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Katla - 14 earthquakes in 48 hours!
Ice Age Now ^ | 9 July, 2010 | NA

Posted on 07/09/2010 6:44:30 PM PDT by Errant

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To: Godzilla
As for ur friction not causing melt....oi vey the position statement I gave u explored why the radiant thermal heat from the earth could not account for the melt underneath greenland’s field and that the like denominator was friction.
81 posted on 07/12/2010 10:31:06 AM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: Palladin
What does it all mean, Stimpy?


82 posted on 07/12/2010 10:32:45 AM PDT by Errant
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To: winoneforthegipper
With No respect intended, God, you are one the one the last few months that have seriously misused ur supposed credentials by distributing disinformation and not just on Katla.

Right, while you have delusions of competence in the field.

83 posted on 07/12/2010 10:34:16 AM PDT by Godzilla ( 3-7-77)
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To: stormer
If you're charging to do research, folks should get their money back.

And yet, my clients continue to contract my services over and over again. In fact, when I chose to do so, I probably made in a month what you make in a year. Such is the burden of being able to extrapolate and abstract. These are burdens that you are mercifully free from.

If you can't even start from the beginning, there's no point in me carrying you anywhere.

I would, however count on you for the answer to a single question: How's the hamster life-cycle grant market these days?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

84 posted on 07/12/2010 10:56:40 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: stormer
You may want to broaden your understanding of friction. It may be dynamic or static (and in the case of glaciers, both certainly exist).

That there is a degree of friction exists beneath glaciers is a fact. But what also is a fact is that the primary source of meltwater from glaciers is from the surface melting. Another fact meltwater sources from the base of the glacier are heat generated from ice deformation - which is a form of pressure increase within the ice pushing it past the ice-liquid pressure/temperature boundary as well as other pressure factors. Now if you want to call that 'friction' I would agree only in that it is causing pressure changes in the ice itself. It is not kinetic friction but approaches the realm of fluid dynamics because of the plasticity of the ice under pressure. It passes the use of the term 'friction' in the common use then.

85 posted on 07/12/2010 10:56:45 AM PDT by Godzilla ( 3-7-77)
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To: winoneforthegipper
As for ur friction not causing melt....oi vey the position statement I gave u explored why the radiant thermal heat from the earth could not account for the melt underneath greenland’s field and that the like denominator was friction.

As I stated before, your linked abstract examines the function of an enhanced geothermal gradient to account for the increased flow - from the abstract

Within the idealized Jakobshavn Isbra with walls with 45°-slopes extending 1500 m to the valley floor that is 3 km wide, the geothermal flux is about 150% of the background geothermal heat flux.

My, didn't I say that they were finding that they had to model a higher geothermal gradient than normal . . . .

86 posted on 07/12/2010 11:00:54 AM PDT by Godzilla ( 3-7-77)
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To: The Comedian

So you’re not only a thief, but a liar as well.


87 posted on 07/12/2010 11:17:22 AM PDT by stormer
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To: stormer
So you’re not only a thief, but a liar as well.

So, the hamster life-cycle grant market is that bad, eh?


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

88 posted on 07/12/2010 11:30:44 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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To: Errant; All

Could you tell me more about your theory and its time frame. I have written details at other Catastrophism posts, but the pressure of deadlines is keeping me from responding with details immediately.


89 posted on 07/12/2010 12:02:54 PM PDT by gleeaikin (question authority)
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To: jacquej
A cardinal cross is an astronomical configuration where more than several planets are at 90 degrees apart from one another, and 180 degrees in opposition. Saturn will be opposite Jupiter and Uranus, Pluto will be between them, 90 degrees away from each end. When the Sun and the closer in planets move to form hard angles to the former, a “cross” is formed.

Do you mean

When the moon is in the Seventh House And Jupiter aligns with Mars Then peace will guide the planets And love will steer the stars This is the dawning of the Age of Aquarius

90 posted on 07/12/2010 12:13:15 PM PDT by cynicalman
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To: Godzilla

Thanks for the information.


91 posted on 07/12/2010 2:22:20 PM PDT by GOPJ (When it's Voter intimidation, the NAACP and the White Citizens Council are brothers under the skin.)
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To: Godzilla
Never said I had complete competence, but I will say on the issues of Katla, Eyjaf and yellowstone, my statements have held a heck of lot more valid science than yours.

