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Children Who Get Spanked Have Lower IQs
LiveScience.com ^ | 9/24/09 | Jeanna Bryner

Posted on 09/24/2009 7:16:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

Spanking can get kids to behave in a hurry, but new research suggests it can do more harm than good to their noggins. The study, involving hundreds of U.S. children, showed the more a child was spanked the lower his or her IQ compared with others.

"All parents want smart children," said study researcher Murray Straus of the University of New Hampshire. "This research shows that avoiding spanking and correcting misbehavior in other ways can help that happen."

One might ask, however, whether children who are spanked tend to come from backgrounds in which education opportunities are less or inherited intelligence lower.

But while the results only show an association between spanking and intelligence, Straus says his methodology and the fact that he took into account other factors that could be at play (such as parents' socioeconomic status) make a good case for a causal link.

"You can't say it proves it, but I think it rules out so many other alternatives; I am convinced that spanking does cause a slowdown in a child's development of mental abilities," Straus told LiveScience.

Intelligence quotients

Straus and his colleague Mallie Paschall of the Pacific Institute for Research and Evaluation in Maryland studied nationally representative samples of two age groups: 806 children ages 2 to 4, and 704 ages 5 to 9. The researchers tested the kids' IQs initially and then four years later.

Both groups of kids got smarter after four years. But the 2- to 4-year-olds who were spanked scored 5 points lower on the IQ test than those not spanked. For children ages 5 to 9, the spanked ones scored on average 2.8 points lower than their unspanked counterparts.

The results, he said, were statistically significant. .. ..

(Excerpt) Read more at livescience.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Education; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: children; discipline; iq; iqs; junkscience; lower; parenting; spanked; spanking; whataload
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1 posted on 09/24/2009 7:16:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

That’s just cause their parents are dumb.


2 posted on 09/24/2009 7:17:41 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: NormsRevenge

showed the more a child was spanked the lower his or her IQ compared with others.

Then why do I have a high IQ?


3 posted on 09/24/2009 7:18:07 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: NormsRevenge

leftist propaganda.


4 posted on 09/24/2009 7:18:19 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: NormsRevenge; a fool in paradise

I coulda been a contendah!


5 posted on 09/24/2009 7:18:21 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe kids who got spanked less were quick learners.

I got spanked but usually not for the same thing.


6 posted on 09/24/2009 7:18:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Seniors, the new shovel ready project under socialized medicine.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Children Who Get Spanked Have Lower IQs

That's probably why they get spanked you silly duck! It's harder to get their attention.

7 posted on 09/24/2009 7:19:10 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I don't remember Americans being called "racists" when we fought against Hillarycare.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I guess you got whacked with a smarter stick.


8 posted on 09/24/2009 7:19:36 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: NormsRevenge

Crap.

And I speak from experience: kids who got their fannies paddled when appropriate and who top out on those IQ charts.

Loving discipline instills critical thinking, wise decision-making, and good character.


9 posted on 09/24/2009 7:19:46 PM PDT by Jedidah
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To: NormsRevenge

While my father occasionally refused to spare the rod, I did notice as a child that the folks who used to FREQUENTLY beat their kids in public weren’t exactly the classiest folks and were usually from the shallower end of the gene pool.


10 posted on 09/24/2009 7:19:50 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: NormsRevenge

An unspanked child may explore more while the parents who spank often do so because the curious child is getting on their nerves.


11 posted on 09/24/2009 7:20:17 PM PDT by fso301
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To: NormsRevenge

Perhaps their low IQ is why they get spanked so much.


12 posted on 09/24/2009 7:20:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NormsRevenge

My theory is that a stupid kid engages in more behavior that will get him spanked. (Am against spanking and using this to illustrate mistaking correlation for causation.)


13 posted on 09/24/2009 7:20:32 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: NormsRevenge

What a crock. If that was actually the case I’d have never made it out of grade school... Oh, wait... DOH!

Yep! Complete crock of BS. Hell my momma broke so much stuff off my behind (well deservedly) she was single handedly supporting the cookware and wood industries.


