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Young alcoholic star 'covered in fluids needed for birth of alien life'
The Register ^ | 29th August 2012 14:15 GMT | Lewis Page

Posted on 08/29/2012 6:19:09 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

THEY CAME quite literally FROM OUTER SPACE

Top astro-boffins are chuffed today to announce that they have detected large amounts of chemicals necessary to birth alien life - not to mention some alcohol - drifting in space around a young star just 400 light-years away.

“In the protoplanetary disc of gas and dust surrounding the young, newly formed star, we found glycolaldehyde molecules, which are a simple form of sugar. It is one of the building blocks in the process that leads to the formation of RNA and the first step in the direction of biology,” explains astrophysicist Jes Jørgensen, a professor at Copenhagen uni.

Jørgensen and his colleagues observed the protoplasm-wreathed star using a large new international telescope, the Atacama Large Millimeter Array (ALMA), situated on the barren high-altitude Atacama desert plains in northern Chile. The prof believes that the team has a good handle on just how it can be that the elements of life had formed in outer space, without need of any hospitable Earth-style world as a habitat.

As a Copenhagen uni statement explains:

At first the gas and dust cloud is extremely cold (only around 10 degrees above absolute zero at minus 273 degrees C) and simple gases such as carbon monoxide and methane settle on particles of dust and solidify as ice. Here on the particles of dust, the otherwise volatile gases come close to each other and can bond together and form more complex molecules. When the star has been formed in the middle of the gas and dust cloud, it emits heat, and the inner parts of the rotating cloud surrounding the star is heated to around room temperature, after which the chemically complex molecules on the particles of dust evaporate as gas.

Pic credit: Astrophysical Journal Letters

The research suggests that the basic bits required to assemble complicated proteins can be formed in a solar system before planets even appear, possibly suggesting that if a hospitable world should come into existence the early strides in the development of life may already have been undertaken. However it's not at all clear just how space sugar, alcohol etc would interact with planets as they form. What is clear is that more knowledge of space protoplasm can tell us a lot about aliens.

"One of the big questions is whether it is common that these organic molecules are formed so early in the star and planet formation process – and how complex they can become before they are incorporated into new planets," explains Jørgensen. "This could potentially tell us something about the possibility that life might arise elsewhere and whether precursors to biology are already present before the planets have been formed.”

The new research is to be published in the journal Astrophysical Journal Letters. ®


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; UFO's; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: aliens; xplanets

1 posted on 08/29/2012 6:19:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SunkenCiv

Oh Boy!


2 posted on 08/29/2012 6:19:48 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And here I thought Linksay Lohan had been abducted by a UFO.....


3 posted on 08/29/2012 6:20:48 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Okay....I’ll admit it.

When I read about the “young alcoholic star covered with fluids...” I didn’t actually think the thread was going to be about this.

Isn’t that sick?

LOL


4 posted on 08/29/2012 6:21:56 PM PDT by Chasaway (Where are we going and why am I in this handbasket?)
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To: shibumi

“Linksay” = “Lindsay” - (Sheesh!)


5 posted on 08/29/2012 6:23:41 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach


Where's Ray Milland when you need him?
6 posted on 08/29/2012 6:26:06 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (I need a good stiff drink. How 'bout you?)
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To: Chasaway

Just from the title, I was kind of expecting it to be about some Hollywood casting call.


7 posted on 08/29/2012 6:26:50 PM PDT by green pastures (Cynicism-- it's not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

8 posted on 08/29/2012 6:29:17 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I'm not voting for Romney. The Grand Old Whig Party doesn't own my vote and failed to earn it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just 400 light-years?. Well just a three-day trip, I suppose.


9 posted on 08/29/2012 6:35:54 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

LOL I thought this was a thread about a drunk actress hahaha

I see another post thought something similar lol


10 posted on 08/29/2012 6:36:59 PM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

LOL I thought this was about Lindsay Lohan


11 posted on 08/29/2012 6:38:16 PM PDT by Bronco_Buster_FweetHyagh (I cling to guns and religion.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I thought this was a Miley Cyrus thread, boy was I off...


12 posted on 08/29/2012 6:38:56 PM PDT by madison10
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To: shibumi

LOL! We thought of the same starlet!


13 posted on 08/29/2012 6:43:55 PM PDT by Blogger
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I find it really hard to place much credence in an article peppered with coulds, mights, possiblys, etc. Almost sounds like a global warming article with lots of speculation and little on facts.


14 posted on 08/29/2012 6:45:31 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Skittle pooping unicorns are more common than progressives with honor & integrity.)
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To: shibumi

I thought of Amy Winehouse...


15 posted on 08/29/2012 7:07:21 PM PDT by null and void (Day 1318 of our ObamaVacation from reality - Obama, a queer and present danger)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Damn it Jim, I’m a doctor. Not a bar tender.


16 posted on 08/29/2012 7:10:23 PM PDT by DManA
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I thought this was another Lindsay Lohan thread.


17 posted on 08/29/2012 7:15:34 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I nominate this for the “Most Misleading Headline of the Month” award.


