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Occupy Black Bloc Member James E. Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater
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Posted on 07/21/2012 8:36:33 AM PDT by securityMama

Radical Left-Wing & Registered Democrat, Obama Supporter, Occupy Black Bloc Member James E. Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater: Sources: Net White Punk Targeted U.S. Military Service members: The false stigmas of right-wing Tea Party radicals, once again being shattered in Aurora Colorado. A radical far Left-Wing and Registered Democrat and avid Obama Supporter, “Occupy Black Bloc Member James E. Holmes Shoots Up Aurora Co Movie Theater Killing 12 And Wounding 50. A lone gunman dressed in riot gear and wearing a gas mask burst into a movie theater in Aurora, Colo., at a midnight showing of the Batman film “The Dark Knight Rises” and opened fire, killing at least 12 people and injuring at least 50.

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There is way too much politicizing of this horrible crime; the point is that the main stream media has always been too quick to blame the Tea Party.
1 posted on 07/21/2012 8:36:41 AM PDT by securityMama
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To: securityMama
the point is that the main stream media has always been too quick to blame the Tea Party.

Almost as quickly as they tell us NOT to blame this on the Muslim religious fanatics.

2 posted on 07/21/2012 8:39:52 AM PDT by ssaftler (11/6/2012: Time to repeal our One Bad-Ass Mistake, America.)
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To: securityMama
Can you prove any of the associations asserted here?

I especially like how Sean Hannity spent his entire show politicizing it by criticizing others for politicizing it. He's a terminal boob.

3 posted on 07/21/2012 8:41:23 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: securityMama

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4 posted on 07/21/2012 8:41:46 AM PDT by devolve (-------------- ------- no servers - no intelligence ----------- ---------------------)
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To: securityMama
There is way too much politicizing of this horrible crime; the point is that the main stream media has always been too quick to blame the Tea Party.

And THAT is precisely why we have to throw this right back in their faces, as forcefully as possible!

I was chatting with a friend on Facebook this morning. She heard the story about James Holmes being a member of the Tea Party and then left for work. She never heard the retraction and correction that he is a leftist anarchist.

If we do not make this political, it will stick to us. Just like "I can see Russia from my house" has stuck to Palin. Just like "potatoe" has stuck to Dan Quayle. Just like "no authorization for war in Iraq" has stuck to Bush43.

We are outnumbered and outgunned by the liberal media.

I'll be damned if I will let them play politics while I play nice.

No more!

5 posted on 07/21/2012 8:43:17 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Admin Moderator
Virtually every sentence in the opening post is unverified and inflammatory.

This thread should be zotted immediately. It does not reflect well on FR and plays directly into liberal and leftist hands.

Leni

6 posted on 07/21/2012 8:45:01 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Erik Latranyi

You are exactly right, Erik.


7 posted on 07/21/2012 8:49:07 AM PDT by nodumbblonde ("The ladder of success is best climbed by stepping on the rungs of opportunity." - Ayn Rand)
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To: securityMama

I didn’t care about the who or the why, but the media always does and blames us.

Brian Ross and their ilk just don’t understand the Tea Party.

It couldn’t have been a Tea Party guy. I don’t know any tea partiers that go to midnight movie showings.

Really really sad and heartbreaking. I don’t blame the dad for taking his girl to the movie. It must have sounded like fun. Who would have ever guessed something like this would happen?


8 posted on 07/21/2012 8:49:30 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: MinuteGal

I agree. It’s difficult enough sorting out what’s true from what’s false in this story without articles like this.


9 posted on 07/21/2012 8:49:50 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: MinuteGal

You know what? Screw the left. They play this s**t all the time. Hell, I might even outright-FABRICATE some damned evidence. I’m pretty good at this computer stuff, so.... Yes. I think I will.


10 posted on 07/21/2012 8:50:43 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Borg Zombies walk around groaning "Commmppuutteerrrrssss......Commmppuutteerrrrssss......")
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To: securityMama

We also get the almost-immediate FBI statement that ‘it was not terrorism or terrorist related.’

Many theater goers, regular citizens, and probably the makers of the movie — who stand to lost $millions — would disagree.

Of course, the MSM hate incidents like this that turn out to not fit The Agenda.


11 posted on 07/21/2012 8:52:06 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: MinuteGal
maybe you are missing the point, or then, maybe you get the point.

This is what the professional Leftwingtards do day in and day out.

I doubt there's any chance anyone will dare criticize us for having that piece in there ~ why would they? They'd be accused of insensitivity to the victims in that the deletion of the story would be interpreted as an attempt to coverup for the killer!

12 posted on 07/21/2012 8:54:28 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Lazamataz
Good morning. I saw your early post.

