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Good TEOTWAWKI fiction book recommendations? (Vanity)
My own brilliant mind | 11/11/10 | Celtic Cross

Posted on 11/11/2010 7:43:42 AM PST by Celtic Cross

Can anyone recommend some good books of the post-apocolypse-America genre? I read a couple of books that have piqued my interest on the subject.

I'm looking for some books that don't encompass zombies or 26th century steam engine building puritans.

Thanks in advance.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: books; fiction; novels; teotwawki
I hate to post and run, but i'm a bit busy so i'll check back later.
1 posted on 11/11/2010 7:43:51 AM PST by Celtic Cross
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To: Celtic Cross

2 posted on 11/11/2010 7:46:56 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: Celtic Cross; Travis McGee

Matt Bracken’s collection:

http://enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/index.htm


3 posted on 11/11/2010 7:47:07 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Celtic Cross
"Patriots" by James Wesley Rawles. Check out his website:

Survival Blog

4 posted on 11/11/2010 7:50:38 AM PST by JOAT
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To: Celtic Cross

The best one out right now is “One Second After”. Well researched and will make you think of things you may not have before.


5 posted on 11/11/2010 7:51:12 AM PST by Boiling point (Beck / Palin 2012)
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To: Celtic Cross
Heinlein's “Farnham’s Freehold”. (1964) Seminal iconography of the genre's conventions still echoes today.
6 posted on 11/11/2010 7:51:12 AM PST by Company Man
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To: Boiling point; Celtic Cross
The best one out right now is “One Second After”.

I was going to make the same suggestion. Get it. Read it.

7 posted on 11/11/2010 7:52:26 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Celtic Cross

Patriots by John Wesley Rawles is a good one.


8 posted on 11/11/2010 7:52:54 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Obama is like a rocket scientist....who's trying to do brain surgery with a hammer.)
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To: 1rudeboy

9 posted on 11/11/2010 7:53:52 AM PST by COBOL2Java (Obama is the least qualified guy in whatever room he walks into.)
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To: Celtic Cross

EARTH ABIDES—George Stewart

ALAS, BABYLON—Pat Frank

These two books reveal the current crop of zombie apocalypse books as the utter garbage they are. After you’ve read those, you can move on to what I consider the great novel of post-apocalypse America...

A CANTICLE FOR LEIBOVITZ—Walter M. Miller, Jr.

I don’t want to muddy the waters with too many suggestions. People should read these ones. The Miller influenced one of my first published short stories, but I think one can objectively note that it’s considered a classic.


10 posted on 11/11/2010 7:56:03 AM PST by Darkwolf377 ( Mm, your tears are so yummy and sweet!Oh, the tears of unfathomable sadness! Mm-yummy! --E. Cartman)
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To: Celtic Cross
John Ringo's The Last Centurion. Except for the assumption that Hillery is president at the time of the collapse it reads like today's headlines. Best read I have had in a long time.

11 posted on 11/11/2010 7:56:36 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Celtic Cross

Hard to beat the old classics, “Alas, Babylon,” “Earth Abides,” “Maleval,” “The Road,” if you want to stay away from aliens (”Farnham’s Freehold”, an otherwise good read) and supernaturalism (”The Stand”, one of King’s best).


12 posted on 11/11/2010 7:57:29 AM PST by Hootowl
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To: JOAT; Celtic Cross

+1


13 posted on 11/11/2010 7:57:34 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Celtic Cross

Check out this Amazon forum discussion about “Newer post-apocalyptic books?”. The list is endless.

“The Passage” is one of the popular ones right now.

http://www.amazon.com/tag/post-apocalyptic/forum/ref=cm_cd_pg_oldest?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx1OKNQ14ZHFEI6&cdPage=1&cdSort=newest&cdThread=Tx1KYQCJ41XQI7N&displayType=tagsDetail


14 posted on 11/11/2010 7:57:41 AM PST by Bones Boy
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To: Celtic Cross

I enjoyed “The Descent” although it dragged in the middle a bit.

Congratulations on proper spelling of “piqued”. I feel like banging my head on a desk when I see how it is usually spelled.


15 posted on 11/11/2010 7:58:08 AM PST by linear (Sticklers Unite!)
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To: Celtic Cross
Lights Out
16 posted on 11/11/2010 8:00:43 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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To: JOAT

I read Patriots. Pretty interesting, although his writing style is a bit clumky.


17 posted on 11/11/2010 8:01:02 AM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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To: Celtic Cross
His = Rawles

Clumky = Clunky

18 posted on 11/11/2010 8:03:48 AM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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To: Celtic Cross
I wanted to seek treatment for manic depression after reading "The Road" by Cormack McCarthy. OMG that was dark.

Also, one of my favorites is "Judgement Day" by James F David. Not necessarily TEOTWAWKI, but is about a group that discovers anti-gravity and a dictatorship in America.

19 posted on 11/11/2010 8:05:28 AM PST by SwankyC ("I'm no bigot. I will pray with any man." - Samuel Adams)
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To: Celtic Cross
Moonview Trucker. It's a paradoy of space operas.

