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Are Cameras the New Guns?
Gizmodo.com ^
| 6/2/2010
| Wendy McElroy
Posted on 06/03/2010 6:59:40 AM PDT by RoseyT
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To: RoseyT
As I’ve always said, the police aren’t citizens since they aren’t subject to our nation’s laws.
Pathetic.
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posted on
06/03/2010 7:26:00 AM PDT
by
Filo
(Darwin was right!)
To: RoseyT
"The legal justification for arresting the "shooter" rests on existing wiretapping or eavesdropping laws, with statutes against obstructing law enforcement sometimes cited." Absurd. Illogical. Typical Statist protections (liberal / progressive control).
The NEA protects bad teachers through tenure and other means. Incompetent, redundant, or unethical government workers are next to impossible to fire. The UAW protects the lowest quality workers in their ranks versus enforcing a standard of excellence.
Protect your kingdom.
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posted on
06/03/2010 7:26:39 AM PDT
by
uncommonsense
(Conservatives believe what they see; Liberals see what they believe.)
To: RoseyT
In at least three states, it is now illegal to record any on-duty police officer. Completely unconstitutional.
To: RoseyT
Most all-party-consent states also include an exception for recording in public places where "no expectation of privacy exists" (Illinois does not) but in practice this exception is not being recognized. So the public has "surrendered" their right to not be recorded but the police don't. No wonder they don't want cameras in the jails to catch them beating up those arrested.
It's good to be the king.
To: GraceG
Those cameras are “not working” or the tapes are “lost” sometimes when the tapes don’t back up the officers’ stories.
To: RoseyT
“In at least three states, it is now illegal to record any on-duty police officer”
That’s a pretty stupid law. Nice way to alienate your constituents. It’s like passing a law that says you can’t give city councilmen funny looks. Except in that case, the law would encourage less beatings with heavy objects.
To: RoseyT
I just bought a few of these key fob recorders off of ebay. Nine bucks. And that includes shipping.
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posted on
06/03/2010 8:11:56 AM PDT
by
VeniVidiVici
(What's black and white and red all over? - OBAMA)
To: RoseyT
this law violates the exculpatory evidence rule and it flies in the face of laws which ALLOW police to record you if they arrest you how are holding you in custody, or just doing a simple terry stop.
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posted on
06/03/2010 8:19:33 AM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: RoseyT
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posted on
06/03/2010 8:38:06 AM PDT
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: OneWingedShark
Sure looks that way. I enjoyed your “Supreme Law” post. Very Screwtapish!
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posted on
06/03/2010 9:12:03 AM PDT
by
RoseyT
To: RoseyT
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posted on
06/03/2010 9:28:30 AM PDT
by
OneWingedShark
(Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
To: ClearCase_guy
I couldn’t agree more. What part of “Public Servant” do they not understand?
To: ClearCase_guy
I think the age of citizen journalist is upon us ... Video is the new media and the tape will always tell the tale, unless it’s photo shopped.
Heck even our lame stream media could have found the tapes of the flotilla raid, if they had wanted to tell the truth.
I agree mostly with the author, the camera can be as powerful as the gun, just like the pen before it.
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posted on
06/03/2010 4:14:22 PM PDT
by
Tarpon
(Obama-Speak ... the fusion of sophistry and Newspeak. It's not a gift, it's just lies.)
To: GraceG
Whats next, will the congress critters make investigating congress illegal?No need, they alone investigate themselves.
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posted on
06/03/2010 4:17:17 PM PDT
by
itsahoot
(Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
To: Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; Allerious; ...
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posted on
06/03/2010 4:17:40 PM PDT
by
bamahead
(Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
To: RoseyT
If two party consent is required, wouldn’t that prevent police dash cams from recording until the police officer got consent from the citizen being recorded?
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posted on
06/03/2010 4:20:04 PM PDT
by
magellan
To: bike800; GraceG; dznutz
bike800, As GraceG said, (and I wholeheartedly agree) this is just an initial step in protecting the brownshirt police state to come.
I don’t think of the problem being as much what we now call “police” as the problem, so much as will inevitably be the brownshirts to come. I respect the good law enforcement officers, but I increasingly see the deck being stacked, so to speak.
Dznutz, I pinged you because I thought it’s important to bring in all perspectives, if you care to add. I appreciate anything you can add, but know you may be busy. This is only relevant to 3 states for now, but may increasingly involve us all.
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posted on
06/03/2010 4:20:12 PM PDT
by
JDW11235
(I think I got it now!)
To: GraceG
I would say that the information our own eyes capture is our own inherent right It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the law, guilty or not.
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posted on
06/03/2010 4:22:43 PM PDT
by
itsahoot
(Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
To: a fool in paradise
Completely unconstitutional. Not until the Court says it is, probably not in our lifetime either.
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posted on
06/03/2010 4:24:23 PM PDT
by
itsahoot
(Each generation takes to excess, what the previous generation accepted in moderation.)
To: RoseyT
Of course, if someone hoodlum attacked some innocent person, the police would hope somebody filmed the hoodlum without the hoodlum's consent.
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posted on
06/03/2010 4:24:37 PM PDT
by
magellan
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