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July 2012 not a record breaker according to data from the new NOAA/NCDC U.S. .....
Watts Up With That? ^ | August 8, 2012 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 08/09/2012 7:38:24 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 08/09/2012 7:38:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Paladin2; Rocky; WhiskeyX; BwanaNdege; Sherman Logan; MrB; justa-hairyape; publius911; ...

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2 posted on 08/09/2012 7:42:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Almost 2 inches of rain today which is more than we've seen in southern Michigan all summer. Too little, too late but it could be worse.

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Comparing droughts: 1934 and 2012
3 posted on 08/09/2012 7:44:13 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Heretic! Your lack of proper enthusiasm for the AGW belief system has been noted!



Sadly, not sarcasm. Anyone that looks at facts and figures and comes to a reasoned conclusion that doesn't support their agenda/beliefs is attacked.
4 posted on 08/09/2012 7:49:51 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ThunderSleeps
See this thread from the JoNova blog posted earlier today:

Ray Evans reviews The Denialist Victory ( Man-Made Global Warming Advocate not happy)

5 posted on 08/09/2012 7:59:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: cripplecreek
maybe 30 years back or so a fellow developed a thesis that the great droughts in China and America follow the same cycles ~ and within those cycles they have a quadrant effect.

That was the strangest part ~ there's a high planes quadrant, a SW quadrant, a SE quadrant and an Ohio Valley/St. Lawrence quadrant.

In one cycle the droughts will affect just one quadrant, and in others two, and maybe three, but rarely four.

He speculated the quadrant rules in both America and China were similar but since the droughts run about 21 years apart, he didn't have enough data to prove much.

The map you provided shows less coverage in the US in this drought than in 1934. That's because it affects only 2 quadrants, and not 3 like in 1934.

Think about that one a second ~ if 34 was the maximum we've experienced and that didn't hit all 4, then what is it like when there's a 4 banger?

I think we know ~ there was a great drought in what is now the United States that came to an end about 1611 or so. It'd been raging for 17 years in most of Virginia ~ which is why there are no 425 year old trees around here. Earlier there'd been a 70 year period of diminished rainfall.

If you ever wondered why the Spanish didn't do much with the Eastern Seaboard, there you have it.

That's a 4 banger ~ and everything dries up everywhere. Populations crash. Grasslands open up from the Gulf to the Great Lakes (DeSoto reported grasslands filled the interior ~ from the Gulf to the Great Lakes ~ not many trees ~ you could literally see everywhere for miles and miles. Efforts to settle in Texas in that period were total disasters.

Pearl Buck wrote about a similar phenomenon in China that she'd heard about. The drought was everywhere ~ not just a short term extension of the Gobi, but everything in Northern and Central China dried up.

I think that's 1813 or so ~ they lost hundreds of millions of people ~ all the way West in the far North to the Kola peninsula.

Good news today ~ it's raining in Indiana and Ohio and a Typhoon made it into Central China.

We will live another day.

6 posted on 08/09/2012 8:03:05 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I believe 1934 is the record hottest year at least in the upper Midwest. My Mother told of temperatures that summer well above 100 to as much as 115 degrees and the heat wave lasted well into the fall. We have only had a few days of 100+ temps this summer and certainly not like 1995 when we had weeks of temps above 100.


7 posted on 08/09/2012 8:09:20 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
This is an excellent write up.

One of the big problems with the earlier, legacy climate monitoring stations is that they are poorly sited near artificial sources of heat or cold and they are located in urban heat islands where the temperature are artificially high due the heat absorption of concrete and blacktop pavement and the heat generated by burning fossil fuels and waste heat from electrical use, all in a concentrated area.

Many of these stations were originally located in rural areas when they were installed many decades ago, but have become increasingly surrounded by higher and higher density urban development.

This encroachment accounts for much of the observed temperature increase over time , as well as the gradual increase in measured temperature over time as the locations became increasingly surrounded by urban development and the corresponding increase in the urban heat island effect

8 posted on 08/09/2012 8:19:12 PM PDT by rdcbn
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Most interesting Post...thanks for adding it.
9 posted on 08/09/2012 8:21:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: rdcbn
They have an acronym for that.....UHI....which is the Urban Heat Inpact...or Influence....

You will see it often on the WUWT website.

10 posted on 08/09/2012 8:35:29 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And if they are gonna extrapolate the US average temperature onto the global trend of climate change, why not include Alaska ? Adding that size of a land mass could only make the average more accurate when extrapolating onto any global trend. Hawaii just does not have enough land mass to make much of a difference.


11 posted on 08/09/2012 8:36:38 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Book marked.


12 posted on 08/09/2012 8:54:26 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (My greatest fear is that when I'm gone my wife will sell my guns for what I told her I paid for them)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: Your response to another Freeper.
"They have an acronym for that.....UHI....which is the Urban Heat Inpact...or Influence...."
Tis the bottom line. The fix was put in a number of years ago, as to shutting down of the many American and Canadian surface stations and their relocation to idiotic sites.
Evil IMHO forces where at work, for many years to reach where they hoped to know be positioned. Those two years of hacked data files sort of put a big damper on their evil doings.
13 posted on 08/09/2012 9:07:58 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Can we really believe the so-called records anymore? I remember back in May 5, 1972 the temp in Tulsa, OK was 105 downtown.

Yet when I try to find this listed the records only show about 92 degrees.


14 posted on 08/09/2012 9:11:30 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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Very interesting....gremlins at work I guess.


15 posted on 08/09/2012 9:39:23 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Here are some temp links. Bookmark them as they are very hard to find on the web page.

Dallas
http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/wxclimatology/daily/USTX0327?climoMonth=7

Wichita, Ks
http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/wxclimatology/daily/USKS0620?climoMonth=7

OKC
http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/wxclimatology/daily/USOK0400?climoMonth=8

Tulsa
http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/wxclimatology/daily/USOK0537?climoMonth=7


16 posted on 08/09/2012 10:01:19 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Tyrannies demand immense sacrifices of their people to produce trifles.-Marquis de Custine)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Fascinating and bookmarked Ernest—excellent post—we are reminded yet again-—facts are stubborn things.


17 posted on 08/09/2012 10:05:58 PM PDT by hatfieldmccoy (It's not racism..... it's probability, actuarial tables, statistics. Facts are stubborn things.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The Govt will only report data when it is consistent with CAGW proponents’ claims.


18 posted on 08/10/2012 12:22:19 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Excellent information and good question for NOAA/NCDC.


19 posted on 08/10/2012 4:46:58 AM PDT by Techster
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Amazing man this Watts fellow


20 posted on 08/10/2012 7:43:48 AM PDT by tubebender
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