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Divers find shipwreck of doomed sailor who inspired classic tale of Moby Dick off coast of Hawaii
UK Daily Mail / various ^
| February 11, 2011
Posted on 02/11/2011 11:50:12 AM PST by Stoat
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To: OldDeckHand
I see it was written in the UK. Must have lost something when translated into English.
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posted on
02/11/2011 12:33:39 PM PST
by
oh8eleven
(RVN '67-'68)
To: Stoat
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posted on
02/11/2011 12:45:54 PM PST
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
To: BenLurkin; Stoat; Mr. Lucky
Sounds like hes referring to folks like Old Ben who sometimes let the Classics Illustrated take the place of actually reading the book.You make it sound like its a bad thing... I'm with "Old Ben" on this one - I read many a novel (of the abridged illustrated variety) in my youth...
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posted on
02/11/2011 12:53:45 PM PST
by
El Cid
(Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
To: Stoat
Let me try to rewrite the headline:
19th century shipwreck found. Captain of ship is associated with Moby Dick legend.
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posted on
02/11/2011 12:55:01 PM PST
by
Drawsing
(The fool shows his annoyance at once. The prudent man overlooks an insult. (Proverbs 12:16))
To: Stoat
Amazing find. Thanks for posting.
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posted on
02/11/2011 12:58:16 PM PST
by
Liberty Valance
(Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
To: Liberty Valance
Amazing find. Thanks for posting.
I'm delighted that you've found it to be worthwhile. You're quite welcome, and thank you for your kind words :-)
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posted on
02/11/2011 1:05:15 PM PST
by
Stoat
(If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
To: Stoat
I think they are implying that you have strayed into the weeds of misplaced modifiers. If you move “off the coast of Hawaii” to a position after “find,” you’ll be fine. Moby Dick reliably cannot be placed off the coast of Hawaii. sd (recovering English teacher)
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posted on
02/11/2011 1:20:54 PM PST
by
shotdog
(I love my country. It's our government I'm afraid of.)
To: Stoat
Wonder if Moby Dick just pushed this ship into the reef?
To: stormer
That’s nice to know. I just bought it a couple of weeks ago.
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posted on
02/11/2011 1:49:25 PM PST
by
BunnySlippers
(I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
To: shotdog
I think they are implying that you have strayed into the weeds of misplaced modifiers. If you move off the coast of Hawaii to a position after find, youll be fine. Moby Dick reliably cannot be placed off the coast of Hawaii. sd (recovering English teacher)
If that's true, then it's unfortunate that:
- It's apparently not understood that I didn't write the article or the title. An unnamed, breathtakingly inarticulate drone from the UK's Daily Mail did. Free Republic does not allow posters to modify article titles, and of course in this case anyone with the least bit of education would have rewritten not only the title but the entire article, if it were permitted here.
- Some here are apparently shocked at seeing grammar abuse that one might associate with a five year old appearing in a major newspaper, so much so that it has become a primary topic in this thread. Being a regular reader of the news from all over the world, I am not in the least bit shocked by it, numbed as I have become to the cataclysmic decline in English language proficiency here in the USA and abroad. Up until the mid part of the last century, newspapers were a place that one could go to in a quest to find the proper reference standards of English usage. This has not been the case for a VERY long time. I can usually find multiple errors in grammar, syntax and other parts of language on most any page of any newspaper, large or small, foreign and domestic. It is so bad that I have long ago gven up hope in finding excellence in the presentation of language in newspapers and I don't even consider that when posting....and I assume (wrongly, it seems) that others have become similarly disheartened. Althought it's nice to see so many FReepers taking an interest in the proper presentation of the English language, I confess to wishing that similar voices had been raised much more forcefully around fifty years ago. If I were to write an origial essay I would be looking forward to critques on grammar and style, but in the context of a news story published in a newspaper, it's not exactly something that I have any control over, unfortunately.
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posted on
02/11/2011 1:55:34 PM PST
by
Stoat
(If you want a vision of the future, imagine a Birkenstock stamping on a human face... forever)
To: Stoat
Any sign of Amelia Earhart?
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posted on
02/11/2011 1:59:07 PM PST
by
Tallguy
(Received a fine from the NFL for a helmet-to-helmet hit.)
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posted on
02/11/2011 2:57:24 PM PST
by
Eaker
(The problem with the internet, you're never sure the accuracy of the quotes. ~ Abraham Lincoln, 1865)
To: Stoat; nickcarraway; JoeProBono
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posted on
02/11/2011 5:50:02 PM PST
by
SunkenCiv
(The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
To: nomorelurker
The whale that sank the Essex didn’t push it into a reef. It stove the sides in open water.
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posted on
02/11/2011 7:25:57 PM PST
by
stormer
To: Stoat
Just finished a relatively new book including a recently discovered survivor journal about the Essex sinking, the sailors survival covering thousands of miles is a dorey, and the later sinking of that next Pollard whaleship. Was an excellent read.
From a reviewer: There have been many great stories of survival and tragedy on the seas, and this book is one of the best of them. At one time the story of the Whaleship Essex was well known in America, but gradually that story faded into memory. Nathaniel Philbrick brings that memory back to life again with his very well written book. The main events in this book took place in the time period of 1819-1821. The Essex was based on Nantucket Island, and in the first part of the book there is a very interesting history of Nantucket and the Whaling Trade. Enough information is given so that we understand the world that the men of the Essex lived in, and the ordeal that lay before them. The Essex was believed to be a lucky ship, but that reputation of good luck would soon be overwhelmed at sea. After several months at sea, the Essex was attacked and rammed by an eighty-five foot whale. It is fascinating to read about the attack of the giant whale on the ship, and to realize that the attacking whale was the actual basis for the whale in "Moby Dick". The Essex was severely damaged and in danger of sinking after the whale attack, and the crew faced the grim prospect of a desperate journey in open boats across the Pacific Ocean. The story of their battle for survival with little food or hope of rescue will grip your heart. Terrible choices of survival had to be made, and there are graphic accounts of starvation and cannibalism in the book. This is truly the story of a great tragedy at sea, but there is also the hope and endurance that can sometimes be found even in the darkest moments. There are moments of wonder with thoughts and descriptions of whales and the ever changing sea. I recommend this book to everyone that loves the history of the Sea, and the spirit of survival against all odds.
See at Amazon here.
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posted on
02/11/2011 8:32:28 PM PST
by
dickmc
To: SunkenCiv; Stoat; JoeProBono
Awesome story. Where is Queequeg?
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posted on
02/11/2011 9:07:53 PM PST
by
nickcarraway
(Obamacare should now be called Republicare.)
To: dickmc
Ordered. Thanks, “Moby” dickmc.
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posted on
02/11/2011 9:24:45 PM PST
by
nickcarraway
(Obamacare should now be called Republicare.)
To: nickcarraway
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posted on
02/12/2011 1:25:19 AM PST
by
JoeProBono
(A closed mouth gathers no feet - Visualize)
To: BunnySlippers
You won’t be disappointed...
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posted on
02/12/2011 10:31:10 AM PST
by
stormer
To: OldDeckHand
Many times writers get paid by the word. Lots of words mean more money...:O)
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