The thing that bothers me is that if there is any concrete evidence that shows this mass murder is like Loughner, Kzinyski (sp) etc., the state controlled media will bury it.

5.56mm

13 posted on 07/21/2012 8:58:41 AM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Erik Latranyi
I was chatting with a friend on Facebook this morning. She heard the story about James Holmes being a member of the Tea Party and then left for work. She never heard the retraction and correction that he is a leftist anarchist.

That is the leftists/democrats plan:

"Never let a crisis go to waste"

1 - Get the leftist narative out early. Fill the information vacuum before the true facts are known.

2 - Issue a correction later, only if you have to. Many who heard the first accusation will not hear the correction, and most will still remember the first account they heard.

14 posted on 07/21/2012 9:02:36 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: securityMama

I may be too politicized but think about who politicized it. The dems took the gloves off and they deserve it back in spades. If you do not defend yourself you are like a sheep being led to the slaughter. That is exactly why we are where we are now.


15 posted on 07/21/2012 9:06:10 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: securityMama

The Left ALWAYS politicizes every major event. They expect no opposition from conservatives. Hell yeah this is being politicized, and we had better fight back or else the Left will do what they always do. That is use an event as a pretext to silence, disarm, or steal (via taxes) from conservatives.
Just go down the list. Global warming-cap and tax, OK city- silence talk radio, any major shooting- gun control. It goes on and on.


16 posted on 07/21/2012 9:10:42 AM PDT by grumpygresh (Democrats delenda est; zero sera dans l'enfer bientot.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

It may not be politicized at all. The act itself may have been pure leftwing politics.

Let’s find out. And bell/cage the cat.


17 posted on 07/21/2012 9:13:13 AM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To: securityMama
When we surrender the language, we lose the argument before it's begun. To "politicize" something is entirely a leftist, neutralizing term, used by leftists, to change the subject when their monsters are uncovered.

If Holmes is eventually discovered to have an autographed picture of himself with Sarah Palin at a shooting range on his apartment wall, few, if anyone, on the right will want to say, "let's not politicize it."

"We should talk about root causes and suburban alienation."

This is because present day American conservatism is based upon belief in objective reality, that truth (though not understood exhaustively) exists.

Two and two always equal four, everywhere in the universe.

Instead, why not stop short of using every leftist label eventually discovered to be objectively true (by the weight of anecdotal, not necessarily scientific, evidence) and begin with calling this fellow 'a member of a paramilitary,' or 'anarchist,' cell 'associated with the Occupy Wall Street movement,' or just a 'Black Bloc' member, etc.

The leftist tactic of drilling the bias into to the narrative for the sake of the appearance of objective neutrality, without overselling the point, allows the narrative to sound unbiased and immediately puts the left on the defensive.

In politics, when you are defending, you are losing.

There is truly neutral position, only a persistent perception, a belief in an illusion of neutrality. God, and the other facts, alone possess actual neutrality.

18 posted on 07/21/2012 9:19:22 AM PDT by Prospero
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To: securityMama

This will have to go out on the conservative alternative media because the Leftist msm will never publish it. Pelosi should be so proud that one of her OWS “heroes” is in the news.


19 posted on 07/21/2012 9:19:34 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: the invisib1e hand

I know, how dare that bastard defend himself when he and Rush were called out BY NAME for inciting this.


20 posted on 07/21/2012 9:26:03 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: Erik Latranyi

So the response to lies should be falsehoods, the response to stupidity should be idiocy?


21 posted on 07/21/2012 9:34:17 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: MinuteGal
"This thread should be zotted immediately."

So, you want to delete articles from sources that appear daily on FR?

What other sources do you want to delete?

Or do you just want to delete selected articles that don't fit your world view?

And, once deleted, what site should those of us who consider ourselves intelligent enough to discern truth from fiction flock to.

Of course, that would be most FReepers, so you could expect FR to wither and die.

Congratulations, you have killed Free Republic.

Feeling better now?

22 posted on 07/21/2012 9:35:11 AM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: securityMama

NONSENSE. There is ZERO documentation in this article. ZERO


23 posted on 07/21/2012 9:36:27 AM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: devolve

This isn’t about blacks (people of African descent). It’s about violent anarchists. AFAIK, no reputable info about his political beliefs or affiliations has been established. ABC and Breitbart goofed.


24 posted on 07/21/2012 9:37:20 AM PDT by PghBaldy
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To: Erik Latranyi

Then you DISPROVE their accusations! You don’t make up your own to fit our side’s narrative. There is ZERO evidence at this time that this Holmes is an OWS agent. Nothing in the link here identifies him as such beyond an opening accusation. The pictures on other threaDS of “Holmes” being carried off by cops are said to be in Occupy San Diego, though the cops are clearly NYPD. The other vid is posted by a James Willy Holmes while the killer’s name is James Eagan Holmes.Our side has to stop this or else what Ross did yesterday will be completely obscured.


