Posted on 04/08/2011 7:18:34 PM PDT by djf
The Federal Bureau of Investigation has this last week opened what it calls "the vault", a collection of thousands of documents and memos that have been unclassified.
One of those memos confirms the crash at Roswell.
It is a PDF file, and the FBI server is running slow, so I will transpose part of it here:
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The following information was furnished to SA
An investigator for the Air Force stated that three so-called flying saucers hed been recovered in New Mexico. They were described as being circular in shape with raised centers, approximately 50 feet in diameter. Each one was occupied by three bodies of human shape but only 3 feet tall, dressed in metallic cloth of a very fine texture. Each body was bandaged in a manner similar to the blackout suits used by speed flyers and test pilots.
According to Mr. (redacted), informant, the saucers were found in New Mexico due to the fact that the Government has a very high powered radar set-up in that area and it is believed the radar interferes with the controling mechanism of the saucers.
No further evaluation was attempted by SA (redacted) concerning the above.
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But I have never seen any hard-core proof. I think this is dam close.
Now there are people on the other side of the picture who would not believe in aliens if an alien raped their goat and they had vids of the encounter... something about the human mind, where if a possible fact doesn’t fit someones philosophy, they will believe in anything and everything else to avoid admitting it is true.
I’m not dinging anybody with that statement, it’s just the way it is.
Absolutely indeed.
And, it’s silly to put this in chat when it properly belongs in BREAKING NEWS. Sometimes biases have more weight even here, over truth.
LOL.
Quality scientist Jacques Vallee, after long and extensive research, is convinced they are evil critters from a spiritual dimension.
The world wide illegal drug trade also goes to fund such projects.
It was originally posted to Breaking News.
i SUSPECTED as much.
From FR’s beginning . . . the biases at the top were intensely hostile to such topics. Folks posting such things were considered liberal trolls deliberately trying to tarnish FR’s credibility and destroy our conservative impact with the public etc. etc. etc.
There’s still a lot of that sentiment at the top. Sadly.
I sometimes put it that they wouldn’t believe it until a UFO landed in their laps and castrated them . . . and even then they’d blame it on giant toilet crabs.
Archiving your post.
I was being sarcastic and going along with the spelling of “huge” that some FReepers use when I said “hugh”.
As in “series” for serious. LOL
You know it's a well known common courtesy to ping a Freeper to the post when you a talking about him.
He used to not be overly eager to have his screen name known.
Now, I avoid pinging him just to avoid bothering him. IIRC, he’s in his mid or late 70’s.
He’s disabled and needs to conserve his priorities for more important things than reading my posts about him that say the same things he’s read dozens of times from me.
However, this version seems more convincing yet very hard to read
You think it's possible that a US radar from the 50's was able to knock down an alien spacecraft?
You think they can travel faster than light but can't combat radar?
I don’t need the FBI stuff to convince me of anything
Sounds more like disinformation to me, if anything. It's more likely this document was released because it's so obviously silly that it would have the exact reaction it's having. Utter disbelief.
Much more likely than we shot down UFO's with radar technology from the 50's.
Yep. Jacques is a very trustworthy source for this subject.
So was I! Whenever I see “Hugh and Series” I always chime in with “mute”, another common mistake, and “irrevalunt”, which is community organizer speak!
I think your assumptions are clouding your assessment, again.
There are a small minority of sources conjecturing that the famous Southwestern thunder storms and lightening were responsible.
Most sources assert that it evidently was the radar . . . not that the critters COULD NOT defend against it—ONCE THEY WERE AWARE of it. Purportedly, they just didn’t expect it—at least not at those power levels.
There is the isolated source that claims that the critters or powers that be or some such deliberately sacrificed the crewmen in a deliberate crash for complex deception reasons.
One reason the radar has more credibility is that the Aztec crash of a craft about 100’ in diameter also reportedly made a fairly controlled crash landing . . . again, due to unexpectedly high powered radar units in the area—West of Los Alamos.
The light years thing is purportedly laughable to the critters. There are reportedly 3-4 DIFFERENT means of jumping rather quickly between extremely distant points in our space/time continuum.
Then there’s the whole persistent contention that they don’t come from other planets at all—but from a ‘spiritual’ dimension.
Interestingly Genesis indicates God was partly angry with the critters for giving war making technologies to man, in addition to their bedding earth women. They are at both again.
How much of him have you read. I used to be wary of him.
I think he was the model of the French scientist in CLOSE ENCOUNTERS.
Only when corroborated by several other sources . . . in this case, 100’s of other sources.
INDEED.
I think, after following the agenda and mentality of the New Ager globalists involved in the New World Order, all your points of how they will use a myth of alien superior intellegence and technology to discredit the existence of God is absolutely correct. They will make the aliens into man’s creator and gods.
