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Weekly Gardening Thread (Soil Structure Part 1) Vol. 9, March 2, 2012
Friday, March 2, 2012 | JustaDumbBlonde

Posted on 03/02/2012 8:10:56 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde

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To: JustaDumbBlonde
What is the advantage of turning every few days?

It breaks down much faster. I try to turn my compost every two weeks. I'll be turning both piles today.

21 posted on 03/02/2012 8:54:05 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican

Does “open air” compost bring critters though? How much water do you add?

Thanks for the reply!


22 posted on 03/02/2012 9:03:33 AM PST by MiddleEarth (With hope or without hope we'll follow the trail of our enemies. Woe to them, if we prove the faster)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Good info.

Don’t the kitchen scraps bring mice and flies etc? That’s my main hesitation with just an open pile on the ground.


23 posted on 03/02/2012 9:07:20 AM PST by MiddleEarth (With hope or without hope we'll follow the trail of our enemies. Woe to them, if we prove the faster)
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To: MiddleEarth

No critters in my open compost piles - just worms.

I bury the kitchen scraps - and chop into smaller bits to help it compost faster.

Wetter is better - downright soggy.


24 posted on 03/02/2012 9:12:18 AM PST by ImProudToBeAnAmerican
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

How far down do the leaves need to be broken? I will be planting my first vegetable garden this year. I found several garbage cans full of leaves on the side of our house.We weren’t even thinking about mulch so they just sat there over the winter. Mostly dry on top with more wet leaves at the bottom. None were really broken down except at the very bottom. (They all had drain holes except one. That one was very rotty and bad smelling, probably not usable)

Can you just till in the leaves if they aren’t broken down yet, or will that cause problems?


25 posted on 03/02/2012 9:19:39 AM PST by boxlunch
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To: MiddleEarth
Well, yes, an open compost pile will attract rodents and flies. Possums, racoons and birds too. I didn't even think about that because there are not enough cats roaming the earth to kill all of the mice and rats that live around our homestead. The flies aren't a consideration since the heap is so far from the house that they are not even noticed (but really I've never seen that many flies, even with fresh stuff in the pile).

A drum bin of some sort will probably suit your needs much better.

26 posted on 03/02/2012 9:22:19 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Please add me to your list.

I had my front lawn dug up recently to replace a sewer pipe, and now need to plant grass there. I plan to work in some compost (old leaves from 1-2 years ago), then cover with fertilizer for new lawns, then seed.

Any comments?
Thanks


27 posted on 03/02/2012 9:25:30 AM PST by Doneel
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

We had a bit of hail here in Central Missouri this morning. Fortunately it was small so no damage was done.

I had intentions of hauling composted horse manure in over the weekend but the rain has put the kabosh to that.

My orchard trees are about to start blooming. It’s too early and the blossoms are sure to be frozen.


28 posted on 03/02/2012 9:28:24 AM PST by Augie
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To: ImProudToBeAnAmerican; MiddleEarth
I've got to disagree with the 'downright soggy' portion of that advice. The bacteria and other critters that are responsible for the breakdown in a compost pile are aerobic creatures. Air flow in the pile is essential or the aerobic critters will die.

Everything I've read indicates that a compost pile should be moist, but that any excess water should be able to drain away. Don't put your compost material in the lowest spot of the yard.

If rain is not providing your compost pile with enough moisture, you will need to add some water yourself. Collecting rainwater is a good practice, because rain is generally close to pH neutral and has no added flouride or other chemicals.

I do not add additional moisture to my heap unless there is an extended drought. Simple reason is that I don't have time to worry about it. I'll use it when it breaks down, but I'm not really helping the process along as much as many folks will.

29 posted on 03/02/2012 9:34:23 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Did someone say Compost?

Your going to have rodents but you'll learn to deal with them. The biggest shock I ever received was when I lifted the plywood cover and a Garter snake was smiling back at me...

30 posted on 03/02/2012 9:47:09 AM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

A good working temperature for your active compost pile...