25 posted on 07/21/2012 9:38:04 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: Erik Latranyi

Then you DISPROVE their accusations! You don’t make up your own to fit our side’s narrative. There is ZERO evidence at this time that this Holmes is an OWS agent. Nothing in the link here identifies him as such beyond an opening accusation. The pictures on other threaDS of “Holmes” being carried off by cops are said to be in Occupy San Diego, though the cops are clearly NYPD. The other vid is posted by a James Willy Holmes while the killer’s name is James Eagan Holmes.Our side has to stop this or else what Ross did yesterday will be completely obscured.


26 posted on 07/21/2012 9:38:04 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: securityMama

This Marc Chabot needs some documentation for his headline. None is provided in the article.

” I would first look at the possibility that James Holmes, DOB 12/13/1987, was caught up in the OWS movement” This is speculation, which magically turns into fact. Sounds as if this was lifted from a similar article by that ‘detective’ whose name eludes me.

Irresponsible writing.


27 posted on 07/21/2012 9:38:53 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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To: TomGuy

Yeah, the Fort Hood shooting was ‘not terrorist related’ either, even though Hasan is a radical islamist, he was openly advocating suicide bombers, and he was exchanging e-mails with the now-dead terrorist Anwar al-Awlaki.

So what does a perp have to do to make something terrorist-related, issue a press release stating so?


28 posted on 07/21/2012 9:39:15 AM PDT by Excuse_My_Bellicosity (Liberalism is a social disease.)
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To: diogenes ghost

It should be deleted because there’s no evidence it’s true.

It’s a fundamental question of whether there is an objective truth that exists out there, or whether what is true is what you want to believe, or whether the way to combat lies is to invent your own lies and spread them.


29 posted on 07/21/2012 9:39:32 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

He was just indoctrinated at the Liberal University of Colorado. Maybe, this helps explains his actions.


30 posted on 07/21/2012 9:42:20 AM PDT by auggy ( http://www.wtv-zone.com/Mary/THISWILLMAKEYOUPROUD.HTML)
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To: securityMama

I am usually a supporter of civility and restraint in circumstances like this, but the left has shown itself to be entirely unrestrained and determined to do nothing but defeat our nation without shame and without any regard to fairness. Therefore, I see this as war and as such, I am in favor of posts like this.


31 posted on 07/21/2012 9:42:39 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: Strategerist
whether the way to combat lies is to invent your own lies and spread them.

Yes.

32 posted on 07/21/2012 9:44:06 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I hate the Universe, and it hates me.)
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To: xkaydet65
Then you DISPROVE their accusations! You don’t make up your own to fit our side’s narrative. There is ZERO evidence at this time that this Holmes is an OWS agent.

OWS posted the information themselves, on their website.

Here is a link showing the OWS website information before they scrubbed it.

Occupy Wall Street Names Colorado Massacre Shooter James Holmes as Occupy Black Bloc Member

33 posted on 07/21/2012 9:44:19 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Oh this text is taken entirely from taken from a web page that went up early yesterday from some self-proclaimed “private investigator” in Florida with a goofy website(whose main business is apparently following cheating spouses)

On the page he had a picture of someone in a gas mask (unclear who they were or what they were doing), some OWS protesters, and an OWS guy wearing black and a black motorcycle helmet and breaking a window.

The basic “argument” seemed to be that because Holmes was wearning black and had something on his head, that it merited investigation whether he was in OWS.

I think there were some exceptionally stupid people who thought the pictures actually showed Holmes, which they do not.


34 posted on 07/21/2012 9:44:44 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Erik Latranyi
OWS posted the information themselves, on their website.

I've already posted information on FR that Holmes was an agent of a FR member and was ordered to perform the massacre by that member.

That's evidence of equal validity.

Do you not understand how internet forum postings work?

35 posted on 07/21/2012 9:50:49 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: devolve
- Add the city/cities that you avoid -

Baltimore, MD
Philadelphia, PA
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36 posted on 07/21/2012 9:51:19 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: Strategerist

37 posted on 07/21/2012 9:51:19 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: Erik Latranyi
A radio talk show host in my area a few days ago claimed her son interns for Warner Bros, and said it is known that the studio has been receiving many threats recently, presumably because of the Dark Knight release.

I had no idea (and neither did she, apparently) that the threats might have stemmed from the theme of the movie, which by accounts is anti-anarchist & pro capitalist.

