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[Vanity] - Why is Illegal Immigration Wrong?
09/17/2010 | Personal

Posted on 09/17/2010 11:40:59 PM PDT by hylandia

I live in San Francisco, and I think you all know what that implies. I am a dyed-in-the-wool liberal and nearly everyone I interact with daily is as well. I read Free Republic most days to try to understand why Obamacare is so hated, and why the Ground Zero Mosque is taking such flak. And to be honest, I understand most of the viewpoints here. I don't agree, but I understand. The only one I don't understand is the very, very strong opposition to illegal immigration. Is it strictly a legal opposition? Workers that flaunt our laws at the border are likely to flaunt others? Or are there other reasons? I promise not to post again... so the zotting is a foregone response. I am just very interested in exactly why you feel that illegal immigration is so wrong.


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To: hylandia

Illegals come here looking for a better life. But they take cuts in line and demand you pay for their better life. If you are waiting in line for a hot dog at a SF Giants game. You have been waiting for 10... 12... 15 minutes... and are about to get to the front to get your hot dog.. and here comes 30 or 40 people who take cuts in the line and then demand that you pay for their hot dog. The way you would feel approximates the way people feel about illegal immigrants.


21 posted on 09/17/2010 11:51:13 PM PDT by Guyin4Os (A messianic ger-tsedek)
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To: hylandia

You know, It’s my Birthday and it’s Constitution Day.

That is the best question you could come up with?


22 posted on 09/17/2010 11:51:29 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: hylandia

23 posted on 09/17/2010 11:52:00 PM PDT by Daffynition ("Life Imitates Bacon, but Bacon does not imitate Life. Bacon IS life." ~paulycy)
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To: Vendome

Happy BirthDay!


24 posted on 09/17/2010 11:54:10 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (If Obama was the answer---that must have been one stupid question!)
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To: hylandia

I don’t “feel” illegal aliens breaking into my country is wrong,

I “know” it’s illegal and I do not want any undocumented persons here, period, no matter the county of origin.


25 posted on 09/17/2010 11:54:25 PM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: SaraJohnson

I’m not running out of water and I have two lifesaver bottles to purify any water I find.

California is beautiful.

What is in short supply are honest intellectuals who can see down the road and plan for it’s eventuality.


26 posted on 09/17/2010 11:54:37 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: Daffynition


27 posted on 09/17/2010 11:54:41 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Gene Eric

^5


28 posted on 09/17/2010 11:55:00 PM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: hylandia

Illegal aliens use services while getting paid under the table. Their children go to public schools, they may pay taxes but they cost far more than they deliver.

They get free medical care. Hospitals are required by law to treat people who come in the emergency room. On the border, Mexican ambulances bring in people that have to be treated. Not just minor stuff but things like organ transplants. America has become the free hospital to Mexico and Central America. As a result, emergency rooms are overloaded and hospitals are closing across the country because of all the unreimbursed care they have to dish out. Our health care system is collapsing because of all the illegal aliens it has to treat.


29 posted on 09/17/2010 11:55:03 PM PDT by sinanju
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To: hylandia

IBTZ!!! (For a change.)


30 posted on 09/17/2010 11:56:11 PM PDT by InABunkerUnderSF (Anyone who has read Roman history knows a barbarian invasion when they see one.)
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To: hylandia; Old Sarge; darkwing104; rabscuttle385; 50mm; Atom Smasher; 230FMJ; Aircop_2006; bcsco; ...
Educating you on domestic law, national sovereignty, the United States Constitution, the lives lost in defense of it's construct, and the various, uniquely American intangibles will take far longer than your projected lifespan here. And from the content of your post, if you haven't gotten it by now, you never will.

Sorry November 2nd is about to unplug you from your personal Matrix. Have a nice life. Oh, and IBTZ.

"But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: for men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away, for his name is Obama."

31 posted on 09/17/2010 11:56:14 PM PDT by Viking2002 (2010 - NO PRISONERS! NO QUARTER!)
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To: hylandia
Why is Illegal Immigration Wrong?

If you have to ask then you don't belong here.

