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To: Joseph Harrolds

Problem is, the bad guys have a prohibitive advantage in firepower, plus air supremacy.


41 posted on 11/07/2012 11:26:51 AM PST by ScottinVA (I've never been more disgusted with American voters.)
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I agree, the nation will survive this, in fact, my feeling is that within two years attention will begin to focus almost entirely on who to support as the candidate. Between now and then some general principles should be agreed upon. The next “Republican” candidate must also be a conservative and libertarian candidate. There is no point in running yet another centrist plan B candidate, this has now failed three times in five elections and only the superior political skills of the W team made that as low as three, could have been five.

Those million votes that the Libertarians drained off, and the stay-at-home Ron Paul loyalists, added up to defeat. Most “moderate” Republicans would vote for a pair of shoes rather than a liberal democrat, so it seems a better strategy to tack right, get all the votes available on that side, and give the voters a real choice.

Unless Obama changes the constitution, he won’t be running, and if it were Biden, he’s like Obama without charisma, a sure recipe to lose to a well-organized Republican. Hillary Clinton is well past her prime and would be equally vulnerable. Other possible candidates for the Democrats are not currently that prominent.

This four years may be tough, like a cultural civil war but likely to become a legislative standoff with Obama mainly posturing and doing most of his harm on the international front where the enemies of freedom can make substantial gains. Breaking up America will not help a quick restoration of international order after 2016.

I would think the focus should be on the 2016 election and the assumption that Obama will lose popularity making a conservative resurgence all the more likely. The political challenge is to sell this to Latinos and suburban women voters. There must be ways to do this, and self-interest is probably the path forward, what other point is there in conservative politics than to retain personal freedom against the insidious powers of the state?


48 posted on 11/07/2012 11:40:04 AM PST by Peter ODonnell (Obama: Just as I stilled the waters, I will bring peace and prosperity ... ruh-roh.)
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To: ScottinVA

The people who wield (or once wielded) the firepower are mostly red-staters. The libs cannot consider them reliable if the balloon goes up. As for the bad guys themselves, they think guns are icky, and don’t know a butt from a barrel.


60 posted on 11/07/2012 11:50:37 AM PST by teflon9 (Political campaigns should follow Johnny Mercer's advice--Accentuate the positive.)
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To: ScottinVA
Problem is, the bad guys have a prohibitive advantage in firepower, plus air supremacy.

That might not be the case, depending on what form a civil war would take. If it's like the Spanish Civil War, the military could side with the Right, which would probably include a majority of the country's firearms owners.

61 posted on 11/07/2012 11:53:22 AM PST by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: ScottinVA

Most combat aircraft are made in the South.


66 posted on 11/07/2012 11:55:24 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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