Posted on 04/16/2012 8:13:34 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows
If the FBI has started teaching to shoot at the hip, then it would mean the weenies in the administration don’t want bad guys to be hurt very badly.
IF shooting him in the torso doesn’t work, THEN he may be wearing body armor. IF he is, THEN aiming for the pelvis makes sense. But aiming there is NOT a good way to stop a gunfight with someone who is not wearing body armor.
Good discussion here:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=392507
Long before Dirty Harry. Westerns are full of gunshot victims flying through the air.
And never, never forget. One Jedi armed with a light saber can decimate an entire army of Battle Droids.
“Today, they bleed a couple gallons.”
Have you watched Alcatraz? Not only do they bleed gallons ... it squirts out of them like gushers when a bullet penetrates the skin.
Since the Mythbusters did their show on the subject, I tried to watch old cop shows and westerns (Rawhide, Gunsmoke, Have Gun Will Travel, etc) to see the reactions of the baddies when they got shot. Most just fell where they were when they got plugged. I can’t recall seeing any getting blown back 10-20 feet. I like to watch old westerns on Encore, and most of the bad guys might do a little grimacing, but most just dropped when shot. The Italian westerns of the sixties and Sam Peckinpaugh started exaggerating the special effects, and now it seems every bad guy has to be blown back many feet when they get shot.
Watch the movie "Shane" (1953). Jack Palance shoots a guy with a six-shooter and throws him back 10 feet into the mud. I always figured that one scene started the whole trend.
The important question: Did you get any geese??
If you did, how far up were they?
Oh yea...bad thing about the shoulder lol... hope it healed fast. :P
Obviously cartridges breed in the magazine.
You’re added.
Ah yes, good work. One of my favorite movies. Elisha Cook gets shot down by Jack Palance. I'll have to check that one out.
I stand corrected. I guess the movie industry had more money for special effects in those days than tv.
Well, I’ll put it this way. One of the guys was a former game warden when he was in Alaska. We were all illegal on the trip home, but he knew how to hide the fresh meat in his pickup in case we got stopped. Most of the birds were about 25 yards or lower. Easy pickings.
The only thing worth watching is the blonde firing the .45ACP.
I’ll have to pass info along to my brother. We noticed that his place is a migratory path and he had his shotgun ready most of the time this past year. I think he got off one shot but don’t think he was using the same gauge or shot as you. I really want to try wild geese.
Definitely the older, the better. The newer the movie/show, the more the unrealistic bullet hit. Hollywood thinks we're all dumb. Other irritants from them .... a car getting airborn after hitting another head on; cars exploding into a humongous fireball after being shot; people being able to grab small ledges after falling off a building (another Mythbusters bust); .......
With respect, I doubt it had or has anything with revealing the profile of the weapon - it’s more “stylin”. It is also ridiculously inaccurate. Pablo and Julio can hold their KelTecs sidways and miss - I’ll use the sights on my S&W and hit.
Ayoob makes a lot of sense, except he is utterly and totally ate up with lawyer-proofing. He routinely crows about removing the single action capability of double action revolvers (akin to emasculating). Everything hes about is geared toward litigation. I, for one, will ALWAYS thumb-cock my DA revolver if given the opportunity I am perfectly capable of accurate DA fire, BUT 1 gas checked 158 grain LSWHP +P from my J Frame is more effective when placed in a crack-heads earhole than elsewhere.
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