31 posted on 03/02/2012 10:00:55 AM PST by tubebender (I always wanted to be somebody, but now I realize I should have been more specific.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; call meVeronica

Bump & can you add me to the ping list please


32 posted on 03/02/2012 10:05:34 AM PST by call meVeronica
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To: JustaDumbBlonde; All
I ran into this article/chart on edible flowers the other day. It is really extensive and I thought I would share it. I will definitely be making sure that I will have some 'edible flowers' in my garden this spring/summer.

Edible Flowers

33 posted on 03/02/2012 10:15:21 AM PST by MissMagnolia (Being powerful is like being a lady. If you have to tell people you are, you aren't. (M.Thatcher))
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Since my tomatoes were in containers, I was able to bring them inside a few times this winter as the temps plunged into the lower 40s, so I've been able to get a constant production for months. The second time I brought them in, instead of just "balancing" them on the ledge between the living room and kitchen, I grabbed a couple pieces of an old dock gate out of the back of the truck and with a floor flange and a piece of 3/4" pipe I built a stand which worked out great.

But then at Lowes I found these planters designed to sit on a fence (or perhaps a ledge between two rooms). I've got plenty of sunny space on the dock, several feet from the existing hydroponics, so I ran another line and planted some tomatoes. I think this is going to work out well, especially in the winter.

The tomato on the right in the second picture is actually a decent size chunk I found on my living room floor one cold winter morning, BTW.

34 posted on 03/02/2012 10:27:09 AM PST by Darth Reardon (No offense to drunken sailors)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
Had to put off ordering my seeds and trees until my tax refund gets here. My budget suddenly got tighter, and it was either wait 3 weeks, or cut out 90% of my order, so I'm waiting. The refund should be here soon, though.

My order this year is going to be a combination of market crops and prepper crops. Things like apples, cucumbers, kiwi, and peppers for market, and things like witch hazel, hulless oats, and several varieties of beans for stocking up. I might not plant them all this year, in fact I don't have room yet for everything on the prepping side of the list, but I want to get the trees planted and have the seeds on hand just in case. I've already got a big box full of seeds, including several I saved from last year. There was something satisfying about watching my piles of squash and beans grow last fall.

There's a shop that buys produce from local gardeners to resell, so I won't have to worry about actually running a produce stand. Last year, they were surprisingly short on cucumbers and zucchini.

35 posted on 03/02/2012 10:42:54 AM PST by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde
What is the advantage of turning every few days?

Exercise? [grin]

36 posted on 03/02/2012 10:44:04 AM PST by Petruchio (I Think . . . Therefor I FReep.)
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To: Doneel; call meVeronica; Big Horn
Welcome!!!

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37 posted on 03/02/2012 10:53:32 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies ... plan it.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

When we bought this place 20 years ago, the garden was as hard as concrete. My husband had a dickens of a time plowing it. The old garden fence had been removed, and wouldn’t you know it, the soil on the other side of the fence was a beautiful rich black and extremely easy to work. The previous owner had thrown scraps, trimmings, and weeds outside the garden. The only fertilizer he used was chemical because he didn’t want weeds.

My husband spent years adding clippings and dried manure from the barn, and plowing it into the soil. No more chemicals have been added, no pesticides. He spends endless time, squishing bugs by hand. Yuck! But it certainly has paid off.


38 posted on 03/02/2012 11:02:25 AM PST by Library Lady
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To: Darth Reardon

I LOVE the concept of those planters. I’m going to check my local Lowe’s to see if they have them. They would be perfect on my deck!


39 posted on 03/02/2012 11:09:54 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

“The bacteria and other critters that are responsible for the breakdown in a compost pile are aerobic creatures. Air flow in the pile is essential or the aerobic critters will die.”

That right there is the reason to turn the compost pile.

I have read that some people use PVC pipe drilled with many holes placed into the middle of the pile with the open ends sticking out of the sides in an attempt to get O2 into the pile.


40 posted on 03/02/2012 11:31:57 AM PST by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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