FlatTax is a fair tax.)
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Chile - on the move up, low pitch fork factor, not at war, any climate zone you could want, easy to get residency and eventual citizenship, spanish
Uruguay - can fit in, low pitch fork factor, look like Europeans, spanish, Rush sighted there, lots of good farmland and water

Asia:

Singapore - new world financial leader, well run, crime pretty non-existent, entrepreneurial, limited free speech. Not cheap.
Philippines - nice climate, can get by with English, depending on where (Cebu nice), cheap to live there.
Thailand - excellent medical care that is inexpensive, warm, friendly, cheap

[ditto, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, Cambodia)

Europe:

Most everywhere, you will appear to be one of them. You will need to speak their language eventually - though there are many expats throughout Europe. English speaking: Malta, UK, and many english-speakers in most countries.

Depending on what you are looking for and your age: New Zealand, and of course, Oz.

And that’s just it, what are you looking for??

Many places have displace our own country in terms of economic freedom and many measures of happiness.


42 posted on 11/07/2012 2:46:37 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Gone rogue, gone Galt, gone international. Gone.)
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