There is strong fascist thread running through activist New Agers that calls to the elimination of Christian and Jewish “haters” (never Islam) whose “low consciousness” pollutes the planet and utopian progress. They believe there will be a global government of Utopia when the real gods arrive - the aliens. The doctrines of environmentalism plays a big role in shaping the deception for the New Age Movement - the religion of the anti-Christ.
I think the alien ones New Agers worship and adore are demons and fallen angels. Many of the globalists are documented to be outright luciferians. We can see how the aliens’ “superior” reproductive technology (genetic engineering) worked out in the days of Noah. (Christians should be well versed in the creatures created in the Times of Noah time as it is already happening. Alien abductions and Darpa are two of it’s operations.) I think these fallen angels hate God and hate His creation and especially His human beings. The distain for human life runs deep the new age globalist movement. That is born of the doctrines of environmentalism and abortion. Lucifer names man guilty and unworthy of existence. So do the globalists.
Humans are seen as an infestation of the planet that must be exterminated and birth controlled by the new keepers of man. Globalists have set ideal population goals anywhere from from 200-500 million people and their agenda calls for total control over those humans. The rest are slated to die by whaterver means necessary to reach the glorious ends. Agenda 21 is, to me, a plan for caging those humans into controlled and the least desirable places on earth.
I think the current events of Obama and Soros destabilizing the Middle East is for the purpose of filling the above agenda. Only God knows if they are useful idiots or if they know what they are ushering in. Many of the New Agers are just stupid, magical thinkers who have gotten themselves hooked into the inspirations delivered by the Liar. They don’t have a clue of what they are doing. Many Christians today have been converted to New Age falsehoods and the worship of scientific “truth” and will easily fall for the wrong side of the deception. They will hate “religous” Christians and that ground is strong today.
The ground has been laid to demand everyone except the aliens as the earth’s superior intellegence and Creator with the battle Liberals waged against the freedom to challenge the theory evolution. It is clear that many athiests hold a murderous hatred and intolerance for any scientist who questions evolution. That is the spirit of the end times which will murder Christians who deny the “science” and “truth” that aliens are our creator.
I don’t know about the “mark of the beast” nor am I certain that rapture will happen as it conflicts with the persecution and mass murder of Christians foretold in the End Times scriptures. How can Christians be both raptured out and murdered by the anti-Christ at the same time? It is a puzzle piece I just can not understand. Weak Christians (the non-elect) will easily be taken over by the strength of the deception and strong Christians, which are those connected to the direction of God, will not. Someone is going to get beheaded/sacrificed by the anti-Christ for their refusal to deny God and it won’t be weak Christians.
The mark of the beast, I think, will have to do with taking an oath of allegence to the New World Order and it’s ruler, the anti-Christ as our god. The mark that one has taken that oath will be placed on the hand or the forward and anyone who does not have the mark will not be able to trade and will be killed. So I think if someone took a chip without the oath today, it would not be the mark. There will be a new tagging system when the Beast arrives and it will involve an oath of accepting the ‘science’ of the alien creators. It might not be a physical mark; rather a mystical marking of one’s soul allegience to the anti-Christ.
Christians are playing the part of Job in the End Times prophecy. They are being put into the middle of a spiritual war that will require them to keep their faith in a situation of horrible temptation and persecution - suffering at the hands of Lucifer.
I never much liked that story of Job - God permiting Lucifer to take a wack at one of his loyal servants to prove to Lucifer that faith in God is more powerful than Lucifer’s arsenal of temptation. God agreed to permit Lucifer to attack and make Job suffer so Lucifer could arrive at the knowledge God had of the power of fath through Job. God did this knowing Lucifer would deny the evidence that Job’s faith was stronger than him and his assault.
Well, maybe in the scheme of war this helped demonstrate the power of God within human creation to Lucifer, but the truth is God let one of His own be attacked to show Satan that he is wrong. That pisses me off. Lucifer is an committed evil idiot. Why prove anything to an evil idiot? Why not just wack his ignorant ass. He’s a cancer on humanity’s ass. Why use humans, whom God loves, as pawns in this conflict with Licifer - the ultimate Ass of creation?
My questions are not higher than my trust in God. But when I get to heaven and if I am afforded the honor of speaking with Jesus, He has some splaining to do to for a loyal servent of His on earth. I wake up in the morning with these words on my lips “Jesus, please, deliver us (humanity) from evil.” That is because I see the nightmare that is unfolding. I know the prophecy in the Bible will ultimately happen in the scheme of things (God will prevail) but many souls will be lost to the deception of Lucifer and that breaks my heart so I am feeling unhappy about the whole dang plan. Many of Christ’s souls will suffer. Lucifer’s free will does not justify it to me.
After all that blabbing, I am sure you are sorry you asked, Quix. LOL
I haven't actually read anything of his but have some acquaintances who say he is credible. And of course he was one of the speakers at the Global Competitive Forum in Riyadh back in January of this year.
I heard that the nose radar in the old P-3s could 'cook' the transistor radios in the BX...(from former aircrew).
Entirely possible the big ground based sets of the day could disrupt flight systems.
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