Posted on 01/15/2010 5:11:40 AM PST by wendy1946
I pretty much had to see Avatar despite major kinds of ideological misgivings...
Aside from anything else, I had a funny sort of a feeling of deja-vu watching the thing. A small, innocent, naive, and spiritually oriented nation of some kind has something which some sort of a great power wants, and some ultimate high-tech military organization gets turned loose on them... Where have I heard that story before?? I mean, the only thing wrong with the analogy was that the Pandorans in the film weren't really getting ****ed over badly enough for the analogy to really work. For instance, they didn't get any petrochemical plants (like Pancevo) bombed out so as to dump hundreds of tons of toxic chemicals into their most major river or have their entire civilian infrastructure bombed out...
It occurs to me that somebody needs to make a movie about the Kosovo operation and tell this hideous story to the American public; they've never really heard the story.
It starts with environmental whackos shutting down every sort of oil drilling or refining operation in the great power for 40 years and the great power's rulers wanting to appease the geriatric lunatic ruler of Saudi Arabia, who wants the sacred heart of the innocent small nation as a toehold for Islam in Southern Europe. That could be scene one.
Scene two could show a perverted psychopath of some sort being elected president of the great power and subsequently needing to take credible allegations of rape and sales of nuclear weapon secrets to the Chinese off of newspaper headlines. Scene two could also show 30 general officers leaving the great power's military and being replaced by people more in tune with the times...
Scene three could show the American and NATO militaries trying to bomb Kosovo from 25,000' for three or four weeks before realizing that they could not harm the small country's military from Earth orbit. It could then show the psychopath general in charge of the operation determining to embark upon an entire campaign of war crimes, bombing out the entire civilian infrastructure of the small country.
Somewhere in the film early on, you'd have to show the myriad Orthodox churches and monasteries in the disputed territory, and the simple beauty of the religion they represented, and you'd have to show the animalistic nature of the people which the great power was using as faux victims in the propaganda war it was using to justify the operation..
You'd have to show the damage caused by the operation...
Such a film would have to devote at least two or three minutes to the case of Milica Rakic:
At three years of age when she was killed by a NATO/KKKlintonista bomb hundreds of kilometers from anything remotely resembling a legal military target, Milica likely has the dubious distinction of being SlicKKK KKKlinton's youngest female victim. The other image you see of Milica:
indicates that she has since become a martyr of the Orthodox church. The film should say something about that putting both KKKlintons and the entire group of people responsible for the operation into the history books on the same page as the people who burned Joan of Arc. The movie should also say something about Sanja Milenkovic.
The movie would also have to show the albanian "kosovars" driving everybody else out of the province and destroying all of the 1400 churches and monasteries, and then turning the place into the crime hub of Southern Europe, drugs, human trafficking, stolen vehicles and what not, and you'd have to show the connection between the KLA and Al Quaeda.
I mean, the American public really needs to see this story and it may actually be that a movie would be the best possible way for that to happen. Russia at least has a film-making industry and you wouldn't have to destroy anything which hadn't already been destroyed in order to make such a film, the war operation scenes could be largely made from archive film like Victory at Sea was.
Are there any good(and Honest) Books on this subject? I want to know what really happened. The silence of the MSM on this subject is enough to suspect the worst!
“All the guy ever needed to do was mouth four simple words, I oppose the bailout, and hed be president today, simple as that.”
Bingo, Wendy, we have a winner!!!
I always felt that McCain’s decision to interrupt the campaign, return to DC and attend to the crisis...yet all he did was sit around a table and acquiesce...was the death of his chances at being elected. It was the biggest blunder for the littlest buss I have ever seen.
What ever happened to these Pilots? Would any of them talk today to report to the American people what really happened in Kosovo?
Great idea. Do you have Mel Gibson’s email address?
It's even worse than that...
