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VANITY: Bizarre statement about Pharmas creating & spreading new artificial viruses & diseases
Self | 5/3/10

Posted on 05/03/2010 5:21:40 AM PDT by SilvieWaldorfMD

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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I learned a long time ago that arguing with the truly stupid and/or insane is a waste of my time.


41 posted on 05/03/2010 6:47:16 AM PDT by Melas
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

‘Really? Was it Big Pharma that created the hype or tyrants in government? If it was Big Pharma, where’s the evidence?”

Well the head of the UN group pushing it was heavily invested in the companies producing the vaccine. Obama was heavily invested in some of those same companies. Other power players were/are also invested.

So we have the govt officials declaring the emergency, pushing for mandatory usage of the vaccine, committing their govt to massive expenditures. All while being on the board or major investors of the pharma companies. That pretty much blurs the lines between the two doesn’t it.

“And where’s the evidence that the swine flue was accidentally released?”

The virus came from somewhere, or are you suggesting that govt agencies can play with these kinds of materials and never ever have an accidental release? Lotta faith you have there.


42 posted on 05/03/2010 6:53:34 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: piytar

My point being we know for a fact that governments will conduct medical testing on their populace. Russia, China, Germany, North Korea and Japan have done it. The US has done it as well although not to the scale those countries have. The US (our govt) did radiological testing using military, they’ve done bio and chem testing using military, they’ve done syphilis testing using blacks. Our govt also excused numerous WWII war criminals from their actions in order to gain their knowledge.

We know the leftists consider the individual life unimportant. We know they have access to the power, money, processes, and materials to do something like this. We also know they push eugenics, abortion, euthanasia, and other policies which encourage a high death rate.

Since the early 70’s overpopulation has been listed as their main concern. Hillary Clinton spoke about the problem of overpopulation a couple years ago.

Take a look at the vaccine for HPV. The death rate from the vaccine is higher than the disease it is meant to prevent. Yet pharma and govt officials have no problem working together to push it on our children. Making it mandatory in some places.


43 posted on 05/03/2010 7:02:56 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Well, I never shove aside a hypothesis, until I am sure of it being untrue....

Otherwise, I would have automatically believed that Obama is the Messiah, that he loves America and liberty, that he's probably straight, and that he acts in the bests interests of the middle class -- since that is the mantra the MSM has fed us -- and it seems that 47% of people in the US believe these things, period.

So, call me crazy, but I'm not writing off anything....

44 posted on 05/03/2010 7:09:13 AM PDT by elk
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To: DBrow
Post 11. After that you have to go to NIH website and sign in to get the genetic sequence.
45 posted on 05/03/2010 7:23:23 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you can read this you are the resistance.)
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To: tiki
Yes and H1N1 was hyped beyond reason.
46 posted on 05/03/2010 7:25:13 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you can read this you are the resistance.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

There is a conspiracy theory that big pharma has a cure for cancer, but has kept it hidden from the public. Such rubbish.


47 posted on 05/03/2010 7:38:00 AM PDT by Perdogg (Nancy Pelosi did more damage to America on 03/21 than Al Qaeda did on 09/11)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Matches the genomics I have archived pretty well.

And you claim that there are “unnatural” sequences here? Most of the stuff is “standard” influenza code with some changes in the most labile portions, and some inclusions from the host. HM145748 is different because of the antiviral resistance mutation, but the mutation was found in the field, not a lab. BLAST can compare sequences pretty quickly. The PCR primers are likewise unremarkable.

But, if you think that the published sequences prove that the current H1N1 virus was manmade, why waste your time here? Proof like this belongs with WHO, UN, World Court, the New York times.

Go public with your proof! Think of the innocent lives lost by your inaction!


48 posted on 05/03/2010 7:41:03 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

I should tell this to my Chemtrail buddy.


49 posted on 05/03/2010 7:42:33 AM PDT by mowowie
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To: driftdiver
I was agreeing with you. Also agree with the points you made here.

