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Hell on wheels, but not for sale (Buick Grand National)
Los Angeles Times ^ | 12/10/2010 | Jerry Hirsch

Posted on 12/13/2010 1:06:27 PM PST by Responsibility2nd

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To: Mariner

And modern 600cc sport bikes have more HP than the same most powerful ‘muscle bikes’ of the mid 1980’s.

Fuel injection and engine management are the reason.


21 posted on 12/13/2010 1:19:26 PM PST by WOBBLY BOB ( "I don't want the majority if we don't stand for something"- Jim Demint)
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To: Mariner
Modern, fuel injected V6’s...even straight 6’s (BMW) put out more power than this.

Indeed they do. Some 4 bangers can match it too. But for 1987, this thing was pretty hot. A friend of mine had one and he put down many V8s in the quarter.

The feds also had a fleet of Regals. Bought them for their speed and agility. Again ... it may not stack up to modern cars, but we're talking about 1987 here.

22 posted on 12/13/2010 1:20:24 PM PST by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Responsibility2nd

My brother owns one of these...


23 posted on 12/13/2010 1:22:19 PM PST by GraceG
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To: cripplecreek

lol! I’m sure your referring to my multiple posts..


24 posted on 12/13/2010 1:25:31 PM PST by brivette
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To: Responsibility2nd

Sounds like Buick has borrowed the Hell on wheels name from the 2nd Armored Division. Patton was it’s commander at Ft. Benning, Ga., at which time he named it the Hell on Wheels division. It fought in North Africa, Sicily, and Europe. Called the “Benning to Berlin” division, because it was the first American division into Berlin.


25 posted on 12/13/2010 1:25:47 PM PST by sasportas
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To: Responsibility2nd

This is not your great-aunt’s Buick!

IIRC, it was quicker in a straight line than the Corvette of that era was.


26 posted on 12/13/2010 1:30:43 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Attn. GOP: Deliver the goods, or we'll do to you what we did to the Dems!)
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To: brivette

That’s four kinds of sad right there....


27 posted on 12/13/2010 1:31:01 PM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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To: Mariner
Modern, fuel injected V6’s...even straight 6’s (BMW) put out more power than this.

HP ratings are also computed differently back then..

Also for 2-3 grand (Or less) this GNX can be down in the 10 second range. Many of those modern FI v6's take mucho $$ to get in the 10 second range.

Some cars cost alot to modify and some don't. . What made this car special is that it could be made to go fast for very little money. Some of them rice burners have $15-20k in engine mods and they still can't match this car or the lesser V-6 regular GN.

28 posted on 12/13/2010 1:31:52 PM PST by hoyt-clagwell (5:00 AM Gym Crew Jerking Iron.....)
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To: RexBeach

“I never understood the attraction to this car.

6 cylinders? Turbocharged? How much HP could it be?”

You could just as easily say this about a 911 Turbo. But you probably wouldn’t. :)


29 posted on 12/13/2010 1:31:55 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (Attn. GOP: Deliver the goods, or we'll do to you what we did to the Dems!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Smokey Yunick was involved in those V6 Motors.


30 posted on 12/13/2010 1:33:07 PM PST by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date which will live in Infamy.)
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To: RexBeach
The Regal GNX had nearly 300 hp, and almost 400 pounds of torque stock - GM downplayed these numbers on this this car so it wouldn't compete directly with its own 'Vette.

This was a slightly refined straight-liner. It was designed to go fast, and had semi-decent handling, but fast was the emphasis.

A showroom stock GNX would run the quarter mile at 13.26 seconds and 104 mph (bested the 'Vette for the same year).

31 posted on 12/13/2010 1:33:26 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Liberalism can be summed up thusly: someone craps their pants and we all have to wear diapers)
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To: RexBeach

For 1987, it hauled ass. What made it special I suspect was the gear ratio. It didn’t spin the tires. The car has great grip. Definately a man’s car IMHO.


32 posted on 12/13/2010 1:33:32 PM PST by goseminoles
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To: Mariner

Wonder how it handles, too?


33 posted on 12/13/2010 1:34:30 PM PST by dhs12345
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To: al_c
My wife's 2011 Nissian Maxima 3.5L V6 puts out 290HP @ 6400 rpm normally aspirated.

And I enjoyed seeing her introduced to "torque steer"...

:-)

34 posted on 12/13/2010 1:34:39 PM PST by 5thGenTexan
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To: databoss

The first time that car is driven with the windows open the overhead lining of the passenger compartment is going let loose from the insulation layer and drop down into the driver’s head.

Those 87 Buick Regals were insanely fun to fishtail in the snow though.


35 posted on 12/13/2010 1:37:05 PM PST by JerseyHighlander (p.s. The word 'bloggers' is not in the freerepublic spellcheck dictionary?!)
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To: goseminoles

A friend of mine had a Nova like that. It only ran about 105mph top end but it got there in a hurry.


36 posted on 12/13/2010 1:37:35 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Responsibility2nd
Friend's dad had one... damn thing was choice. Rode in the thing once in the late 80s/early 90s. You mashed the gas pedal down that thing jolted and took off... like a power band on a 2-stroke dirt bike. If you weren't ready for it, you could easily drive off the road, out of control.

That dude's dad also had a Ferrari 308 and a DeLorian... The DeLorian was a P.O.S., but that flux capacitor thing was cool.

37 posted on 12/13/2010 1:38:34 PM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: RexBeach

In 1987, this was the top “standard” production car. Remember, this car was out-running the new Corvette.

The real heart of the GNX was under the hood. The V6 turbo was upgraded with special bearings, rods and a strengthened valve train. A Garrett AiResearch turbo was linked to a special designed intercooler. The GNX’s computer was modified to enhance fuel mix, turbo boost and transmission performance. The result was 276 horsepower and a massive 360 lbs-fts of torque. There was so much torque available that a special ladder bar was installed beneath the car. It ran from the mid-section of the car to the rear axle to increase rear wheel traction. As a result, the GNX will actually lift the rear end up when the car is about to launch heavily. It’s an interesting and intimidating sight.

http://musclecarfacts.net/1987-grand-national.html


38 posted on 12/13/2010 1:38:55 PM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Responsibility2nd

So this car is the Aztec’s father?


39 posted on 12/13/2010 1:38:55 PM PST by pogo101
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To: devane617

I read an article in a Sports Car magazine where a Honda Odyssey Minivan with a big six utterly destroyed a 60s era Porsche and Jag XKE wearing 60s era rubber. The minivan slaughtered them both on braking, acceleration, top speed, etc. And the slalom made it even worse.

They didn’t expect it to be competitvie at all, so they had brought along some modern tires to help the minivan. When they threw those on, it became a total route.


40 posted on 12/13/2010 1:39:22 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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