The prize of Klinton's dog-wagging episodes was dog-wag III (to take the Broaddrick story off the front pages) , in which a totally innocent Slavic Orthodox Christian nation was bombed into the stone age for the benefit of white trash, narco-terrorists, and barbarians. I mention the fact that Serbia is a Slavic Orthodox Christian nation because Russia is also a Slavic Orthodox Christian nation, i.e. because this third dog-wagging episode involved the risk of a thermonuclear war. Any serious research into this one will reveal that the Western public was fed an unadulterated diet of BS from the NATO propaganda organ, the Clinton spin machine, and a shiftless Western establishment media which simply included the propaganda on its pages and called it news rather than doing any real reporting. Moreover, the entire picture of the situation in the Balkans which the West has seen in its media over the last decade is rendered hugely suspect since it arises from the same kinds of sources. Any sort of a thorough research will turn up the reality that the whole problem in Kosovo was always the Albanian Kosovars and not the Serbs. The present problems seemingly began with Miloshevich rescinding the autonomy of the region in 1989. The truth is that he had no options, and that all other ethnic groups in Kosovo were being brutalized by the Albanian Kosovars: http://www.srpska-mreza.com/ddj/Kosovo/articles/Binder87NYT.htm Further readings and articles from the 80's tell much the same story: http://members.tripod.com/~sarant_2/ksm.html What about before that? The truth is that, despite the endless villification and demonization which they come in for from the Clinton spin machine and the NATO propaganda arm, the Serbs are the closest thing there is to normal, rational, decent people in the balkans. They fought with the allies in WW-II and in fact held Hitler for seven months and sent him into Russia in the dead of winter rather than on schedule, but for which the whole world might be sporting swastikas now. They in fact saved 500 allied airmen who were shot down on raids over Ploesti and other targets in the region: http://www.srpska-mreza.com/library/facts/antiFascists.html Needless to say, any allied airman who was ever shot down over one of the states surrounding Serbia was killed. The states surrounding Serbia all sided with Hitler, e.g.: http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/thompson/rootsof.htm The Serbs paid a horrific price for all of this. Hundreds of thousands of them were murdered, many in Nazi-style death camps set up in the surrounding states. Nonetheless, history does not count for much amongst gangsters. Clinton and his NWO pals had numerous reasons for wishing to dismantle Yugoslavia, not the least of which was the 5 - 20 trillion in mineral wealth of the Trepca mines. Check out: www.tenc.net for background materials on that sort of topic. The "Racak massacre" which Clinton and Albright used as a pretext for the NATO action turns out to be more propaganda BS: http://www.emperors-clothes.com/analysis/meetmr.htm and the Rambouillet ultimatum, particularly Appendix B, section 8, which the Serbs refused to sign, turns out to look like something which King George might have written. No nation on Earth would ever sign off on such a thing: http://www.state.gov/www/regions/eur/ksvo_rambouillet_text.html It turns out that the entire case against Serbia was never anything but a bunch of bullshit. There was never any "ethnic cleansing" going on: http://www.iraqwar.org/germanreport.htm and there was never anything remotely like genocide going on: http://www.counterpunch.org/biglie.html nothing but a bunch of fabricated bullshit and a bunch of poor sorry people (Serbs) having to defend themselves against an armed insurrection supported and supplied by outside powers. The laws of war have changed substantially since the end of WW-II. The kinds of things we were doing to the Japanese and Germans, legal then, would be war crimes now. In the Kosovo operation, American forces knew that they had a tough and dangerous adversary to deal with and they knew that they also were doing this for an utterly base and ignoble cause which they could not possibly ask any NATO pilot to die for, and that dog-wagging was again involved. They therefore limited all operations to 15,000 feet or higher. When they discovered that they could not harm the Serbian military from that height, they embarked upon an entire series of war crimes, such as bombing out bridges in the middle of little towns like Varvarin in the middle of the day when, guaranteed, nothing was going to be on them other than people like Sanja Milenkovic running errands. It thus comes as no surprise that even Amnesty International is accusing NATO of war crimes now. Aside from that, they began to bomb out the entire civilian infrastructure of Serbia, including factories, water plants, electrical grids, and basically everything the civilian population of Serbia needs to stay alive. That's all criminal activity. Walter Rockler, a surviving American prosecutor from the Nuremberg trubunal, claims that NATO is every bit as guilty of war crimes as the nazis were: http://www.counterpunch.org/rockler.html Other major kinds of indictments of Clinton, Albright, Blair, Cohen, Clark, and the other clintonistas and NATO leaders involved in this debacle are not difficult to find on the internet.
I’ll see if I can find it...
You are most welcome!
Sad that it ever was an issue to begin with.
Truth in Media: use left scroll sidebar to scroll down to “Nato’s Kosovo War and ‘Peace’”... lots of images from that “war” - Serb decoys, the bombed bridges and a whole lot more.
“Weaselly” Clark would use his considerable influence to shut them up - even with terminal prejudice.
I heard that "Media Lies and the Conquest of Kosovo" by Michael Collon is very good. Also "Fool's Crusade: Yugolavia, NATO and Western Delusions" by Diana Johnstone is really good.
There is also a film ,part of which is available online, called "Kosovo, Can You Imagine?" They've run it on Russian TV but not here in the US.
So what did Kossovo or Serbia have that "we" wanted?
LOL!
I admit I don't know much about this but the folks who claim they do and reject the proNATO/US line are pro-communists.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAHyxCyZEjc
This was taken in 2004. Is this film still representative of what is going on today in Kosovo?
If it is, shame on NATO for letting this happen.
Who are those pro communists?
The Trepca mines for one thing... Albania's accent to an oil pipeline through its territory for another, Saudi rulers' desire for a jehadi toehold in southern Europe for another. But the main thing was a way of taking Juanita Broaddrick off the front pages of American newspapers and journals.
Don’t forget the construction of Camp Bondsteel which was planned in advance of the bombing. Also, the bombing of Kosovo made NATO relevant again.
Like I say the pentagon had originally weighed all of the possible rationales for the thing and determined it did not add up to a case for any Western action and advised SlicKKK not to do it.
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