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Hubble spots spiral galaxy that shouldn't exist
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 18, 2012, 1:05 p.m. | Thomas H. Maugh II

Posted on 07/18/2012 5:08:07 PM PDT by Olog-hai

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To: Lancey Howard

It’s awesome to think about isn’t it? Imagine if the inhabitants of a planet 65 million light years away could look at earth. They’d see a planet inhabited by dinosaurs. I read the Asimov piece you linked to. It was fascinating.


41 posted on 07/19/2012 1:48:30 PM PDT by 762X51
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To: Olog-hai
"The fact that this galaxy exists is astounding," Law said. "Current wisdom holds that such grand design spiral galaxies didn't exist at such an early time in the history of the universe."

That's because it's not the early history of the universe.

The Electric Universe Theory Wiki

42 posted on 07/19/2012 2:02:43 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Olog-hai

Hmmm, I wonder how far off a current scientific theory needs to be that an entire observed galaxy doesn’t fit into it?


43 posted on 07/19/2012 2:05:18 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: vpintheak

Oppositions of science falsely so-called. Today’s academia is polluted with them . . .


44 posted on 07/19/2012 2:09:15 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: conservative sympathizer

The atheistic scientists believed the universe was eternal before the Big Bang theory (proposed by a theologian) was demonstrated to be practical via the red shift in stars (expanding universe).


45 posted on 07/19/2012 2:12:36 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: 762X51

Here’s another Asimov short story I always loved.
It’s a quick read. Enjoy.

http://www.multivax.com/last_question.html


46 posted on 07/19/2012 3:08:29 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Great story!


47 posted on 07/19/2012 4:02:34 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Olog-hai.


48 posted on 07/19/2012 7:38:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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Thanks Olog-hai. And, uh, whoops! [blush]

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49 posted on 07/19/2012 7:41:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Lancey Howard
I seem to recall that everything on earth is moving in several directions at varying speeds, and that these total to something in the neighborhood of 500,000 miles per hour or second? If something were brought abruptly to an inertial stop (it's vectors of motion were all brought to zero), it would leave our presence at something like 500,000 MPH or MPS ... or, actually, we would leave it at that rate, for ‘it’ would be motionless relative to the rest of the universe in which it was moving prior to be stopped. But that was a good tale, Mr. Asimov ...
50 posted on 07/19/2012 8:20:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: conservative sympathizer

You’ll have to define wht you mean by ‘eternal’ before further discussion will make sense.


51 posted on 07/19/2012 8:22:56 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: conservative sympathizer

You’ll have to define what you mean by ‘eternal’ before further discussion will make sense.


52 posted on 07/19/2012 8:23:05 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: BlessedMom92

Atheism is an ‘ego snake’ which has captured it’s tail, making it a closed loop.


53 posted on 07/19/2012 8:25:48 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Jerry Attrick

It’s really very simple.

We believe in God, they believe in Coincidence.

Intelligent Design versus a Lottery Ticket.


54 posted on 07/19/2012 8:31:15 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Confucius say, short note better than long memory....)
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To: MHGinTN; 762X51

I first read that Asimov story, ‘The Billiard Ball’, back in the late ‘60s. It was in a book of Asimov short stories I got from the Science Fiction Book Club. Anyway, in the Forward to the book Asimov remarked that he originally wanted to title the story, ‘Dirty Pool’, but decided that would be too tacky. I think it would have been a perfect title.


55 posted on 07/19/2012 8:36:34 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Indeed, I shall hereafter remember the story as ‘Dirty Pool’.


56 posted on 07/19/2012 8:38:21 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Olog-hai

Everything espoused by astronamers is based on a speculative evolved universe. They generally do not understand, “In the beginning God...”

And the media pushers who write this stuff are likely even worse.

One thing I believe...even with the ‘benefit’ of Hubble, we do not know where ‘we’, the earth, solar system and milky way are in God’s scheme of things.


57 posted on 07/19/2012 8:47:59 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders.)
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To: Olog-hai

Scientists make a living giving their opinion; there is nothing more. New galaxy that shouldn’t exist? “Oh, neat. That’s not supposed to exist. I bet it formed, uh, about, uh ten million years ago. Yeah.” They just throw out a number with further establishing the facts. Typical.


58 posted on 07/19/2012 9:06:43 PM PDT by joelackey92
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To: Olog-hai; stylecouncilor; windcliff
From "Science Daily", 7/18...

"We want to take pictures of this galaxy at other wavelengths," Shapley said. "That will tell us what type of stars are in every location in the galaxy. We want to map the mixture of stars and gas in BX442."

My bet is that it will contain mainly first generation stars, therefor ruling out most heavier element nucleosynthesis and thus anything more advanced than the "simplest" life forms. Yet, we know well by our own experience what even simple life can yet produce, even in a future there we are not yet able to see, even here.

How any of this though rules out an appreciation of God though, as noted by some on this thread, is what really leaves me mystified. I think God is flattered that we should show an interest in His universe and that we would want to know and understand as much as we may.

Teach me thy way, O LORD; I will walk in thy truth: unite my heart to fear thy name. --Psalm 86:11

59 posted on 07/19/2012 9:34:50 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: Lancey Howard
lol. TYVM for a VERY entertaining read :)
60 posted on 07/19/2012 11:03:20 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ("We have prepared for the unbeliever, whips and chains and blazing fires!" Koran Sura 76:4)
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