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Vanity: No more excuses It falls ultimately on the nominee for this lose not political shenanigans.
Wednesday July 7, 2012

Posted on 11/07/2012 2:39:36 AM PST by Bigtigermike

The Pravda-like corrupt national media, Zombie voters and dirty shenanigans are no excuse for losing this election because unfortunately these were a giving no matter who was the nominee - from Romney to Santorum to Newt or even if Sarah had ran and became the nominee - these things would have happen and for anyone to have beaten Obama but we would expect our nominee to have a strategy to negate or at least lessen these handicaps. If we can't even do that then we ought to just shut the whole thing down and cede the country if we can't win in this environment and high unemployment

Nor can we blame Chris Christy and Hurricane Sandy because looking at the numbers clearly show that alot of people had already made up their minds well before the storm and praised heaped on Obama had occured.

No, this is on the Republican Establishment and their choice - Willard Romney. The Republican base of conservatives (what's left of them) should and hopefully no longer buy the electability argument for an establishment candidate. From the view of the base, the elites have given away an eminently winnable election. Also this strategy of 'a vote against' is gone out the window as well, it clearly doesn't work. We must have a candidate that many can "vote for" enthusiastically as well as vote against the other party nominee. One of the clear things that probably doom Romney was the allowing Obama to bombard states like OH and VA with brutal attacks ads against Romney early on that DEFINED him with no proper response, I know some will claim that Romney couldn't get the money to respond until after he was nominated but he could have done something like do a lot of local TV interviews in those states or something instead of thinking that he just had to 'not lose' the election - which was what he was doing ala 'prevent defense'

Romney may very well be a nice guy so was Bob Dole and somewhat of McCain in the right sunlight but still Presidential losers. I sure hope that this time when we say 'NEVER AGAIN' like many said after McCain that we really mean it and tell the Establishment to stuff it.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: crybaby; gope; obama; palin; racecard; romney; teapartyfailure
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1 posted on 11/07/2012 2:39:42 AM PST by Bigtigermike
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To: Bigtigermike

the elections will be dominated more and more by open border hispanics/people who agree with them and people who want to be taken care of by the government.. good luck with that.


2 posted on 11/07/2012 2:46:33 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Bigtigermike

Yep, the GOP-E owns this disaster lock, stock, and barrel.


3 posted on 11/07/2012 2:47:49 AM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Bigtigermike
Bull crap its ultimately on the voters. It always has been.
4 posted on 11/07/2012 2:49:29 AM PST by linn37 (Newt supporter here.)
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To: Bigtigermike

The GopE really wanted Christie to run because they KNEW Mitt would have problems connecting with the folks. That’s what it’s all about.

If you put up richie rich guy from MA, it’s not going to work. Dems did the same thing with Kerry. Just as liberal as Obama so why didn’t he work out? It’s about the folks.


5 posted on 11/07/2012 2:53:41 AM PST by ari-freedom
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To: Bigtigermike

In fairness to Romney if he had run against a white president with a horrible record he probably would have won. Obama was elected president because he was black and that’s ultimately why he won again.


6 posted on 11/07/2012 2:55:02 AM PST by zt1053
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If you took a look at Mitt Romney’s record and his campaign rhetoric and then saw what Obama has done and his lies and you decided to stay home, I don’t know what to say.
It wasn’t Mitt’s fault that people stayed home, if they did. It’s not the mysterious GOP elite’s fault either. The distinction could not have been more stark and clear. We just have to digest this reality and understand that we might not be as popular anymore. A larger number of people think it’s the job of the government to give us free stuff, which is what they voted for.

Ronald Reagan ain’t walking through that door.


7 posted on 11/07/2012 2:56:07 AM PST by newnhdad (Where will you be during the Election Riots of 2012/2013?)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2
the elections will be dominated more and more by open border hispanics/people who agree with them and people who want to be taken care of by the government.. good luck with that.

This. All great civilizations eventually destroy themselves from within. It's an immutable flaw of human nature, and apparently it's our turn now.

8 posted on 11/07/2012 2:56:31 AM PST by Zeddicus
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To: Bigtigermike
No, this is on the Republican Establishment and their choice - Willard Romney. The Republican base of conservatives (what's left of them) should and hopefully no longer buy the electability argument for an establishment candidate.

I said this last night when Romney started slipping. Until a viable conservative candidate comes along, the GOPe will continue to run these RINOs out there and they will be defeated every time. With each defeat, the country slides toward socialist rule, and now nothing will stop it.

9 posted on 11/07/2012 2:57:37 AM PST by ducttape45
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To: Timber Rattler
Rush Limbaugh nailed it back in December.

