Poor Corporal Klinger - He's stuck for the duration ....
Posted on 02/27/2010 9:46:30 AM PST by Maelstorm
If homosexuals are allowed to serve in the military, they will be recruiting in the showers, having sex in the barracks, and straights will undergo sensitivity training. Before long, the U.S. may be defended by the sex-obsessed and those who can tolerate kowtowing to them.
These are the truths that no one will speak.
Forget about ‘Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell’ (DADT). The issue is NOT about whether those engaging in homosexual sex are, or are not, asked about their ‘sexual preferences.’ The real issue is whether the federal law against sodomy in the armed forces will be abolished either by statute or practice. If the law is abolished, not only will there be open homosexual sex in the barracks, but regulations against hostility to it will be enforced with vigor.
Of course, almost no one else is saying these things. So how can FRI be sure they are true?
It is the ‘nature’ of most homosexuals to ‘do their thing’ — and the more public the better. This characteristic has been noted throughout history. Sex, to the homosexually addicted, is close to the be-all and end-all of life. Why else have 300,000 male homosexuals died of AIDS, even though the mechanism — penile-anal sex — has been known since 1983? Why else do so many homosexuals engage in public sex? Why are there ‘gay pride’ parades?
How else to explain Adam Lambert? Instead of becoming just another rich ‘star,’ on November 22, he performed at the American Music Awards, broadcast on ABC. During his number, he proceeded to grind one of his dancer’s faces into his pelvis, grab the crotch of another, and passionately kiss his male keyboardist1. That “performance is something I’m extremely proud of and I wouldn’t change a thing. I am glad it facilitated a conversation about what kind of double standards there are out there.”
The risks homosexuals pose for the military are evident in an interview we recently conducted with a woman in basic training. Homosexuals are sensing that whining and complaining about their lack of rights, along with sheer persistence, are about to win them the prize. Homosexuals may care about protecting the country, but that care is almost always trumped by their homosexual compulsions. See if you can identify the compulsive behavior in the following interview recorded February 1-2, 2010. The female enlistee we spoke with was recalling her 2009 experiences in Basic Training:
Woman: “My experiences in BCT and AIT with homosexuals was and is awkward! Of course at first I didn’t know who was lesbian and who wasn’t, so I didn’t think much of who I was showering with. Then, noticing that they were looking at me a little too much made things clear as to their preferences.
“It was uncomfortable in so many ways. When your only choice is to shower in very close quarters with 60 other females, it is already embarrassing enough. Add that over half of them are lesbians, and you end up with very difficult feelings. It is like I was showering with 40 males staring at me and making comments. That isn’t acceptable for males to do to females in the military, so it shouldn’t be for females to do to each other!
“Living with them and changing clothes near them made me self conscious and uncomfortable. The ‘don’t ask don’t tell’ policy is practically void because everyone tells. You don’t even have to ask. What made it worse was when males talked about our bodies — things that the homosexual females had told them…. having a female whistle at you is not appreciated!”
Comment: If young men and women showered together, dressed together, etc. — how much ‘serious business’ could be accomplished? The answer is the same as to why single-sex schools generally produce better learning. When you are on ‘sexual alert’ you spend energy avoiding or seeking sexual attention. The military is focused on smashing and killing enemies. Given the age of most soldiers, sexual interest is necessarily ‘along for the ride,’ but getting trained and doing your job are both compromised by the easy availability of sex (e.g., STDs in WWI disabled almost as many as were wounded).
Dr. Cameron: How many of the women in your group have been discharged or processed for discharge because of homosexuality?
Woman: “Well there were 60 females that I stayed in the same barracks with, and 60 more down the hall. Out of the total 120 females, I know that at least 50 were found to be homosexuals. Many more we weren’t sure about.