I am done with ur tease Godzilla, I lost all respect for you in your attempted diminishing of Steve, a few weeks back. You my FRiend should reconsider your attitude when dealing with those that perhaps are not with degree but simply know what they are talking about.

This is at least the fourth time you tried to contradict a statement I made to a fellow board member who took the time to ask me a question. I answered honestly and within the knowledge I have garnered. You, with supposed knowledge came to the conclusion that you must disagree and I think just because I called you out on your Katla warning. So be it, but do me a favour....leave your God Complex at your house, it's not needed here.

92 posted on 07/12/2010 2:59:35 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: gleeaikin; All
Could you tell me more about your theory and its time frame.

In a nutshell, roughly every 100K years since the Cenozoic Era, something occurs that causes a global warming period lasting for about 10K years before the Earth returns to its normal colder climate.

What ever causes the warming, it ends rather quickly. Perhaps the cause is the Sun entering an active phase, a decrease in the amount of space dust in the solar system, some characteristic in eccentricity of the Earth's orbit or a periodic release of heat from the Earth's interior or any combination of the above. It's my way of thinking about global warming or cooling in reverse and it's time for the warm period to end.

93 posted on 07/12/2010 3:06:34 PM PDT by Errant
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To: winoneforthegipper

You are the one with the complex. IF you want to consider your statement on YS and others more ‘correct’ than the experts - go for it bro - get your self into business and make money at it. Otherwise spare me your platitudes for in those previous topics it was clear who knew what they were talking about - and it wasn’t you.


94 posted on 07/12/2010 3:08:19 PM PDT by Godzilla ( 3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
Whatever bud,.....I will enjoy monitoring earthquakes, volcanic activity and any other natural anomaly despite ur naggin butt....lol

Just wondering though, do you even know my position on yellowstone?

I didn't think so....lol

Have a god evening my FRiend!

95 posted on 07/12/2010 3:13:45 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Do you know mine? Didn’t think so either. So much for your mind reading capabilities too.


96 posted on 07/12/2010 3:17:51 PM PDT by Godzilla ( 3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
Truthfully Godzilla, all I know is that took Steve to the woodshed over his beliefs on the yellowstone caldera(which are not mine).

His position that the pot is terminally active has some merit, enough anyways for someone as trained as you to understand why a novice would become engrossed with it.

You chose to belittle him....as you have attempted with me quite a few times but certainly not to that degree as you did him.

I must surmise then that at one point before my knowledge of this board, he must have disagreed with you as well...lol

97 posted on 07/12/2010 3:25:01 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Had you looked at my intial replies, I was attempting to educate him by pointing him to the views of those who study YS full time, that such events were common and not in themselves a sign of emminent activity - contrary to the title of his thread. I tried to explain the absence of magmatic harmonic signatures and that the seismographs record quakes from around the world and that to fixate on that alone, separate from the data stream from the experts who have all the data and tools to analyze it was wrong. It was only after he blew off my attempts did my frustration break through. I believe he and I have come to an understanding, so I consider that issue to be at closure.


98 posted on 07/12/2010 3:52:40 PM PDT by Godzilla ( 3-7-77)
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To: Godzilla
I knew what you were attempting and at the time posted in agreement with ur message, just not the delivery.

Glad you and Steve resolved the issue and hopefully you both came away from the experience more tolerating.

As for leaving things to the expert in regards to such things...I can not disagree more. I have on my own accord noticed things the experts did not and have witnessed on other occasions including Eyjaf, novices who far and away outperformed Vulcanologist's worldwide.

Data sets from monitoring devices are kept by some countries as intellectual property and viewed as guarded knowledge. I personally see this behaviour not only detrimental to the protection of this world's denizens but indeed very snobbish...lol

99 posted on 07/12/2010 4:07:28 PM PDT by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: winoneforthegipper

Then may I suggest for your icequake evaluations this link

http://en.vedur.is/earthquakes-and-volcanism/earthquakes/myrdalsjokull/#view=table

which provides greater detail regarding the recorded quakes in the area of the volcanos. Depth of quake should help weed out shallow icequakes from deeper, potentially volcanically generated ones.


100 posted on 07/12/2010 4:18:54 PM PDT by Godzilla ( 3-7-77)
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