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Weekly Gardening Thread – 2009 Vol.23 – October 23
Free Republic | 10-23-2009 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 10/23/2009 10:55:17 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good afternoon to all of you gardeners. I apologize for the late post today. Well the last days of October are upon us and the garden is finally tilled for the last time this year. I seeded it with an annual rye grass. I also started rebuilding my compost pile. The oak and pecan trees have yet to drop their leaves so I will have to wait for their contribution to the compost pile until November.


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1 posted on 10/23/2009 10:55:17 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...
Ping to the Weekly Gardening Ping List.

I hope all of you will stop by.

This is typically a low volume ping list. Once a week for the thread and every once in a while for other FR threads posted that might be of interest.

If you would like to be added to or removed from the list please let me know by FreepMail or by posting to me.

2 posted on 10/23/2009 10:55:45 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I still have tomatoes and carrots.

Hopefully the winter stuff I planted will do okay.


3 posted on 10/23/2009 10:58:59 AM PDT by Califreak (Obama's Purple Reign must be stopped!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Anyone picking collards yet?


4 posted on 10/23/2009 11:03:58 AM PDT by envisio
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To: Red_Devil 232

10 inches of rain in October, an early frost, and what is left—mud pit and no chance to fall till. 51 quarts of the best salsa ever, canned tomatoes, frozen corn, and more apples now than we can even give away.


5 posted on 10/23/2009 11:04:29 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: Red_Devil 232

We had a freak (as in unexpected) frost earlier this week, the frost warning maps has us very much in the clear, so I didn’t do anything to protect the last of the tomatoes.........SIGH.


6 posted on 10/23/2009 11:05:12 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: envisio

Pickled Collards?.................


7 posted on 10/23/2009 11:05:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Please add me to your ping list for the Gardening Thread.


8 posted on 10/23/2009 11:05:35 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Red Badger

noooo.... Collard greens. I always make a mess of greens a few weeks before Thanksgiving. Then freeze them in vacum bags.
I got the collards myself. My neighbor has room for mustard and turnup greens. I always make at least one batch with all three combined.

My daughter calls it the “good pooping food”


9 posted on 10/23/2009 11:09:46 AM PDT by envisio
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To: afraidfortherepublic

YOU HAVE

ADDED TO THE WEEKLY GARDENING PING LIST

10 posted on 10/23/2009 11:12:22 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: envisio
My daughter calls it the “good pooping food”

Now.........that's just danged funny :)

11 posted on 10/23/2009 11:13:00 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

In before 10? Woohoo!

Weather has been gorgeous but raining now.

No collards picked yet but they are growing beautifully.


12 posted on 10/23/2009 11:13:08 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: Neoliberalnot

Wow! 51 quarts of salsa!


13 posted on 10/23/2009 11:13:51 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Gabz

Didn’t make it before 10. :(

Fat, slow fingers. LOL

We didn’t get frost but it got really cool/close.


14 posted on 10/23/2009 11:14:46 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: envisio

Funny but oh so true! LOL


15 posted on 10/23/2009 11:15:38 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thank you, thank you very much!

Now that I’m “in” may I make a suggestion? It would be ever so helpful if other folks on this board would add the name of their State when making comments about their weather, or whichever task they are planning. That would not be necessary when you are congratulating someone about thheir beautiful flowers, or their great crop. But, when you are adding something about your neck of the woods, it would be helpful to know where you are gardening.

Not every freeper has their state attached to their name.

Sign me: “Gardening in Wisconsin”.

And it’s cold and raining like the dickens here todoay.


16 posted on 10/23/2009 11:20:45 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: gardengirl

Close enough :)

I was not a happy camper when I got up in the morning and found all those blackened vines and transparent yellow maters.


17 posted on 10/23/2009 11:23:10 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

If you don’t want to reveal your State, how about just your Zone?


18 posted on 10/23/2009 11:23:24 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Neoliberalnot

Pshaw, that’s nothing. We had over 9” of rain two nights ago. And most of that came through the ceiling. One guess what we’re doing this weekend.

Oooh, salsa on a piece of toast...


19 posted on 10/23/2009 11:23:31 AM PDT by bgill (The framers of the US Constitution established an entire federal government in 18 pages.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Please add me PING!!

I had a really stinky gardening season this year. I tore a major muscle in my leg right after I got some of my stuff in the ground this spring. Then we had a really wet spring with my strawberries underwater for the most part and me in a cast unable to reach them. After it dried out, everything sprouting baked to a crisp in an early June heatwave. I have had tomatoes and need to get out and start cleaning up after last week's frost.