14 posted on 09/24/2009 7:21:02 PM PDT by farlander (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: NormsRevenge
Alternate title: Dumb Kids Get Spanked More
15 posted on 09/24/2009 7:21:38 PM PDT by xjcsa (And these three remain: change, hope and government. But the greatest of these is government.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe some of them are suffering brain damage?


16 posted on 09/24/2009 7:22:16 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: NormsRevenge

This is bull. I seldom, if ever, got spanked and I’m dumber than a box of rocks.


17 posted on 09/24/2009 7:22:27 PM PDT by tsmith130
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To: OneWingedShark
showed the more a child was spanked the lower his or her IQ compared with others.

Then why do I have a high IQ?

Same here. This study is pure manure.

18 posted on 09/24/2009 7:22:48 PM PDT by A message (3 years 3 months 3 weeks 4 days until Jim Thompson is President)
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To: xjcsa

I think we have winner riiiight here.


19 posted on 09/24/2009 7:23:01 PM PDT by farlander (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: NormsRevenge

Dang! And to think I coulda been a genius!


20 posted on 09/24/2009 7:23:10 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: NormsRevenge

I got my fair dose of spanking growing up. How come I am so brilliant ?


21 posted on 09/24/2009 7:23:10 PM PDT by libh8er (If Karl Rove is 'turd blossom', Hussein is just turd.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe smart kids figure their parents out ... and prevent spankings.


22 posted on 09/24/2009 7:24:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (When I hear "New York Times"-fair or not -what I hear is "New York Times Whore House"...)
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To: xjcsa
Alternate title: Dumb Kids Get Spanked More

Alternate alternate title: Smart kids are dumb kids spanked into smartness

23 posted on 09/24/2009 7:24:31 PM PDT by libh8er (If Karl Rove is 'turd blossom', Hussein is just turd.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Instead of the parent telling the kid what should be done, or how to correct the behavior, maybe the parent resorts to just being a bully and hitting him instead.

I don’t mean to sound like a whiny liberal, but that’s usually what happened to me. My mom would just go off into a rage instead of telling us what the problem was and how we could do things correctly.

The abuse is something that definitely stays with you, so I can see how the results of the study were what they were.


24 posted on 09/24/2009 7:25:25 PM PDT by Joann37
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe they’re spanking the wrong ends.


25 posted on 09/24/2009 7:25:45 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (This tagline excerpted. To read more, click on MyOverratedBlog.com)
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To: Clemenza

I did notice as a child that the folks who used to FREQUENTLY beat their kids in public weren’t exactly the classiest folks and were usually from the shallower end of the gene pool.
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We used to call them ‘K-Mart Kids’ in these parts. However.......I found out (in public) when dealing with an ‘unruly child’ that the ‘Spock Death Grip’, with a stern look, works pretty well....and SILENTLY to boot. That ‘brachial nerve’ is sensitive, ya’ know. ;-)


26 posted on 09/24/2009 7:26:06 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“They're drinking the juice.” ~ Barack H. Obama)
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To: NormsRevenge

I think getting my butt spanked all the time not only raised my I.Q. but it also helped me to become a fast learner. I learned quickly not to do that anymore! LOL!


27 posted on 09/24/2009 7:26:38 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (I don't remember Americans being called "racists" when we fought against Hillarycare.)
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To: Clemenza

>>I did notice as a child that the folks who used to FREQUENTLY beat their kids in public weren’t exactly the classiest folks and were usually from the shallower end of the gene pool.<<

I fully agree with you.
If you can’t think of any other form of punishment and beat on your kid in public constantly, you may not have the highest IQ.

And some kids learn quicker than others. That’s all there is to it.


28 posted on 09/24/2009 7:26:55 PM PDT by netmilsmom (Psalm 109:8 - Let his days be few; and let another take his office)
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29 posted on 09/24/2009 7:27:01 PM PDT by wastedyears (The best aid we could ever give Africa would be thousands of rifles to throw out their own dictators)
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To: NormsRevenge

I’ll post what I always say: it depends on the kid.


