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WikiLeaks – State Secrets or Clever Tactics?
OilPrice.com ^ | 07/12/2010 | Claude Salhani

Posted on 12/07/2010 11:55:38 AM PST by bananaman22

Is the US Government Machiavellian enough to orchestrate the recent brouhaha over the so-called website WikiLeaks, is this a real embarrassment, or will it indeed be damaging as some U.S. diplomats claim?

I am not one to support conspiracy theories but when you stop to analyze the content of the information that was leaked it seem that two things emerge: first, the content of the cables were not so earth shattering as to damage national security, or harm Washington’s relations with other countries.

Second, upon further analysis, it would appear that the information revealed instead sends a strong message to America’s foes.

Much of what has been released in those cables is hardly news in any real sense of the word. Take for example the report that the US has been spying on its friends as well as on its foes and that Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton ordered diplomats to assemble information on their foreign counterparts. Let’s get real. Friends have been spying on friends ever since man has been involved in conflict.

Espionage between nations -- both friendly and less so -- can probably be traced back to the time when the first group of cavemen realized they could use clubs as weapons. All intelligence services will, as a matter of fact, gather information on whoever and whatever they can. This is what intelligent services do. The trick is not to get caught.

Did Israel not spy on the United States, its staunchest ally, and without whom Israel would have a hard time sustaining itself. The most infamous of Americans spying for Israel is a former US Navy civilian, Jonathan Pollard, who passed classified information to Israel. Pollard is now serving a life sentence for treason. While Pollard may have become the focus point of the US-Israeli espionage dossier, other incidents have gone largely unnoticed. Full article at: Wikileaks


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: charliereese; israel; machiavelli; middleeasttimes; patbuchanan; paulestinians; paulistinians; proterroristsource; ronpaul; skinheadsonfr; usgovernment; wikileaks

1 posted on 12/07/2010 11:55:44 AM PST by bananaman22
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To: bananaman22

Got a 404 error on the link.


2 posted on 12/07/2010 12:01:29 PM PST by mountainlion (concerned conservative.)
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To: bananaman22

They might like you to THINK they orchestrated it.


3 posted on 12/07/2010 12:04:40 PM PST by Venturer
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To: bananaman22

Marine scuttlebutt has told me that Manning was found dead in his cell by hanging forty minutes ago...don’t know if its true or not yet.


4 posted on 12/07/2010 12:09:54 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

Can i post that as a rumore yet?

FR would be the first and get major league credit


5 posted on 12/07/2010 12:14:55 PM PST by Mr. K ('Profiling' you would be worse than grabbing your balls!)
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To: bananaman22

After the arrest warrant for not wearing a condom story came out I tend to think this is all BS and not a “leak” at all.


6 posted on 12/07/2010 12:15:35 PM PST by Franklin Wright (I'd rather be a Tea Bag than a "D" Bag)
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To: Mr. K
I don't know, I get Marine info off facebook and its getting time on one small thread there. It has only been less than an hour after an initial text.
7 posted on 12/07/2010 12:20:10 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: vetvetdoug

go with your instinct- if it seems valid then Free Republic can scoop the world

Post it if you think its solid


8 posted on 12/07/2010 12:32:15 PM PST by Mr. K ('Profiling' you would be worse than grabbing your balls!)
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To: Mr. K

I have been watching the Marine thread...it looks like a hoax.


9 posted on 12/07/2010 12:33:59 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: mountainlion

Sorry about that - here is the correct link: http://oilprice.com/Geo-Politics/North-America/Wikileaks-State-Secrets-or-Clever-Tactics.html


10 posted on 12/07/2010 12:47:21 PM PST by bananaman22
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To: bananaman22
Espionage between nations -- both friendly and less so -- can probably be traced back to the time when the first group of cavemen realized they could use clubs as weapons. All intelligence services will, as a matter of fact, gather information on whoever and whatever they can. This is what intelligent services do. The trick is not to get caught.

About 5000 years ago the Mesopotamians both invented diplomacy and using the diplomats for espionage. This is where Iran and Iraq are today....

11 posted on 12/07/2010 12:48:11 PM PST by DrDavid (George Orwell was an optimist.)
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Well, let’s see. The site is financed by Soros. None of the documents released (aparently) have anthing to do wiht the birth certificate. Hmmmm...


12 posted on 12/07/2010 1:31:31 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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Well, let’s see. The site is financed by Soros. None of the documents released (apparently) have anything to do with the birth certificate. Hmmmm...


13 posted on 12/07/2010 1:31:49 PM PST by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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