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Have we found the universe that existed before the Big Bang?
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| 11/19/10
Posted on 11/20/2010 10:05:12 PM PST by LibWhacker
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To: LibWhacker
"Penrose believes these circles are windows into the previous universe, spherical ripples left behind by the gravitational effects of colliding black holes in the previous universe."
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posted on
11/20/2010 10:58:33 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post)
To: LibWhacker; betty boop; marron; Alamo-Girl; r9etb; little jeremiah; metmom; xzins
In the beginning there was . . . something . . . ??? . . . maybe?
Beep.
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:08:45 PM PST
by
YHAOS
(you betcha!)
To: LibWhacker
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:13:24 PM PST
by
abigkahuna
(screw em all)
To: Secret Agent Man
[ You are describing God. ]
What is God?...
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:13:26 PM PST
by
hosepipe
(This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole....)
To: LibWhacker
My understandig of entropy is that it is a word ,just a word, for disorder of phenomina. So if a disorder in nature of any kind exists it has entropy which in some sciences can be described by symbolic e.g. mathematical manipulation(s). Maybe this gets us closer to defining existance.
I also would ask the question- If at some time past existance was some tiny dot(maybe not so tiny) what happens to our perception of space?
To: UCANSEE2
Pinto: ‘Okay. That means that our whole solar system could be, like one tiny atom in the fingernail of some other giant being. This is too much! That means one tiny atom in my fingernail could be..’
Professor Jennings: “. . . could be one little, tiny universe.”
Pinto: “Could I buy some pot from you?”
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:16:21 PM PST
by
dfwgator
(Texas Rangers -Thanks for a great season.)
To: LibWhacker
My understandig of entropy is that it is a word ,just a word, for disorder of phenomina. So if a disorder in nature of any kind exists it has entropy which in some sciences can be described by symbolic e.g. mathematical manipulation(s). Maybe this gets us closer to defining existance.
I also would ask the question- If at some time past existance was some tiny dot(maybe not so tiny) what happens to our perception of space?
To: LibWhacker
Here is what I take issue with, in these BANG threads.
I was taught the Universe was infinite and everlasting.
The concept there was a big bang implies it is finite.
Scientists claim they know the size of the Universe, when actually it is just the limits of their equipment. That’s why, over time, the ‘size’ of the Universe has increased. Ironically, at the farthest edge of the viewable universe, where the matter should be the thinnest, in the darkest spot we can find, it is packed full of galaxies.
So, the word UNIVERSE needs to have a standard definition.
Is is either infinite, or it is not. If we could settle that, it would make discussion so much easier.
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:23:55 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
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To: hosepipe; Secret Agent Man
What is God?... OH..... I know, I know.... (waving hands).
God is.
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:26:15 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
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To: LiteKeeper
Still does not explain the origin of information or morality!Comes as standard equipment with every Universe.
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:28:09 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
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To: YHAOS; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; Ethan Clive Osgoode; betty boop; ...
Looks like scientists have found something new to replace God with.
And they laugh at us for believing in Him.
Their option is better because.....????
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:28:16 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: hosepipe
If eternity future is possible.. why not eternity past?..What about eternity now?
Like when you are waiting for the microwave oven to 'ding'.
Or during a really passionate kiss?
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:30:36 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post)
To: dfwgator
LOL! You have to love those Delta guys!
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:33:28 PM PST
by
Sarajevo
(You're jealous because the voices only talk to me.)
To: noinfringers2
My understanding of entropy is that it is ...God's way of telling the Universe it's getting old.
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:34:17 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
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To: Secret Agent Man
You are describing God.Everything man says describing the Universe, is describing God.
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:35:25 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post)
To: metmom
Looks like scientists have found something new to replace God with.Theory?
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:38:59 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post)
To: LibWhacker
The Big Bang model holds that everything that now comprises the universe was once concentrated in a single point of near-infinite density. Before this singularity exploded and the universe began, there was absolutely nothing - indeed, it's not clear whether one can even use the term "before" in reference to a pre-Big-Bang cosmos, as time itself may not have existed yet. In the current model, the universe began with the Big Bang, underwent cosmic inflation for a fraction of a second, then settled into the much more gradual expansion that is still going on, and likely will end with the universe as an infinitely expanded, featureless cosmos. I'd love to have someone try to explain the mechanism behind this expansion.
If black holes, which are only part of this universe, exert such a strong gravitational field that even light can't escape, how do they explain how the entire mass of the whole universe could be contained within this minute point, and not be trapped forever in it by its own gravitational pull.
How did it escape itself? What kind of and amount of force was necessary to overcome that kind of gravitational attraction?
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:39:56 PM PST
by
metmom
(Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
To: LibWhacker
that time is just another dimension, and just like the others, has no beginning. Except for on a personal basis.
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:41:17 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
(Lame and ill-informed post)
To: LibWhacker
....that time is just another dimension, and just like the others, has no beginning. From the diagrams in the Penrose paper, he seems to be saying that time and the spacial dimensions existed before the "Big Bang"(always existed). That'll cause some to cough and wheeze.
His theory also states "... all particles will lose their mass towards the end of the universe". Wonder if he means that all particles will become photons whizzing around at the speed of light?
To: metmom
What kind of and amount of force was necessary to overcome that kind of gravitational attraction? Well, it would be a whole bunch. I know that.
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posted on
11/20/2010 11:44:08 PM PST
by
UCANSEE2
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