32 posted on 09/17/2010 11:56:59 PM PDT by Semper Mark (0bama: "The only people who don't want to disclose the truth are people with something to hide.")
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Thanks!

I count 7 dingbats who signed up today asking various and sundry idiotic questions.

My one ray of sunshine is the hope this thread will turn humorous.

But, it won’t as the premise of the subject is idiotic and the poster doesn’t even have a name we can make fun of.


33 posted on 09/17/2010 11:57:04 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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To: hylandia

Brain Drain of poorer country youth. You know a poor Country spends it money educating its young people and then they go off to another Country for more money.

Another reason is it take away jobs from people who are here legally, and that includes many blacks and Latinos as well as everbody else.

Illegals drive up the costs the States have to bear. You see when an illegal has kids, they go.....
to school and the State pays for it,
to a hospital and the State pays for it
to a jail and the State pays for it
Not the feds. Like 30 percent of State Prisons populations are illegals.

The Federal Government on the other hand only gets mostly the benefits of illegals, like the taxes the employers pay and so forth. And guess who controls the border? The Federal Government

Welcome to FR


34 posted on 09/17/2010 11:57:08 PM PDT by TomasUSMC ( FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM)
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To: hylandia

1) We are a society based around law, not tribes. Disrespect for the law is damaging in and of itself, but also a) it leads to future lawbreaking, and b) it leads to a sense of privilege for the tribe allowed to get away with it.

2) Our forefathers came over here and did the hard job of entering legally, so to allow others to flaunt the law is to urinate on the legacy of our ancestors.

3) Due to the overwhelming number of illegal Mexican immigrants, we now have a separate culture within our borders. A nation with more than one language and culture is not one that is united.

4) It forces Americans out of jobs. Two examples: a) we could have been developing more automation technology for agriculture. Just imagine how this industry could have cushioned the fall of our automotive industry! b) just talk to someone in the building trades what the impact of illegal immigration has been.

5) Legal immigrants are sponsored. The sponsor is supposed to make sure the immigrant is not a troublemaker. Illegals have no sponsor, and because of the socio-economic class the vast majority belong to, they get into lots and lots of trouble. This has caused huge problems with crime, and many citizen victims.

6) It creates a new underclass in America. They are separate, yet taken advantage of for menial labor tasks. We fought a bloody war in the 1800 to get past that.

7) It creates a huge underclass in America that overwhelms our social services to the point of bankruptcy.

8) IT IS ILLEGAL, YOU DOPE! WE SHOULDN’T HAVE TO JUSTIFY THE EXISTENCE OF LONG-STANDING, COMMON-SENSE LAWS YOU LIBS WANT TO BREAK!!!


35 posted on 09/17/2010 11:57:08 PM PDT by Yossarian (A pro-life democrat is one who holds out for something in return for his pro-abortion vote.)
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To: Vendome

Vendome! Happy Birthday!
(Yesterday)...lol.


36 posted on 09/17/2010 11:57:51 PM PDT by onyx (If you support Sarah and want on her Ping List, let me know!)
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To: hylandia

It is highly disturbing that you would even ask this question. Are you completely lacking in common sense?

What’s next, you’re gonna wonder why rape and child molestation are wrong?

Wake up and give your head a shake, buddy.


37 posted on 09/17/2010 11:58:38 PM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: hylandia

How about this: My wife is here from another counrty, we did all the paper work, paid the fees, and on and on. It took over a year for her to come here. Once here I had to ensure she had a means of support by law. Illegals enter and can go straight on a goverment program. That is one of the reasons I have a problem with illegals.


38 posted on 09/17/2010 11:58:47 PM PDT by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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To: hylandia

The people here illegally are not the real criminals. They are simply the cannon fodder for two groups that are equally bad:

- Country-club Republicans who want cheap labor
- Dems who want to build a reliable vote bank


39 posted on 09/17/2010 11:58:53 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Viking2002; Berlin_Freeper

Hey, maybe tonight will not be so boring.

Viking pinged a huge list.


40 posted on 09/17/2010 11:59:38 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously... You'll never live through it.)
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