“It really depended on what they did openly that determined their punishments. Some that actually got caught in sexual action were chaptered out of the army. A chapter 11 I believe. Others that were caught kissing or hand holding were given company grade article 15’s which gave them 14 days extra duty. The ones that were chaptered ended up even more openly homosexual because they had nothing to lose at that point. The ones that had article 15’s had two different outcomes. The ones that didn’t want to be in [the armed forces] just continued to misbehave so they could get chapter packets. Others really wanted to be in the military so they kept their preferences to themselves. All in all, I would guess that about 20 got chaptered out and 30 had article 15’s. The main problem was that the chapters had to remain in basic training until their packets went through and were approved. So some stayed in for all 12 weeks and caused trouble the entire time.”
Comment: The rates of lesbianism implied by this enlistee are much higher than polls suggesting that about 8% of servicewomen engage in homosexuality. Perhaps this is an anomaly or an unusual unit or training discharges are not counted. Or perhaps this enlistee was speculating without knowing the hard numbers.
Dr. Cameron: Was there any instance or instances of officer (NCO) or otherwise having sex with one or more of these recruits?
Woman: “No one in my company had sexual relations with their NCOs or chain of command. My whole battalion was really squared away. I’m not sure about any of the others.”
Dr. Cameron: Was there any hanky-panky between any of the recruits and officers?
Woman: “No, there was no fraternization between privates and NCOs [non-commissioned officers] in my company but I heard rumors about it in another company. That wasn’t homosexual, though. The private was given UCMJ action for her conduct and did not graduate. The drill sergeant did not accept her offers.”
Dr. Cameron: Were you approached to participate in lesbian activities?
Woman: “I was approached several times by lesbians who wanted me to participate in their nonsense. Of course, I immediately reported that back to my drill sergeant. I do think you need to know that the cadre at basic training did everything they could do to stop the homosexuals and they gave us frequent briefings on harassment and homosexuality and how it was not acceptable. My platoon’s drill sergeant was our company’s EO and she was always doing all she could to help those of us that were being pressured.”
Comment: Right and left lesbians were being warned, disciplined, and discharged. Yet they almost all persisted. Homosexual sex overwhelms rationality, overwhelms the desire to serve, and pushes aside a sense of propriety and scale. Other Testimony
The Washington Post2, ‘campaigning’ as it were for homosexuality, led a recent story with the tale of a 26-year-old male homosexual. He admitted ‘dating’ another soldier in the combat arms battalion — that is, he was breaking military law against sodomy. Yet this homosexual bragged that he “won hearts and minds among my brothers in arms because I did my job well and went above and beyond. I was respected.” The Post story did not suggest his mates knew he was sodomizing another soldier — who knows what they would have thought if they knew? But the Post rhapsodized that:
“Underground gay communities have emerged at bases across the United States and even in war zones. In Iraq, one e-mail group maintained by gay troops includes a database where soldiers post their instant-messaging screen names and the base where they’re stationed. Dozens have profiles on gay dating sites, some posing in uniform.”
What are these ‘communities’ for other than illegal homosexual sex? Why would the Washington Post — self-proclaimed guardian of Washington — praise disruptive lawlessness?
Randy Shilts, acclaimed historian of the gay movement (he died of AIDS at 42), lauded similar single-minded lawlessness.3 But in one incident he placed the ‘fun and games’ at the Pentagon:
“In the bathroom on corridor 6, just inside the five-acre central courtyard, men literally stood in line outside the stalls during the lunch hour, waiting their turn to engage in some hanky-panky.” (p. 184)
Assuming Shilts was reporting accurately, these homosexuals were apparently on the job. Yet they were so consumed with sex that they stood in line waiting their turn to engage in sodomy. Do heterosexuals do this? Not many in FRI’s experience. If homosexuals can’t control themselves at the Pentagon, what happens when the bullets fly, or during the many hours of ‘down time’ in training, traveling, waiting for orders, etc? [Re-read the interview with the female enlistee above.]
