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To: ColdOne

Criminal charges are ridiculous. It isn’t like he abandoned the dog in his back yard. If you go out into rough country, you can find yourself in danger of dying. If a storm was moving in, and he didn’t have the equipment to take the dog out...abandon the dog.

Most of those saying otherwise have never been in the position of needing to worry about losing their life.


15 posted on 08/18/2012 12:44:31 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (Liberalism: "Ex faslo quodlibet" - from falseness, anything follows)
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To: Mr Rogers

That’s disgusting. He left that suffering animal to die, and she was lying there for 8 days, because he didn’t care enough to even go back. He’s willing to do the climb for fun, but not to try to rescue the poor dog which was HIS responsibility?


21 posted on 08/18/2012 1:07:40 PM PDT by Politicalmom (Liberalism. Ideas so great they have to be mandatory.-FReeper Osage Orange)
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To: Mr Rogers
I have been in that position Mr Rogers; several times, and you never, ever walk away from your responsibility. Leaving the dog to go for help I can understand, just leaving it to die because it is more convenient is bullcrap. This so called person is nothing but a piece of s##t in my opinion and should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. He would be lucky that I would not be his judge; I have plenty of rope in the shop and plenty of nice strong oak limbs on the farm.
38 posted on 08/18/2012 1:46:01 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: Mr Rogers
Yes, but he never went back for the dog either.

He just left it to die.

Hopefully the cruelty charges will make sure the dog stays with the rightful owner, the one who cared enough for it to rescue it.

47 posted on 08/18/2012 2:01:24 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Pr 14:34 Righteousness exalteth a nation:but sin is a reproach to any people)
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To: Mr Rogers
Most of those saying otherwise have never been in the position of needing to worry about losing their life.

Well, I'm one that can speak from that position. I went through a flood, lost everything, but was able to rescue our dog that was literally floating down the road.

The man could have gone back to check on his dog, but chose not to. He has now given up all rights to that dog, IMO.

51 posted on 08/18/2012 2:04:07 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: Mr Rogers

re: “Criminal charges are ridiculous. It isn’t like he abandoned the dog in his back yard. If you go out into rough country, you can find yourself in danger of dying. If a storm was moving in, and he didn’t have the equipment to take the dog out...abandon the dog.”

The dog is “property”, but the dog is different than a bike or a car or other inanimate object - right? The dog is a living creature that can feel pain and starvation. A person can be “cruel” to a bike or a car, but the bike or the car do not experience pain and suffering like a living creature. There is a difference because an animal can feel pain and suffering at the hands of an owner.

I do not blame the owner for making a possible life and death decision to take the younger hiker to safety, and, I do not know, without more information than given in the story, whether criminal charges against the owner are justified. However, he should have checked on the dog as soon as he possibly could to verify if the dog died or survived. To just assume it was dead is a pretty big assumption.

If he had left another person behind because that person was also injured and he could only take one of them, then yes, you make the best decision you can, but then you try like h*ll to get help for the one you had to leave behind. You wouldn’t just assume the one you left died. Even if you did you would still attempt to verify it and try to get all the help you could.

This guy is suspect to me because, at least according to the article, he never even attempted to check on the dog. And, another thing, the dog’s paws were cut to ribbons by the rocks during their original hike and that’s why the dog couldn’t follow them down the mountain - who in their right mind would try to bring their dog on such a hike.

Once you saw the dog was hurting itself on the rocky terrain - that is the point you decide you need to turn back. Even if criminal charges aren’t justified, there is NO WAY he should get the dog back because he’s demonstrated he doesn’t know how to properly take care of the dog.


58 posted on 08/18/2012 2:10:11 PM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Mr Rogers

‘Most of those saying otherwise have never been in the position of needing to worry about losing their life.”

Bullsh*t.

One of my dogs jumped on my chest to revive me after I went unconscious from smoke inhalation when the wood stove back drafted while I was asleep.

Gagging, choking, dazed and confused, I got her and _five other big dogs_ out of that house and sat huddled under a blanket with them in the sub-zero February night, waiting for the smoke to clear out of the house.

I wound up with double pneumonia that nearly killed me but I got my dogs out.

I’m a 5’3”, 100 lb shrimp and *I* managed.


68 posted on 08/18/2012 2:28:12 PM PDT by Salamander (Snakes. It had to be snakes.)
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To: Mr Rogers

It was cruel and inhumane to bring the dog up there to begin with. I would throw the book at this guy.


72 posted on 08/18/2012 2:32:30 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Mr Rogers
If a storm was moving in, and he didn’t have the equipment to take the dog out...abandon the dog.

If he wasn't ready for an overnighter in the snow, he's a Darwin Award waiting to happen. If he got scared off a mountain by the prospect of a July snowstrom, then he had no business being up there. Hunker down with the dog.

76 posted on 08/18/2012 2:35:33 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Mr Rogers

“Most of those saying otherwise have never been in the position of needing to worry about losing their life.”

He brought the dog to that location with that weather approaching. The dog was his responsibility. I don’t think the dog can read a weather map. Substitute “dog” for “child” and rethink your position.


121 posted on 08/18/2012 9:49:12 PM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
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