From the description: Dex Doxroy isn't ready to stop driving. But Moonview says it's the law. After an accident in space, an independent freighter pilot and veteran of the War for Habitat Independence (WHI) resists the Moonview Government's attempt to revoke his license. He takes off in his rig for the trade routes to reconnect with his war buddy and wingman, Buster. Pursued by McNiff, a self-promoting administrator, Dex confronts the administrator, his retirement, and his continued existence.

http://www.amazon.com/Moonview-Trucker-Charles-Bowen/dp/1453690093/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1289490551&sr=1-1#_

20 posted on 11/11/2010 8:05:28 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Celtic Cross
I wanted to seek treatment for manic depression after reading "The Road" by Cormack McCarthy. OMG that was dark.

Also, one of my favorites is "Judgement Day" by James F David. Not necessarily TEOTWAWKI, but is about a group that discovers anti-gravity and a dictatorship in America.

21 posted on 11/11/2010 8:05:50 AM PST by SwankyC ("I'm no bigot. I will pray with any man." - Samuel Adams)
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bump


22 posted on 11/11/2010 8:07:16 AM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: raven92876

ping


23 posted on 11/11/2010 8:08:10 AM PST by stylecouncilor (What Would Jim Thompson Do?)
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To: Celtic Cross

What does TEOTWAWKI stand for?
The End Of The World As We Know It


24 posted on 11/11/2010 8:08:49 AM PST by zeebee
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To: Celtic Cross

Lucifer’s Hammer.


25 posted on 11/11/2010 8:09:21 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: Celtic Cross; ├čudda├čudd
Pretty interesting, although his writing style is a bit clumky.

Agreed. It's really more of a handbook of "how-to's" but the story is okay.

"Lights Out" is also a good read to ponder how quickly we would plunge into Chaos if electricity were to suddenly stop flowing via an EMP event.

Lights Out Book

A free pdf version is floating around the net too.

26 posted on 11/11/2010 8:11:23 AM PST by JOAT
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To: Toddsterpatriot

EXACTLY! I couldn’t believe 25 posts WITHOUT mention of LUCIFER’S HAMMER!


27 posted on 11/11/2010 8:11:53 AM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Celtic Cross

Lots of good suggestions here. I recommend Lucifer’s Hammer by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle.

http://www.amazon.com/Lucifers-Hammer-Larry-Niven/dp/0449208133/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1289491030&sr=1-1


28 posted on 11/11/2010 8:12:25 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: DuncanWaring; Celtic Cross; Travis McGee
Second the motion for Matt Bracken's books:


29 posted on 11/11/2010 8:13:26 AM PST by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: Celtic Cross

Go Go Girls of the Apocalypse - seriously:
http://www.amazon.com/Go-Go-Girls-Apocalypse-Victor-Gischler/dp/1416552251/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1289490045&sr=1-1
Tongue in cheek craziness but underlying plausibility in crazy ways civilization attempts to recover. Southern crackers and Latin cartels struggle for the mantle of civilization’s defenders. Cannibals, bathtub gin, concubinage, guns, trains, souped up Mack truck and Geo war wagons, love, lust and hot air balloons - Good stuff.

Dies the Fire:
http://www.amazon.com/Dies-Fire-S-M-Stirling/dp/0451460413/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1289490131&sr=1-4
This is a sci-fi/fantasy based cause of technological collapse in which some but not all laws of physics suddenly change. Basically, everything is thrown back to late medieval limits of technology. Setting that aside, the change in human behavior and adaptability is interesting, and completely changes social structures, religious allegiances and political landscapes. Suffers from occasional PC as the author was nearly run out of publishing after his Draka alternative history series.

Lucifer’s Hammer:
http://www.amazon.com/Lucifers-Hammer-Larry-Niven/dp/0449208133/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1289490456&sr=1-1
An oldie, but goodie. Natural causes (meteor strike) and their aftereffects unravel civilization overnight. Somewhat of an outdated and to my mind optimistic happy ending potential, but a very, very good read in the postapoc genre. Published in 1977 and still in print and still convincing - what can I say? A classic.


30 posted on 11/11/2010 8:15:02 AM PST by Psalm 144
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To: sam_paine

I started a trend.


31 posted on 11/11/2010 8:20:36 AM PST by Toddsterpatriot (Math is hard. Harder if you're stupid.)
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To: sam_paine

Another vote for Lucifers Hammer.

Niven and Pournelle in top form

Great ending too,or at least hope for a new beginning


32 posted on 11/11/2010 8:27:46 AM PST by Harold Shea (RVN `70 - `71)
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To: All

Thanks for all the recommendations. I’ll look into all of them.


33 posted on 11/11/2010 8:29:30 AM PST by Celtic Cross (I AM the Impeccable Hat.)
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To: Toddsterpatriot

I almost forgot...John Birmingham is in the middle of a series of books in this genre.

The first is “Without Warning” and the second is “After America”.