Don't know whether this is linked to the shootings but it seems likely IMO.

38 posted on 07/21/2012 9:53:16 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Strategerist

You miss the point. The one-way war of disinformation needs to become a two-way war. Merely playing defense does not cut it. Yesterday a facebook “friend” posted a link purporting to show that the rate of “gun violence” was highest in red states. In the very small print, however, was the author’s definition of “gun violence”. It included all injuries from not only criminal acts, but self-defense and mere accidents as well. The “friend” who posted it simply ignored my objection to the obvious misleading nature of the link, and continued to talk about the “gun violence” in those red states. This is how they operate, and guess what, it works.


39 posted on 07/21/2012 9:54:16 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: securityMama

This couldn’t be true. Has Brian Ross reported it yet? If not, it can’t be true.


40 posted on 07/21/2012 9:56:07 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: Erik Latranyi

You didn’t answer my question - do you understand how internet forum postings work?


41 posted on 07/21/2012 9:57:38 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: PghBaldy
no reputable info about his political beliefs or affiliations has been established

Considering that he was a PhD candidate just a few weeks earlier, I would bet that he wrote a manifesto of his beliefs and reasoning. It could be on a home computer. Last I heard this morning, the apartment is still booby-trapped, so no one had gone inside.

I watched one 'live' report that interviewed his California neighbor. That man said he finished his Masters but was unable to find a job. That is why he went into the PhD program. [So, does that mean we can blame Obama's jobless 'recovery' or perhaps it was the pending regs coming with Obamacare. We can have all kinds of speculation.]


42 posted on 07/21/2012 9:59:22 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: dinoparty
You miss the point. The one-way war of disinformation needs to become a two-way war.

I hate to think anyone here is intentionally spreading disinformation.

But in order to be able to discern truth from fiction ALL information needs to be on the table, not only what the MSM wants on the table.

43 posted on 07/21/2012 9:59:34 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: TomGuy

One thing to keep in mind is because Holmes is alive and there is going to be a court case, you’re going to have to wait much, much, much longer for any “manifestos” etc. than you would in the usual situation where these guys are dead.

Of course, nitwits will blame it on a “cover-up.”


44 posted on 07/21/2012 10:01:13 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity
So what does a perp have to do to make something terrorist-related, issue a press release stating so?

It does make one wonder.

Terrorism - from terror: instilling fear, creating panic, threatening bodily harm.


45 posted on 07/21/2012 10:04:14 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Lazamataz

I agree; I am so sick and tired of our side not fighting back. Total wussies. It’s time the gloves come off and we fire back with maximum fire power.


46 posted on 07/21/2012 10:06:04 AM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: ssaftler

Folks, hang on to your hats!!! This gent, James E. Holmes spent a ton of money in a very short time period buying about $6000.00 of firearms and SWAT dressing attire, including a gas mask. This loser, IMHO, never had such cash at hand!!!

I suspect that an outside source funded his tragedy. It could have been the “Occupy Wall Street” Obama nutcases or, even Obama’s “Muslim Brotherhood”, etc.!!! Keep an open mind, this act was very carefully planned, thought out and then executed professionally and in effective destruction capacity. Much is yet to be revealed about this supposed “Lone Wolf” who is not so “Lone” as he appears.


47 posted on 07/21/2012 10:07:42 AM PDT by JLAGRAYFOX (My only objective is defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!)
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To: securityMama

Is is reasonable to assume that since we have not heard the political affiliation of his mother, father, or himself, that we can conclude that his is a leftist democrat? If any of them were right leaning the drivebys would have seized on it and put it up front for all to see. Therefore I conclude he is a democrat, left leaning, proObamaite. Is that going too far?


48 posted on 07/21/2012 10:08:23 AM PDT by Texas Songwriter (Ia)
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To: Erik Latranyi

LOOK QUICKLY BEFORE THEY TAKE IT DOWN!!!!!

http://occupywallst.org/forum/aurora-shooting/

1 points by ImARandomGuy (0) 0 minutes ago
I have it on good authority that Eric Latranyi from Free Republic likes to strangle kittens.

What evidence do you have that you don’t like to strangle kittens? This is pretty incontrovertible proof, don’t you think.


49 posted on 07/21/2012 10:08:40 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: skeeter

The halcyon days of “discerning truth” are over, unfortunately. I am all for the victory of truth, but if we allow that to rule our political activities it will lead to destruction in the terrestrial realm. Maybe we should give up on the terrestrial realm and abandon politics altogether, but we should not anymore hold out hope that the American population is capable of truth discernment.


50 posted on 07/21/2012 10:11:33 AM PDT by dinoparty
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