I've been collecting milk jugs and 2L soda bottles to get ready for my Winter Sowing. I need to prep the containers (burn drainage holes and cut the tops). Maybe look for some end of season potting soil sales. I don't normally plant in my containers until January but I know some who start as early as Dec.

20 posted on 10/23/2009 11:24:02 AM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I’m needing some advice from a northern, or northern midwestern, gardener on Irises. Anybody out there?


21 posted on 10/23/2009 11:25:57 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
And it’s cold and raining like the dickens here todoay.

It's been sunny and in the mid 70s here on the Virginia end of the DelMarVa Peninsula. We had the cold and the rain all of last week.

22 posted on 10/23/2009 11:26:32 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

That cold spell a few weeks ago that got down to 7F put an end to everything I had growing. I planted 8 12 ft rows of 4 varieties of garlic. Got about a foot of mulch on top and shoveled the snow off the deck on top of that so it is under about a foot of snow now. I have many seeds left from last year so I an trying to figure out where to plant to get some crop rotation.


23 posted on 10/23/2009 11:29:30 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Bernard Madoff's ponzi scheme looks remarkably similar to the way Social Security works)
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To: TNdandelion

Please explain further how you are doing “winter sowing”. Do you keep these jugs under a grow light? What are you sowing?

I’m starting a Square Foot Garden for vegetables next spring. I have the boxes built, but no planting mix in them yet because the garden centers are all sold out. It is not safe to plant outdoors here until May. In fact most people plant over Memorial Day around here, although you can do it earlier with protection. It would be nice to have a few seedlings ready to go out mid May.


24 posted on 10/23/2009 11:30:28 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I am in East Central Mississippi.


25 posted on 10/23/2009 11:31:27 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: envisio

Of Turnips, Mustards and Collards, Collards are my least favorite. But ALL are better than spinach or cabbage!.........................


26 posted on 10/23/2009 11:32:35 AM PDT by Red Badger (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I am at 8500 ft elevation in the Colorado Rockies NW of Golden right next to Roosevelt National Forest.


27 posted on 10/23/2009 11:32:40 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Bernard Madoff's ponzi scheme looks remarkably similar to the way Social Security works)
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To: TNdandelion

YOU HAVE

ADDED TO THE WEEKLY GARDENING PING LIST

28 posted on 10/23/2009 11:35:05 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Irises anyone? I need to lift them and add fill underneath in a bed that is too low. They’ll need to be divided, but it’s getting really late in the season. Would they survive the winter if I just dug them up and stored them in the basement in Peat Moss?

Or, should I forget the whole thing and leave them for thel Spring?

If it were 10 degrees colder out there, I’d have 2 feet of snow on that bed right now. It might warm up again, but I have little hope.


29 posted on 10/23/2009 11:35:17 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: bgill
We had over 9” of rain two nights ago. And most of that came through the ceiling. One guess what we’re doing this weekend.

OMG ---- I'm so sorry to hear that.

30 posted on 10/23/2009 11:35:36 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I have a cousin who lives there, but I haven’t seen her in 50 years. (MS)


31 posted on 10/23/2009 11:36:21 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Gabz

My daughter lives in Richmond, VA, but I always think of her weather as much milder than ours. Your report sounds just like what we’ve had the last 2 weeks with a good day sprinkled in here, or there.


32 posted on 10/23/2009 11:38:43 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: MtnClimber

Your location sounds gorgeous. I hope people will post pictures of their views and their gardening successes ove the upcoming weeks.


33 posted on 10/23/2009 11:39:52 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Diana in Wisconsin

Diana will be your go to person for growing in Wisconsin, but I would venture to say that she is probably still at work right now.


34 posted on 10/23/2009 11:40:34 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic; Diana in Wisconsin

I am sure Diana in Wisconsin will stop in at some point and she may be able to help you. Diana is one of the 4 FReeper Master Gardners that regularly visit the thread.


35 posted on 10/23/2009 11:41:10 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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Diana is north-west of me with a bit harsher climate. But, she is a good source. I didn’t now she was into gardening. Thanks.


36 posted on 10/23/2009 11:42:10 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Richmond’s weather tends to be different than ours. I’m slightly northeast as the crow flies from Richmond, but on the other side of the Chesapeake Bay. Both the Bay and the Atlantic effect our weather.

I long ago learned the only thing consistent about DelMarVa weather is its’ inconsistency :)


37 posted on 10/23/2009 11:43:29 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Can you tell us how you do your compost pile? I need to make one for my Square Foot Garden. I'm not getting a lot of help from my husband who is just laughing at my goal to grow vegetables. He thinks that I will let this plot go all to weeds (and he has good reason to think that).