President Obama is pushing for a change that no ‘third party’ reports would be permitted to lead to dismissal of homosexual service personnel — effectively repealing the current federal law against sodomy in the armed forces. Thus, if two homosexuals have sex in the shower — as long as one of them doesn’t complain (and that is unlikely) — it will be considered ‘OK.’ The woman we interviewed could still report being ‘hit on,’ but she would not be able to object if three gals had sex next to her in their bunk. Would she have the right to complain if they also engaged in the grunts and groans homosexuals like to make in their parades, or would she merely put herself in line for more sensitivity training?
How many ‘straights’ want to serve under conditions where homosexual sex — in public or semi-private — is protected, but heterosexual sex is not? Some, perhaps. But many would simply not sign up or would leave. When the dust settles, who will end up defending the U.S.? How many will be left besides homosexuals and those who can tolerate being around them? Conclusion
Given the foregoing testimony, does it make sense to let homosexuals serve openly or otherwise in the armed forces?
To homosexuals, it makes plenty of sense. Sex would be highly efficient and they would be quartered with any number of potential partners. They would be allowed to ply their compulsion in a veritable ‘candy store.’ And fellow service personnel who gave them grief for their ‘need to be who they are’ would be punished.
For the rest of us? No way. A sex-saturated military would have a hard time getting out of bed, exiting bathrooms and showers, maintaining discipline, etc. No nation can expect to survive that trusts its protection to the sex-obsessed.
1. Macleans.ca, 2/8/10 ↩ 2. Washington Post, 2/10/10 ↩ 3. Shilts R (1993) Conduct Unbecoming: Gays and Lesbians in the U.S. military. NY: St. Martin’s ↩
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>>>Homosexuals usually have as much, or as little, self control as do heterosexuals.<<<
I can only vouch for my own experience with the gay community in Eugene, Oregon, and what I saw with my own eyes as a young man in the 1980s.
The difference between homosexual and heterosexuals is that those of us who are heterosexuals have to deal with women. Even in Eugene, where the sexual fling was not an uncommon experience, a large percentage of the female population generally choose serial monogamy or the occasional one-night stand as a way of expressing themselves sexually. Dealing with women requires compromise and self-control.
On the other hand, I lived at a house rented by a gay man who was popular in the gay community. I’d estimate that he had several hundred partners during the year or so I lived at that residence. In addition, I was in the theater community for a long while, and the sexual escapades of the gay men were legendary.
The reason is simple. Men and women approach each other with different needs, at the core of which is the creation and raising of children, and that requires, at the least, a little choosiness, usually done by the woman.
In fact, even the lesbians I knew - and I knew lots - tended to pair off and practice serial monogamy. The gay men were, by far, the biggest sluts I’ve ever seen.
That’s because gay male sex essentially boils down to mutual masturbation, and I don’t need to go further down this road but to say that it’s a common male practice, and finding a friend to help would only be appreciated. No need for self-control at all.
Postscript: And most of those gay men are now dead from AIDS.
The writer is correct. Bringing homosexuality openly into the military will cause enormous disruption. It is different from hetereosexuality, too.
Actually the promoters of the homo-nazi agenda want the military weakened, it’s a two-fer for them. Promoting homosexuality, *and* weaken the military.
I do not see this as inevitable. I foresee turmoil that will cause a shift in the direction we (as a country) are on.
Why did your fellow Marines think they couldn’t say anything about the pervert? He could and should have been reported.
Of course he is. You haven’t read all the stuff on FR? At best he’s bisexual.
The voice of experience.
You are wrong, homosexuals are much more prone to sexual misconduct of all kinds, are more promiscuous, more prone to “domestic partner abuse”, STDs, violence and the like.
You are the non-conservative promoting the homo-nazi agenda.
And if you get caught, you get punished.
You think they'll still be able to punish homo sex it this gets passed?
I mean, haveing homo sex in the barracks is a right, right?
They're are still not legally allowed to serve, if they ooze out of the closet they get tossed.
