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To: SunkenCiv; G8 Diplomat; nuconvert

Hawass is disturbed as he was not involved in the study as he is of the opinion that everything about Egypt has to pass him.

You can read the article here http://web.bgu.ac.il/NR/rdonlyres/55DF630A-CCFA-40CD-A069-7A0304D422C5/99415/DatingPharaonicEgyptBruinsScience2012.pdf

“The New Kingdom, which starts with the reign of Ahmose, began between about 1570 and 1544 B.C.E.”

“Finally, some common sense. Ahmose expelled the Hyksos from Egypt during the timeframe above, more than half a century after Santorini blew in 1628bce. The destruction of Minoan trade networks and the depopulation of Western Anatolia due to toxic volcanic ash allowed Hittite expansion and aggression into that area as well as their long-range sack of Babylon circa 1605bce. In other words, three super-powers bit the dust in 50 years; the Minoans, the Babylonians and the Hyksos. The new Egyptian empire would eventually regain enough strength to take on the Hittites at Qadesh and survive to tell about it.”
http://www.ishtarsgate.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1173&p=10877


10 posted on 07/16/2010 11:40:54 PM PDT by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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To: AdmSmith

Thanks AdmSmith for the PDF. D/Led if for later.

However, the conventional pseudochronology is mistaken — the Middle Kingdom didn’t end until about 1450 BC, and the NK didn’t begin until the time of Saul; the last of the Hyksos Pharaohs was killed by the prophet Samuel, who seemed to need some psych meds most of the time. The first Babylonian period ended at the same time as the Middle Kingdom of Egypt, with the invasion of the Kassites.

Egypt was again occupied between the 18th and 19th dynasties, which were not contiguous. Ramses II lost at, and fled from, Kadesh (in this case, Carchemish), centuries after the time he had supposedly lived and died.

Haremhab’s Contemporaries
http://www.varchive.org/tac/hararch.htm

The Allies of Priam
http://www.varchive.org/dag/trowar.htm


11 posted on 07/17/2010 6:23:07 AM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: AdmSmith; yarddog

my error — I forgot about the Hittites who were Indo-European (they even worshipped Hindu gods like Mitra and Agni) and Mitanni.


39 posted on 07/18/2010 12:34:31 AM PDT by Cronos (Catholic = conservative)
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To: AdmSmith; yarddog

my error — I forgot about the Hittites who were Indo-European (they even worshipped Hindu gods like Mitra and Agni) like the Mitanni. Could Ramsses have had some of their blood? I would doubt it as they had appeared on the scene a few hundred years earlier and there was little reason for the EGyptian royal family to inter-marry with these strangers (philadelphus :)


40 posted on 07/18/2010 12:35:45 AM PDT by Cronos (Catholic = conservative)
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