But, I have carefully planned these boxes, and I need a lot of compost for next year. Right now, I have a lot of leaves and grass clippings which would be a good start. But, the snow is coming soon. What happens if it freezes? Will it thaw and continue decomposing in the spring?

38 posted on 10/23/2009 11:45:54 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Sure! With Winter Sowing, you plant in containers and place them directly outside and let "nature" do all the work. No grow lights or heating pads required. Rain, sleet, snow....all good for the seeds and the milk jugs and containers act like little miniature greenhouses.

There are limitations to what you can grow using this method but I'd say that is limited more to tropicals or temperature sensitive plants. I grow mostly tomatoes, peppers, perennials and hardy annuals using my pots outside.

I use my husband's soldering iron to burn the holes and then cut the containers about 3/4's of the way up. Plant the seeds in the potting soil (anything cheap will do), tape the tops back down and leave the screw caps off for air and water to get in. Stick, them in a sunny spot in my backyard and wait for sprouts around March/April. I live in zone 7B.

I'm not good with html code but here's a good website with more info about this technique. http://www.wintersown.org/ I've been doing this for about 3yrs now. I now only grows heirloom tomatoes since I can finally grow them myself. I never had luck with indoor planting, unfortunately. Too many curious kids, dogs, not enough space and my own incompetence. lol

39 posted on 10/23/2009 11:47:42 AM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Here is a photo looking west off the deck from about 2 weeks ago:

10-11-09 James Peak from the deck 3

40 posted on 10/23/2009 11:50:06 AM PDT by MtnClimber (Bernard Madoff's ponzi scheme looks remarkably similar to the way Social Security works)
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To: Gabz

My daughter’s yard grows like gangbusters while the same plants poke along here. She looked at my raised rose garden and pointed at a little piece of ivy that I had planted to trail over the edge of the wall and said, “You didn’t plant that there ON PUROSE, did you?”

I have an Oak Leaf Hydrangea that I have been nursing along for 15 years. It’s about 2 feet high. She has an Oak Leaf Hydrangea that she planted 3 years ago and it covers a whole wall of her house!

Warm weather, rain, and a long growing season will do a lot for a garden!

I get the first to, but not the third. And I’m keeping an eye on that ivy, just in case. ;)


41 posted on 10/23/2009 11:51:08 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: afraidfortherepublic
Check my home page for pictures of my garden this year and last year.

Do a search using the key word - weekly - it will bring up all the thread posted this year. There have been a bunch of pictures post over the past 22 weeks.

42 posted on 10/23/2009 11:51:32 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red Badger

can I have your share of the collards and cabbage, please? I dont get enough of either.


43 posted on 10/23/2009 11:51:54 AM PDT by rightly_dividing
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To: afraidfortherepublic

I’ve done that with my irises. My zone is fairly temperate and I’ve even had some to bloom the same year that I replantd them but there may be a chance that you don’t get blooms until the following year.


44 posted on 10/23/2009 11:51:55 AM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: MtnClimber

That is beautiful.


45 posted on 10/23/2009 11:52:59 AM PDT by TNdandelion (I'd rather have FedEx run my healthcare than USPS.)
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To: TNdandelion

That sounds like a wonderful idea. I might try that myself starting in March and see what happens. Since I have no way to recycle my milk jugs anyway, this will be a good use of them.

I’m in Zone 5B. Just a little west (1-2 miles) of Lake Michigan.


46 posted on 10/23/2009 11:54:29 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: MtnClimber

Your photo is breathtaking! Thanks.


47 posted on 10/23/2009 11:55:20 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Gabz

Sorry! We’ve got a few late plants outside at the garden center. Decided not ot cover them—they were fine.


48 posted on 10/23/2009 11:56:19 AM PDT by gardengirl
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To: bgill

I once lived in a house, or rather shack, for a summer and every time it rained we had to put a 1/2 dozen pans and buckets down to catch the drips. The rodents loved it and would occasionally get in bed with me. I have been poor and don’t want to go back.

Salsa goes with chips, tacos, other mexican dishes, and on eggs, but not toast. Are you Kenyan or kiddin?


49 posted on 10/23/2009 11:59:54 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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To: Red_Devil 232

A food processors saves having to hand-cut and dice the tomatoes, green peppers, onions, halapenos, hot banana peppers, and cilantro. Nevertheless, it is a laborious task that no liberal could ever accomplish—too much work.


50 posted on 10/23/2009 12:01:57 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Freedom's Precious Metals: Gold, Silver and Lead))
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