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To: tomkat

Exactly......There is no help for “hopelessness” except “hope”. (God). You drug people to cover up their “emotions” which is NOT help...........it is what they do to the old people in nursing homes-—drug the masses, so it takes little work to deal with them and their problems and they are quiet.

Think of all the drugs people 40 and over take....just like Soma-——emotions are NOT TIED TO BEHAVIORS; they are CAUSED BY A PILL. It is evil.

How inhumane is that—to disconnect emotions from behavior.

Brave New World and/or 1984.


11 posted on 10/06/2012 5:05:09 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: savagesusie
You seem to be decrying the 'a pill for every emotion/ache/pain' mindset that seems so prevalent these days.
And there's no doubt that over-medication causes myriad personal and societal problems - many unnecessarily - whether the 'prescription' comes from an MD or over the counter.
But then again, maybe it's merely our limited historical experience bearing on the question, as folks have been reaching for 'something' since time immemorial.

What I hope you're not saying is that clinical depression is simply a haywire emotion in need of God, or some electively dodgy behavior remedied only by same ?

Not trying to be argumentative, just attempting to reel us back in toward the original thread topic.

Depression is as real as a tumor eating one alive inside .. capable of robbing one of much hope of life-buoying optimism, or of seeing the sky in more than various shades of grey.

Is it over-diagnosed in our chronically excuse-making America ?
Most certainly, by many scammers of many flavors on both the doctor and patient sides of the prescription pad.

And horse tranquilizer does seem a bit much on first glance . . hopefully, time & legitimate research will tell the tale in the end.
Bread mold probably seemed an absurdly far-fetched candidate for reducing battlefield wound infection mortality . . .


(and that's about all the typing i intend doing this weekend .. LOL)

24 posted on 10/06/2012 6:10:39 PM PDT by tomkat
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To: savagesusie

Depression is a serious mental disorder and for some people suffering from it, chemicals which induce behavioral changes by directly influencing their brain are a saving grace, without which they would be too suicidal / disruptive to prevent themselves from being harmed, along with others. I have seen enough such cases in my life to know how many lives have been saved by anti-depressant medications.


25 posted on 10/06/2012 6:13:18 PM PDT by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: savagesusie

Whoa! You are the second person to mention Soma. That is not ketamine; it is carisoprodol. It doesn’t help depression, at least in me, nor does it cause it.

Is my research faulty?


32 posted on 10/06/2012 6:38:18 PM PDT by Jemian
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To: savagesusie

I must put my two cents in here.....
I have gone thru rough times, and thanks to the grace of God have not had the need for what I call ‘happy pills’.

Many of my friends have, and I have concerns for them.

They aren’t religious, and that is a HUGE component of one’s well being.

Get that settled and squared away, and THEN see if there is a need for meds.


34 posted on 10/06/2012 6:45:30 PM PDT by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57 returning after lurking since 2000))
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