The Pink Swastika
The Homosexual Roots of the Nazi Party
The Divided Movement
This was not the last time homosexual leadership of the Nazis would attack other ideologically dissimilar homosexuals. . .
If “don’t ask don’t tell” is abolished, then our military will be finished, and then so too the country.
Hell, we’re finished anyway....
A sodomy-friendly military is a good argument for mass resignations and mass desertions.
Bulls—t!
The British Ministry of Defense concluded that allowing gays to serve there had created no erosion of unit cohesion or military effectiveness. The U.K. is one of 25 countries that allow gays to openly serve in their armed forces. Among the others are Canada, Israel, Germany and France. In 1993, then-Defense Secretary Les Aspin, who pushed for Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell as a compromise for President Clinton — he wanted an outright ban on discrimination of gays in the military — said that “we have no evidence that homosexual soldiers are less capable or more prone to misconduct than heterosexual soldiers,” and that “homosexuals have served with distinction in the armed forces of the United States.”
I call Godwins Law. homo-Nazi indeed.
All you have to do is talk to the troops themselves to realize what a big mistake allowing homosexuals would be. Marine Lt Matthew Sanchez wrote a great article for WND about the devastating effects: http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=71732
Poor Corporal Klinger - He's stuck for the duration ....
Spoke with a young man who served in Iraq. He stated that most people could figure out who was what. Also, mentioned that a large portion of the female service persons ‘had an over allotment of testosterone.’
He seemed to think it wasn’t as much of a problem, unless people acted flagrantly.
Can’t help but think if a gay guy was looking over a hetero guy in the shower, he’d be very likely to get the crap beaten out of him. Not so sure the women would do the same, even if they were made very uncomfortable from repeated staring sessions.
So if they go openly gay, do they put the homosexual of one group in with the hetero of the other? What of those who go both ways.
It’s way too complicated!
You are the one full of lies.
The Nazis were not only larded with homosexuals but the inner circle were actually fueled by perversion. Plus, the use of governmental FORCE is the only thing fuelling the homosexual agenda - that and indoctrination especially in the schools, Both tactics used by fascists and communists.
I don’t care if you a military vet or lying about it - on the internet no one knows who you are.
If you like homosexuals in the military, take it up with Jim Robinson. He’s made it clear that FR is not a forum for pushing perversion, epeically in the military.
Read this and inform youself, but you probably will refuse to do so:
http://www.defendthefamily.com/pfrc/books/pinkswastika/html/the_pinkswastika_4th_edition_-_final.htm
“The Pink Swastika” online, above.
And how about this list of diseases common to homosexuals? You want that in the military? What to speak of the fact that people IN the military do not want homosexuals cheek by jowl...
Here’s a list posted by Grampa Dave, who worked in the medical field for many years and saw this first hand.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2455408/posts?page=1064#1064
Being infected by maggots is probably a minimal infectious problem with the gays who have sex in areas where fecal matter passes and use illegal drugs on a regular basis.
Below is a list of the terrible and deadly infectious diseases the gay life style and suicidal mentality brings about. This list was compiled by the UC Medical Center San Francisco:
http://www.ucsfhealth.org/adult/medical_services/infect/hiv/infections.html
HIV/AIDS
Infections Associated with AIDS
Because people with AIDS have weakened immune systems, they’re more prone to infections, called opportunistic infections. Opportunistic infections are caused by organisms that typically don’t cause disease in healthy people but affect people with damaged immune systems. These organisms attack when there’s an “opportunity” to infect.
Deterioration of the immune system is caused by the decline in CD4+ T cells, which are key infection fighters. As soon as HIV enters the body, it begins to destroy these cells.
Many opportunistic infections associated with AIDS cause serious illness. Some may be prevented. Below is a list of infections and how they affect the body.
Brain
Cryptoccoccal Menigitis — This is a yeast-like fungus infection that usually involves the brain and lungs, although it can affect almost any organ. The fungus that causes this condition is found in soil throughout the world. It is most common in soil contaminated by bird droppings. This disease is most often occurs when a person’s CD4+ T cell count falls below 100 cells per cubic millimeter of blood.