Both are interesting reads.

http://www.amazon.com/Without-Warning-ebook/dp/B001NLKS3O/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1289491962&sr=1-5

http://www.amazon.com/After-America-John-Birmingham/dp/0345502914/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1289491962&sr=1-1


34 posted on 11/11/2010 8:29:35 AM PST by 6ppc (It's torch and pitchfork time)
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To: GonzoGOP
John Ringo's The Last Centurion

+1. I just read that a few months ago. Not good to read if you're a liberal. I loved it.

As to a list

Patriots
Lucifer's Hammer (dated but still good)
Farnham's Freehold
Dies the Fire. The first book is a post apoc survival tale...it gets a little fruity in the next books
I've read others, I just wish I could recall them. heh.

35 posted on 11/11/2010 8:29:52 AM PST by Malsua
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To: linear; Celtic Cross
Well, I'm glad C.C. diffused that situation.

≤};^)

36 posted on 11/11/2010 8:44:21 AM PST by Erasmus (Personal goal: Have a bigger carbon footprint than Tony Robbins.)
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To: zeebee; Celtic Cross

It’s my tag name.


37 posted on 11/11/2010 8:55:09 AM PST by Teotwawki (To Him be the glory throughout all generations.)
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To: Celtic Cross

Deep Winter series by Tom Sherry.

He’s started a fourth book on the same events used in the first three books, but from a different prospective.

The fourth book is being posted on line as chapters are written at http://deepwinterstory.blogspot.com/

The earlier three books are available (free, I think) from the author as PDF files or for a reasonable price as printed and bound books. Info is at the site.

These are well worth reading - I read them as each chapter was posted a few years ago and looked forward to reading each installment.

Jack


38 posted on 11/11/2010 9:09:37 AM PST by JackOfVA
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To: Boiling point
One Second After was interesting. It sort of depends upon what is meant by a TEOTWAWKI book. Does it have to begin with some sort of cataclysmic event? Is Atlas Shrugged a TEOTWAWKI book?

The Camp of the Saints by Jean Raspail is a really great book that hasn't gotten enough attention. It's probably closer to Atlas Shrugged as a TEOTWAWKI book though it does have a cataclysmic event which the reader knows is coming pretty early on.

ML/NJ

39 posted on 11/11/2010 9:22:26 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: COBOL2Java

LOL, you win the prize for scariest book. :-)


40 posted on 11/11/2010 9:52:39 AM PST by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Celtic Cross

Not exactly a book - but the “Ghost in the Shell” movie and 40 some odd episodes are fine work in this meme.


41 posted on 11/11/2010 9:58:41 AM PST by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Celtic Cross
Of course, some of the best of the genre are in media other than print
42 posted on 11/11/2010 10:10:10 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.8)
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To: ml/nj
Another fun book that does start with a cataclysmic event is Roy Neuberger's 2020 Vision. (Follow my link! When I searched either by title or author Amazon didn't find it. Maybe I screwed up?) It helps to understand the thinking of an observant Jew when reading this one.

ML/NJ

43 posted on 11/11/2010 11:18:07 AM PST by ml/nj
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To: Celtic Cross
I liked "A World Made By Hand" ...

http://worldmadebyhand.com/

44 posted on 11/11/2010 2:55:54 PM PST by Whitebread
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To: Celtic Cross
Lucifer's Hammer by Niven and Pournelle;

The Last Centurion by John Ringo;

John Ringo's "Posleen" series, starting with A Hymn Before Dying;

Way of the Pilgrim by Gordon R Dickson;

Fallen Angels by Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle & Michael Flynn (available free online

45 posted on 11/11/2010 3:20:37 PM PST by PapaBear3625 ("It is only when we've lost everything, that we are free to do anything" -- Fight Club)
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To: Celtic Cross; Jeff Head
Geez - no one gave you a link to our own Jeff Head?

Dragon's Fury

Dragon's Fury - World War Against America and the West
: Following great success in the War on Terror, politicians and analysts alike thought that future global conflict was impossible...but they were wrong. Journey into a possible future where Islamic terrorists sharpen their horrific skills & ally with Red China. In such a future, can the U.S. & western civilization survive?

It's five volumes that you will not want to put down. Cheers.

46 posted on 11/11/2010 5:46:03 PM PST by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional !! ┬)
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To: Darkwolf377

I have not read Earth Abides but will look for it. I have read the other two and recommend them, especially Canticle for Leibovitz.

I also recommend
Larry Niven Lucifer’s Hammer
and
Steven King The Stand


47 posted on 11/11/2010 5:58:18 PM PST by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: brityank

Thaanks my friend. The whole thing is now available as a single hardback volume of close to1000 pages of small print...much more economical for my readers that way.

Folks can download the entire thing as an ebook for free...I just ask if they like it to please buy the hardback afterwards.

http://www.jeffhead.com/ebookdownload/


48 posted on 11/11/2010 8:51:20 PM PST by Jeff Head (Liberty is not free. Never has been, never will be. (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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