18 posted on 08/29/2012 7:17:48 PM PDT by Mr. Impatient (nopenopenopenopenopenopenopeSO MUCH NOPE)
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To: visualops

Everybody thought that. I came for the guilty/not guilty pictures. :^)


19 posted on 08/29/2012 7:18:46 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (Obama considers the Third World morally superior to the United States.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
" When the star has been formed in the middle of the gas and dust cloud, it emits heat, and the inner parts of the rotating cloud surrounding the star is heated to around room temperature, after which the chemically complex molecules on the particles of dust evaporate as gas."

And it tastes good too.


20 posted on 08/29/2012 7:21:15 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

21 posted on 08/29/2012 7:26:13 PM PDT by Bratch
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To: Cyber Liberty
Photobucket Okay...We Have an "unknown star" covered in some fluid...We needed this..LOL
22 posted on 08/29/2012 7:30:24 PM PDT by NCDave (AKA, "That idiot over there")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Photobucket
23 posted on 08/29/2012 7:30:29 PM PDT by stylecouncilor (Some minds are like soup in a poor restaurant...better left unstirred.-PG Wodehouse)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
"This could potentially tell us something about the possibility that life might arise elsewhere and whether precursors to biology are already present before the planets have been formed.”

Ahhhh..... the old 'chicken or the egg' mystery.

24 posted on 08/29/2012 7:30:47 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
lots of speculation and little on facts.

All 'unknowns' are approached that way.

25 posted on 08/29/2012 7:33:02 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Here's what happens after you get covered in fluids from an alien.


26 posted on 08/29/2012 7:39:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

In relation to the concept that planets might be formed with the complex molecules needed to create life already in place, is it possible that life on Earth started underground and then moved to the surface ?

It would seem that being underground might protect these early ‘complex’ molecules from damage during the timespan it must have taken to combine to form more active and mobile life forms. Early Earth was probably a real hell hole.


27 posted on 08/29/2012 7:45:54 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: Chasaway

I was thinking the same thing.....

When I saw the words “Young Alcoholic Star,” I thought some Hollywood type went off the deep end again.


28 posted on 08/29/2012 7:53:51 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (If people don't have to show an ID to vote, why do they have to show one to purchase a firearm?.)
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To: shibumi

Yeah...I read the headline and thought something happened to Miley Cyrus.


29 posted on 08/29/2012 8:05:54 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I just love it when boffins get chuffed. Especially astro-boffins. Chuffed astro-boffins, huzzah!


30 posted on 08/29/2012 8:07:45 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: F15Eagle

Nah, that would take over three months at warp 10!


31 posted on 08/29/2012 8:10:01 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: shibumi
And here I thought Linksay Lohan had been abducted by a UFO.....

I think we might share a brain!

Mark

32 posted on 08/29/2012 8:12:41 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Young alcoholic star ‘covered in fluids needed for birth of alien life’”

I thought this article was about Robert Downey, Jr.


33 posted on 08/29/2012 10:40:24 PM PDT by NYCslicker
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To: Delta 21

lol


34 posted on 08/29/2012 11:30:58 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I should think Directed Panspermia


35 posted on 08/29/2012 11:33:34 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Or I mean, perhaps Directed Panspermia?


36 posted on 08/29/2012 11:36:18 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Gee, after reading through the thread, I saw that I’m not alone in thinking some young Hollywood type went loco. Didn’t anyone proofread the headline before it went to press?


37 posted on 08/30/2012 3:43:32 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
I find it really hard to place much credence in an article peppered with coulds, mights, possiblys, etc. Almost sounds like a global warming article with lots of speculation and little on facts.

When we scientists do research, we're entering unknown territory. We don't have any answer books to tell us if we're correct or not. No matter how positive we are that our experimental results are correct, someone else can always come along and show how we are wrong. So we are trained to write in such a way as to express the uncertainty implicit in our work. (Yes, I am a scientist.)

The time to be suspicious is if you see someone claiming to be a scientist who does not use what I call "hedge words" and, instead, says everything as if it is established, undisputable fact. They are most likely a quack trying to sell you a bill of goods. That is especially applicable in the "global warming" debate--most of those pushing it don't use hedge words.

38 posted on 08/30/2012 3:57:51 AM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Guess these guys thought that worked well so they are trying it!


39 posted on 08/30/2012 11:44:34 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: UCANSEE2

Movie magic....LOL!


40 posted on 08/30/2012 11:49:14 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: shibumi

I have to admit that I only clicked on this thread to see how many posts it would take before the first Lindsay Lohan mention.


41 posted on 08/30/2012 11:55:00 AM PDT by tnlibertarian (Government's solution to everything: Less freedom.)
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To: exDemMom

I think it was carefully constructed....Brits like to do that it seems!


42 posted on 08/30/2012 11:56:17 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: tnlibertarian
LOL...

Did it set a record?

43 posted on 08/30/2012 12:05:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Slings and Arrows; Revolting cat!

Could THIS explain Michael Jackson's actions???

44 posted on 08/30/2012 4:22:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; skinkinthegrass; KevinDavis; annie laurie; Knitting A Conundrum; Viking2002; ..
Thanks Ernest.
 
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45 posted on 08/30/2012 9:33:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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