HIV-related Encephalopathy — Encephalopathy is a term for diseases that alter brain function or structure, leading to problems with cognitive function, or mental processes, and memory. In people with HIV and AIDS, encephalopathy is usually caused by an infectious agent, such as a bacteria, virus or prion. Encephalopathy most often occurs when a person’s CD4+T cell count falls below 50 cells per cubic millimeter of blood. Toxoplasma-seropositive patients who have a CD4+T cell count of less than 100 cells per cubic millimeter of blood should be treated with prophylaxis to prevent developing encephalopathy.
Progressive Multifocal Leukoencephalopathy (PML) —
Progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy (PML) is a rare disorder of the nervous system caused by a common human polyomavirus, JC virus. It leads to the destruction of the myelin sheath that covers nerve cells. The myelin sheath is the fatty covering that acts as an insulator on nerve fibers in the brain. Symptoms include mental deterioration, vision loss, speech disturbances, inability to coordinate movements, paralysis and ultimately coma. In rare cases, seizures may occur. This disease can occur when the CD4+T cell count falls below 200 cells per cubic millimeter of blood.
Toxoplasmosis — This condition occurs when a parasite infects the brain. Symptoms include confusion or delusional behavior, severe headaches, fever, seizures and coma. It can affect the eye, causing eye pain and reduced vision and is most likely occurs when the CD4+ T cell count falls below 100 cells per cubic millimeter of blood. Preventative treatment — usually with trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazole, also called Septra and Bactrim — may be administered when the CD4+ T cell count falls below 100 cells per cubic millimeter of blood.
Cytomegalovirus (CMV) — Although this virus can affect the entire body, it commonly affects the eye’s retina, causing blurry vision and in severe cases, blindness. Other common symptoms include chronic diarrhea and nerve problems. It is most likely to occur when a person’s CD4+ T cell count falls below 100 cells per cubic millimeter of blood.
Gastrointestinal Tract
Cryptosporidiosis — This is a parasite that can cause chronic diarrhea. Other symptoms include stomach cramps, nausea, fatigue, weight loss, appetite loss, vomiting and dehydration. This infection is difficult to treat and there is no definitively effective treatment. Symptom control and treatment of HIV are necessary.
Cytomegalovirus — Although this virus can affect the entire body, it commonly occurs in the stomach, causing fever, diarrhea and stomach pain. It most likely occurs when the CD4+ T cell count falls below 50 cells per cubic millimeter of blood.
Mycobacterium Avium Complex — This is a bacterial infection that can cause persistent fever, night sweats, fatigue, weight loss, anemia, abdominal pain, dizziness, diarrhea and weakness. The bacteria that cause this infection is found in water, dust, soil and bird droppings. This disease most likely occurs when the CD4+T cell count falls below 50 cells per cubic millimeter of blood. Preventive treatment, usually with azithromycin, is administered when CD4+ T cells are less than 50 cells per cubic millimeter of blood.
Genitals
Candidiasis — Candidiasis is an infection caused by the candida fungi. Also known as a yeast infection, it’s the most common HIV-related fungus infection. It can affect the entire body, but most commonly occurs in the mouth, called thrush, or vagina. An overgrowth of yeast in the vagina can cause irritation, itching, burning and thick white discharge.
Herpes Simplex — This virus causes genital herpes, which are painful blisters in the genital area, or cold sores. Severe conditions are more common in the advanced stage of AIDS.
Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) — This condition is considered the most common sexually transmitted disease (STD) in the United States. It can cause warts on the anus, cervix, esophagus, penis, urethra, vagina and vulva. Studies have shown that certain types of HPV can contribute to the development of cervical and anal cancer. Individuals with HIV and AIDS are at increased risk for developing precancerous and cancerous lesions.