VAN SUSTEREN: Why has Governor Mitt Romney not had a so-called "surge"? We hear "surge" used with basically every Republican nominee, but you don't see that "surge" with Governor Romney.

RUSH: Well, every poll I've seen of Republican primary voters, he can't crack 30 percent. It has been curious. And you look at it from the reverse, 70 percent of Republican voters want somebody else. This is why we have the phenomenon of the "Not-Romney." Bachmann was the "Not-Romney" for a while. Herman Cain was the "Not-Romney." Now Newt is the "Not-Romney." I think it boils down to something that's not complicated at all. Republican primary voters are conservative. They don't believe that Romney is. They believe that he will stick a finger in the air and moisten it and see which way the winds are blowing and try to get in that direction. They remember that Romney said he believes in global warming and he believes that man is causing it. Well, conservatives don't believe that. They believe it's a hoax. Conservatives know that the whole story of man-made global warming is a hoax. And they're not going to get excited by a candidate who is trying to gain favor with non-Republican primary voters by articulating that stuff.

Here's the big problem, Greta, for the Republicans. And I am a lone wolf on this. The rule of thumb in elections, both parties, 40 percent are going to vote Democrat automatically, whatever you do, 40 percent are going to vote Republican, automatic, no matter what you do. And in the middle, who do we have? The precious, God love them, independents and the moderates. And they are the targets. They are the focus of every election. And our brilliant campaign consultants tell our candidates they are the ones that know how to go get a majority of those independents. And we have, as Republicans, put ourselves in prison to this whole silly notion that you only win elections by moving to the center and getting great independents. Fine and dandy, but if you squander your base in the process, you haven't a prayer.

Rush Goes On the Record with Fox News Channel's Greta Van Susteren

10 posted on 11/07/2012 2:58:50 AM PST by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Bigtigermike

Sorry. I am no great fan of Romney and you can feel free to look at my posting history if you doubt that. To Gov. Romney’s credit he ran a competent campaign, ran hard and did as good of a job as any of us could hope for. It would be convenient to try to attach blame to him.

The problem we face is much worse than a poor candidate losing an election. The election boiled down to a choice between a radical socialist and a liberal who tried to run as a conservative. The American people in large numbers picked the radical socialist. They weren’t looking for conservatism, they were looking for a nanny state.

That’s the take away here.


11 posted on 11/07/2012 2:58:54 AM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: Bigtigermike

Bs. Romney ran a great campaign. Blame the average american idol moron voter.


12 posted on 11/07/2012 3:01:27 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Zeddicus

sadly yeah.. if last night was like 20 years ago Romney would have rolled over Obama


13 posted on 11/07/2012 3:02:07 AM PST by Lib-Lickers 2
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To: Bigtigermike

Mitt got the same percent of the white vote as Reagan did. What do you think changed?


14 posted on 11/07/2012 3:02:30 AM PST by MNDude
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But how do you explain Allen West’s election loss?
America has been a liberal country!


15 posted on 11/07/2012 3:04:42 AM PST by granada
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To: RKBA Democrat

I think it was more of the residual white guilt about voting out the first black president


16 posted on 11/07/2012 3:05:10 AM PST by zt1053
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To: Bigtigermike
Yours is one of many false dichotomies that we will hear in the next few years. Unless you live in Virginia or MD you didn't hear the wall-to-wall planned parenthood ads (your tax money at work) on all the radio stations (news, country, rock, etc). They lied and bashed Romney and then said not authorized by any candidate, etc. You didn't several fliers a day in your mailbox with the same crap.

The fact is that we are up against well-funded interests and media liars and that will never be overcome by any candidate alone. The only way we can succeed is to take back America from the cabal of elitists and leftists one good American at a time.

17 posted on 11/07/2012 3:05:44 AM PST by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Lib-Lickers 2; Bigtigermike
Ultimately the loss falls on the nominee. If the people whether they be latinos, white, asian or black failed to be convinced that conservatism is a better way, the messenger did not do a good job.

The candidate's own supporters calling those who thought that maybe we should take pre-election polling data seriously "concerned TROLLS" probably didn't help the cause either. Because of that, I question the quality of some of the people who may have been doing the groundwork for the candidate. The buck stops at Romney and the GOPe.

This is a loss for RINOs.

18 posted on 11/07/2012 3:06:05 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: newnhdad
It wasn’t Mitt’s fault that people stayed home, if they did.

Actually it is. But I doubt they stayed home. They voted for the other guy.

19 posted on 11/07/2012 3:08:09 AM PST by tsowellfan
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To: granada
But how do you explain Allen West’s election loss?

Was it a campaign for a seat he already had or a seat in a different district?

20 posted on 11/07/2012 3:11:44 AM PST by tsowellfan
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