The key phrases are "we know for a fact that ,governments will conduct medical testing on their populace" and "leftists consider the individual life unimportant." Focus on "government" and "leftists." For example, the whole point of the Tuskegee travesty was to "justify treatment programs for blacks." See www.cdc.gov/tuskegee/timeline.htm

In other words, it was all to justify government programs.

Now, is it beyond the realm of possible that pharmas do similar things? Of course nor. It's almost certain that this has happened. However, nowhere near on the scale of governments and leftists justifying government programs.

Another propaganda win for the left is that after the government carried out the Tuskegee experiments, they've successfully managed to shift the blame to "evil" capitalist pharmas and placed themselves as the protectors. Sadly, the left is very good at this sort of polical jujistu. Look at the housing mess for an economic example.

All that said, I think we're on the same page here.

50 posted on 05/03/2010 7:59:11 AM PDT by piytar (Ammo is hard to find! Bought some lately? Please share where at www.ammo-finder.com)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD

Why would you argue with a crazy person?


51 posted on 05/03/2010 8:11:04 AM PDT by dangerdoc
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To: DBrow
It has been made public by several bios in several countries and it dies immediately.

As far as the construct of the virus. The bios I know have told me that there are two places where segments are connected that were spliced using lab technology. This DOES not occur naturally.

52 posted on 05/03/2010 9:09:17 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you can read this you are the resistance.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Can you show me the errant sections?


53 posted on 05/03/2010 9:51:01 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Perdogg
There is a conspiracy theory that big pharma has a cure for cancer, but has kept it hidden from the public. Such rubbish.

I don't believe they have one but I also don't believe they are even working on one. They are working on drugs to control it, contain it but they have no desire to discover a cure because they won't make as much money from a cure as they would from a drug to manage it.

54 posted on 05/03/2010 11:54:58 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Freedom of the Press?! I need Freedom FROM THE PRESS!)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Thorazine
55 posted on 05/03/2010 11:56:18 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("I can see November from my house!")
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To: DBrow

Yes, but not form this computer. I will do it later whne at the “other” location.


56 posted on 05/03/2010 1:31:39 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (If you can read this you are the resistance.)
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To: SilvieWaldorfMD
Here ya go:

http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html

Baxter accidentally distributed a flu vaccine around the world that was contaminated with bird flu not too long ago. There are other news sources and details to this event if you google it.


Through a google search, you can also find articles on one of the biggies at WHO, who made the swine flu vaccine decision, was heavily invested (or got a kickback) for promoting that global policy of hysteria, pandemic and vaccines. He's being investigated for conflict of interest. I think he resigned from his UN position.

There is no doubt that terrorism and anti-human water melon wackos present real problems/risks for big pharma. The ones who believe the corporations are in this for only money and would infect populations for money...that sounded totally nutty to me. But that was before I watched the bankster “citizens of the world” indulge in an unethical global shakedown scam. And Algore’s climategate shakedown... And the AMA pushing for Obamacare...

I don't think we are in Kansas anymore.

57 posted on 05/03/2010 6:09:08 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: mad_as_he$$

And there is no “Smoking pig”.

General Honore said on TV in the beginning of the swine H1N1 pandemic something about it may have been manmade.


58 posted on 05/03/2010 6:12:38 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: mad_as_he$$

China has bioweapons labs in Guangdong. And access to H5N1 since it’s all over the place in SE Asia. And they consistently lie and hide about whatever is going on in China in this regard.


59 posted on 05/03/2010 6:17:48 PM PDT by little jeremiah (http://lifewurx.com - Good herb formulas made by a friend)
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To: driftdiver

I don’t trust the gov at all. I don’t doubt they push an agenda and pocket some money while doing so. I don’t think that necessarily means that everyone they manipulate for their power and money is complicit.

Big Pharma includes over a hundred companies that I’m familiar with. I was just trying to weed out the sweeping generalizations from strict accusation and information.


60 posted on 05/03/2010 6:21:25 PM PDT by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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