Liver
Liver Disease — Liver disease is one of the leading causes of death among AIDS patients, especially liver disease caused by the hepatitis B and hepatitis C virus. Many drugs used in the treatment of HIV and AIDS can cause liver disease or hepatitis. It is important that patients infected with hepatitis receive treatment and follow-up care.
Lungs
Coccidiomycosis — This infection is caused by inhaling an infective fungus called Coccidioides immitis, found mainly in contaminated soil in the southwestern United States, Mexico, Central America and parts of South America. The lungs are the most commonly affected by this infection. In severe cases, it can involve the kidneys, lymph system, brain and spleen. Symptoms include cough, weight loss and fatigue. Meningitis is a common complication when left untreated.
Histoplasmosis — This infection almost always involves the lungs, although other organs may be affected. The fungus that causes this condition is found in southern parts of the United States and South America. It is usually found in soil contaminated with bird droppings and must be inhaled to cause infection. Signs and symptoms include high fever; weight loss; respiratory complaints; an enlarged liver, spleen, or lymph nodes; depressed production of white cells, red blood cells and platelets from the bone marrow; and life-threatening, unstable, low blood pressure.
Pneumocystis Carinii — This condition occurs when a fungus infects the lungs. Symptoms may include fever, cough, difficulty breathing, weight loss, night sweats and fatigue. It is most likely to occur when the CD4+ T cell count falls below 200 cells per cubic millimeter of blood. Preventative treatment may be administered when the CD4+ T cell count falls below 200 cells per cubic millimeter of blood. Treatment is usually trimethoprim-sulfamethoxazole, also called Septra or Bactrim, dapsone or atovoquone.
Recurrent Pneumonia — People with AIDS are at risk for recurrent bacterial pneumonia. Bacteria can infect the lungs, which may lead to problems ranging from a mild cough to severe pneumonia. Recurrent pneumonia is most likely to occur when the CD4+ T cell count falls below 200 cells per cubic millimeter of blood.
Tuberculosis (TB) — This is a serious, and often deadly, bacterial infection that primarily infects the lungs. TB is transmitted when a person with active TB coughs or sneezes, releasing microscopic particles into the air. If inhaled, these particles may transmit the condition. Once infected by TB, most people remain healthy and develop only latent infection. People with latent infection are neither sick nor infectious. However, they do have the potential to become sick and infectious with active TB. It can occur at any CD4+ T cell level but especially when the CD4+ T cell count falls below 350 cells per cubic millimeter of blood.
Lymphatic System
Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma — Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma is a disease in which tumors develop from white blood cells in the lymphatic system. It is another common disease associated with AIDS.
Mouth and Throat
Candidiasis — This is the most common HIV-related fungus infection. It can affect the entire body, but most commonly occurs in the mouth (thrush) or vagina. An overgrowth of yeast causes white patches on gums, tongue or lining of the mouth, pain, difficulty in swallowing and loss of appetite. Candida in the esophagus, trachea, bronchi, or lungs is AIDS defining.
Skin
Herpes Simplex — This virus causes cold sores or genital herpes, which are painful blisters in the genital area. Chronic herpes simplex virus (HSV) lesions and severe mucocutaneous HSV disease are common in the advanced stages of AIDS.
Kaposi’s Sarcoma — This is the most common AIDS-related cancer. It causes reddish purple lesions that usually appear on the skin. They also can appear on the lymph nodes, mouth, gastrointestinal tract and lungs.
Shingles — Shingles are caused by a reactivation of the chicken-pox virus. It may cause a painful rash or blisters that follow the path of nerves.
============================================================Besides being walking/deadly viral/fungal/bacterial suicide bombers, AIDS patients are one of the reasons our health care costs are climbing.
PS - the UK is now in the toilet due to acceptance of moral “relativity” and a huge Muslim population. They’re finito, over, kaput. I don’t think too many conservatives are anxious to follow that path to national destruction.
Thank you.
Heh, heh, heh, always a clown in the crowd.
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