Posted on 07/09/2010 6:44:30 PM PDT by Errant
Why would it be more active when it's hotter?
The Luddites.
Like the one you shave every morning.
Still waiting for any support for your “harmonic symptom of a larger underlying wave function”. Guess it’ll be a while.
This melting creates fissures and cracks that pop when form or even when it calves....
So the summer is usually an elevated time with any glacier....
I charge for research. Do your own, I'm busy.
Start here:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100107143909.htm
http://scienceray.com/earth-sciences/geology/san-andreas-fault-mega-thrust-earthquake-2010/
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6TJ4-4KPPMN2-2&_user=10&_coverDate=02%2F28%2F2007&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1397854660&_rerunOrigin=google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=49c6cbe4d74b4552e3da93a16a6f852a
The first dealing with nanoscale symmetry resulting from Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle doesn't seem to discuss your claim.
The second I discarded after I got to this: "Whilst I am not claiming to be an seismologist or an earthquake expert..."
The third, a response to an earlier piece discussing string theory, I'm gonna have to lump with the first - nothing in the abstract about earthquakes OR the alignment of the planets. Of course, that was just the abstract, perhaps in the text we are told what happens when the Moon is in the Second House, and Jupiter aligns with Mars...
(I gotta say it's patently obvious that neither Marilyn McCoo nor Billy Davis, Jr. are actual physicists, but if they were and had listened to you, the band may have been called the Ji-huan Hes Eleven Dimensional Cantorian Spacetime Theory Quintet.)
Finally, as a working scientist I am often reminded that extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. You've made the claim - now provide the proof.
winnie - please do a little more research on glaciers
1. The rate of glacial movement does not cause sufficient ‘friction’ to generate melt water. Melt water comes from the top of the glacier from seasonal snow melts and works it way into the base of glaciers.
2. fissures and cracks are created in the brittle upper surface of glaciers as they pass over/around subsurface features, they do form a passage way for surface melt water to reach the base of glacers.
3. Melting doesn’t cause calving - that is when the ice breaks off generally into water.
Stuff it, never said that Calving was caused by melting...
Second, what on the friction? Landscapes have changed through Millenia by the grinding of glaciers on top of them...see the northwest.
Third as for ur Fissure issues....for “God”s sake read a bit before relying on your limited knowledge base. Here are a few articles...
http://www.king5.com/news/Thousands-of-Ice-quakes-detected-on-Mt-Rainier—95996979.html
http://indianapublicmedia.org/amomentofscience/ice-quake/
If you want to google Icequakes, I am sure you will find plenty more...
Have never observed you to do so.
You’re big top flight, in my book.
Thx Big.
And directly to your point of friction as the coupling of ice and terra....
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2006AGUFM.C41A0319L
Then express yourself better
Second, what on the friction? Landscapes have changed through Millenia by the grinding of glaciers on top of them...see the northwest.
Again, actually READ what I post for a change, I stated that the movement of the ice is insufficient to cause melting winnie. I have lived near, worked in and mapped plenty of glaciated terrains winnie - glacial geomorphology was one of my favorite subjects.
Third as for ur Fissure issues....for Gods sake read a bit before relying on your limited knowledge base. Here are a few articles...
For starters, your links state NOTHING about fissures/crevasses. My statement was correct - your your simple knowledge as an adequate description can be found here
So, for review you stated specifically . . you have much more melt that was is normally caused by the friction between ice and land.... This melting creates fissures and cracks that pop when form or even when it calves....
So accuately depict the facts winnie, before telling some one to 'stuff it'.
Incase you have difficulties reading this abstract, it is talking about melt water generated by PRESSURE, not by friction. Additional factors include geothermal flux beneath the ice to account for additional modeled movements. Hence, melt water is not the result of friction winnie.
Winone is quite right. Fissures are a consequence of differential velocity through the ice column that is a result of friction with the substrate or obstacles. With the increase in pressure at depth, ice becomes plastic. At the contact area, friction and pressure contribute to the formation of a thin layer of liquid water below a glacier. Additionally, geothermal heat can account for liquid water below a glacier.
dude, u don’t deserve better wording....
Secondly, I can read and comprehend at the same time...thanks.
Thanks Stormer....and thanks for putting it better than I could ever!...lol
2. fissures and cracks are created in the brittle upper surface of glaciers as they pass over/around subsurface features, they do form a passage way for surface melt water to reach the base of glacers.
I forgot differential rates of movement account for them as well, however these are commonly associated with subsurface features as well but they are not a melt water feature as claimed by winnie.
Melt water sources - pressure and or geothermal - not friction. Water will reduce friction but is not caused by it that is the point of it all.
What does it all mean, Stimpy?
But the people who read your misinformation do.
You may want to broaden your understanding of friction. It may be dynamic or static (and in the case of glaciers, both certainly exist). Both produce heat, as does torsion within the ice. Fissures can be a melt water feature - while the fissure may have started as a surface crack, running water and frost heave can certainly erode ice surfaces.
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