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Proving the republician party was racist from the beginning. /s
1 posted on 03/05/2011 4:17:49 PM PST by FatherofFive
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To: FatherofFive

The commie libs aren’t going to quit until ALL of America’s history is dead and buried.


2 posted on 03/05/2011 4:19:31 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Just say NO to union greed!)
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To: FatherofFive

“For the sake of your race, you should sacrifice something of your present comfort for the purpose of being as grand in that respect as the white people,” Lincoln said, promoting his idea of colonization: resettling blacks in foreign countries on the belief that whites and blacks could not coexist in the same nation.”

We cannot know the tension, pressures, and political leanings of that time, except by secondary sources. Perhaps Abe was just being honest.


3 posted on 03/05/2011 4:20:21 PM PST by choctaw man (Good ole Andrew Jackson, or You're the Reason God Made Oklahoma...)
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To: FatherofFive

His generals foresaw problems as freed slaves started leaving the farms/plantations and following the Northern armies; they were unable to provide for them while conducting the war (sound familiar?).


4 posted on 03/05/2011 4:23:00 PM PST by kearnyirish2
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To: FatherofFive

They also said he was gay because he slept in the same bed with a friend. Those lib so-called historians didn’t realize that that was what they did back then due to accommodation space in houses.


5 posted on 03/05/2011 4:23:05 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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The comments weren’t at all surprising for the time and probably weren’t seen as racist by anyone.

Rather prophetic really. He seemed to realize that blacks would become a second class of citizen held in continuous bondage by other means. Listening to democrats today and its obvious that they feel a certain “ownership” of the black vote.


6 posted on 03/05/2011 4:23:42 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: FatherofFive
Also on that page: "why you shouldn't have kids" by Time magazine (Saudi owned)
7 posted on 03/05/2011 4:24:40 PM PST by Christian Engineer Mass (25ish Cambridge MA grad student. Many younger conservative Christians out there? __ Click my name)
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So, it's been 150 years, how are we doing, as opposed to what if the freemen took Lincoln's advice?

What if we had a "Liberia" in central America where ambitious Blacks from America had set up their own state, and had had generations to develop a community free of racial obstacles?

8 posted on 03/05/2011 4:25:18 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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The commie media rewriting history. Nothing here.


12 posted on 03/05/2011 4:28:40 PM PST by nhwingut (Palin '12... Accept No Other)
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It's nice that the AP doesn't feature the title, Colonization After Emancipation, until the fourth paragraph. People here who think that demeaning Lincoln is demeaning American History need to ask themselves what happened to the government bequeathed to us by Jefferson and Madison. I wondered about this some 30+ years ago, and learned that everything I was taught in high school wasn't all there was to learn.

ML/NJ

13 posted on 03/05/2011 4:29:49 PM PST by ml/nj
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Lincoln on Blacks:

"I will say then that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of bringing about in any way the social and po- litical equality of the white and black races; that I am not, nor ever have been, in favor of making voters or jurors of negroes, nor of qualifying them to hold office, nor to intermarry with white people; and I will say in addition to this that there is a physical difference be- tween the white and black races which I believe will forever forbid the two races living together on terms of social and political equality. And inasmuch as they cannot so live, while they do remain together there must be the position of superior and inferior, and I, as much as any other man, am in favor of having the superior position assigned to the white race."

16 posted on 03/05/2011 4:32:08 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!!!)
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Lincoln either presided over an amry that killed hundreds of thousands of his own countrymen, or he invaded a soveriegn nation after a small skirmish in one of that nation’s ports.

3 cheers for Lincoln.


17 posted on 03/05/2011 4:35:22 PM PST by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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Lincoln was a blatant racist.
Read his own words in the :
The Lincoln-Douglas Debates Fourth Joint Debate Charleston, September 18, 1858 Mr. Lincoln’s Speech - tom
19 posted on 03/05/2011 4:36:27 PM PST by Capt. Tom
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I don’t see this as “new light.” Anyone who has ever read a biography of Lincoln has heard this before. People keep wanting to view our 18th- and 19th-century forbears through a 21st-century lens.


20 posted on 03/05/2011 4:36:45 PM PST by Choose Ye This Day ("As government expands, liberty contracts." -- Ronald Reagan)
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Lincoln:

"I tell [Douglas] very frankly that I am not in favor of negro citizenship."

Lincoln - douglas debates

21 posted on 03/05/2011 4:36:48 PM PST by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis (Want to make $$$? It's easy! Use FR to pimp your blog!!!)
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MLK day just isn't enough is it.

What is enough to make it fair?

25 posted on 03/05/2011 4:39:31 PM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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Oh boy! We haven’t had a good FR Civil War dustup for a while. This should be good.

The south has “Lost Causers,” the north has “Lincoln Sainthood.” He did not fight the Civil War to free the slaves. The Emancipation Proclamation was a military document, intended to spur insurrection in the south and the south alone, as it did not free slaves in States outside the Confederacy. Lincoln held blacks to be inferior to whites. He was not at all alone in this belief, particularly among his Union compatriots, contrary to the popular public school mythology that places this belief solely at the feet of southerners.

Tell the true history, I say. All of it. Don’t be afraid of it. The States that comprised the former Confederacy believed themselves to possess a Constitutional right to dissolve their association with other States, for any reason. So did several others, notably in New England, that threatened secession several decades prior.

Regarding the speech to free blacks in the excerpt, where does anybody think Liberia came from, and how do they believe Liberia to have been established?


27 posted on 03/05/2011 4:40:06 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Oh noes! And this changes what? (Not asking you FOF, just generally.)

When are people going to wake up and realize that it’s the year 2011? Now they’re going back to find racists? Shall we dig him up and question him? Letterman apology show? Rev. Al and Jackson going to ‘have a talk’ with him through seance? Geez. I’m betting that most of the Northern army had the same thoughts.


28 posted on 03/05/2011 4:42:32 PM PST by ReneeLynn (Socialism is SO yesterday. Fascism, it's the new black. Mmm mmm mmm...)
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Proving the republician party was racist from the beginning. /s

Of course the Democrats (which included ALL of the Confederacy) of the time were arguing blacks were subhuman--and they were doing them a favor to enslave them...

29 posted on 03/05/2011 4:43:53 PM PST by AnalogReigns
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Abe Lincoln was the first anti-slavery President....the previous ones were either slaveholders themselves, or strongly allowed slavery to keep Southern Democrats pacified.

Two events riled anti-slavery forces in America: 1) The Kansas-Nebraska Act, which negated the Compromise of 1820 and said that slavery could be wherever the State wanted it, rather than keeping it below a certain latitude (Mason-Dixon Line?). This caused violent men from both sides to fight in Kansas and Nebraska. The belief was that slavery, far from slowly dying out, would flourish in new Southern States (Cuba and Northern Mexico was seriously considered for annexation to the US)....for example, today Migrant workers work the orchards in florida and california....if the Kansas-Nebraska Act were present today, you might see slaves working those field today.

2)The publication of Uncle Tom's Cabin. This book stoked the abolitionist fires in the North, and a savage reaction in the South.

I honestly don't know how we could've avoided a Civil War. Southern Democrat slaveholders were too entrenched in their way of life, while northern Republican abolitionists were too angered by the idea of one man owning another.

As for "States Rights" and seceding because of economic issues, why didn't the Midwestern States secede as well (they were under the same restrictions Southern states were), and why was slavery forbidden to be outlawed in the Confederate Constitution?

30 posted on 03/05/2011 4:44:50 PM PST by MuttTheHoople (Democrats- Forgetting 9/11 since 9/12/01)
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With all due respect to you for your post I am weary of racial discussions.

Racial discrimination has become the reason for much bad behavior and I’m tired of it,really tired. The word “racist” has lost all meaning it is so overused.

Who cares if Lincoln was racist? That was approximately 150 years ago.


31 posted on 03/05/2011 4:46:26 PM PST by Mears
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