30 posted on 09/24/2009 7:27:25 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: NormsRevenge

It’s the researcher that has the lower IQ.

2.8 points is insignificant to the point of being unmeasurable.

Avg IQ is considered between 90 and 110. There is a range, because measuring IQ is an inexact science at best.


31 posted on 09/24/2009 7:27:25 PM PDT by Brookhaven (http://theconservativehand.blogspot.com/)
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To: NormsRevenge
This is such bs.

Our two oldest are an MD who went to Northwestern med school and an engineer from the University of Michigan (top ten engineering school, hard to get into). They were spanked. Our nephew has an MBA from Harvard. He was spanked.

Our two nephews who weren't spanked joined scientology.

32 posted on 09/24/2009 7:27:29 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Clemenza
Correlation is not causation.

And spanking children frequently is part and parcel of the culture at the lower end of the socioeconomic spectrum, where IQ is statistically lower as well.

My father used to quote Machiavelli at us “Terror is cheaper than Force.”

We lived in absolute dread when we messed up remembering those two times we got it, and hoping there would never be a third. There never was.

33 posted on 09/24/2009 7:27:30 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: devolve; NormsRevenge; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; dixiechick2000; MeekOneGOP

I believe this like a ‘hole in the head’!!
I was spanked and grew up a decent and law abiding person. I spanked my 4 children and they are all good, Christian, law abiding people.

Look at the younger generation now, loose morals, foul mouths. Look at the schools where the kids have sex in the stairwells and fight each other. I could rant on forever on this topic.


34 posted on 09/24/2009 7:27:54 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: GOPJ

Yep. My favorite trick was to admit to a lesser infraction. Worked every time.


35 posted on 09/24/2009 7:28:51 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
The only Dr. Spock you should listen to on child rearing is THIS guy:


36 posted on 09/24/2009 7:28:58 PM PDT by Clemenza (Remember our Korean War Veterans)
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To: NormsRevenge

That is not even a statistically significant difference.


37 posted on 09/24/2009 7:29:20 PM PDT by Havisham
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To: Clemenza

My deepest apologies. ;-) I meant ‘Mr. Spock’. Gawd.......Freudian slip....and what-not. LOL!


38 posted on 09/24/2009 7:30:36 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“They're drinking the juice.” ~ Barack H. Obama)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is totally backwards. Kids with higher IQs know how to avoid getting spankings!


39 posted on 09/24/2009 7:32:01 PM PDT by TommyDale (Independent - I already left the GOP because they were too liberal)
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
LOL. My dad used to do that one on my brother and I. Except he made it look like he was getting down at our level, putting a ‘reassuring’ hand on our arm, speaking a few words sternly.... and darn if we didn't shape right up!

People commended his parenting based upon reason and understanding, not knowing the iron grip of death.

40 posted on 09/24/2009 7:33:12 PM PDT by allmendream (Wealth is EARNED not distributed, so how could it be RE-distributed?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Another worthless “scientific study”. It is the dumb kids who get into trouble.


41 posted on 09/24/2009 7:34:42 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Maybe the dumb ones just need more spankings!


42 posted on 09/24/2009 7:35:44 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: OneWingedShark

Didn’t you read it? Your IQ could have been even higher!


43 posted on 09/24/2009 7:35:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The Second Amendment. Don't MAKE me use it.)
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To: babble-on
It is also possible that the smart kids figure out not to do the dumb stuff, understanding "bad choices" = "bad consequences" much faster. The kids who keep doing the dumb stuff may just be dumber. ObamaCare Jokes Obama Jokes
44 posted on 09/24/2009 7:36:12 PM PDT by tbw2 (Freeper sci-fi - "Humanity's Edge" - on amazon.com)
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To: allmendream

LOL!


45 posted on 09/24/2009 7:36:56 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (“They're drinking the juice.” ~ Barack H. Obama)
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To: babble-on

The smart kids stayed out of trouble, or didn’t get caught.


46 posted on 09/24/2009 7:37:45 PM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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To: NormsRevenge

IQ tests are racist....right?


47 posted on 09/24/2009 7:38:46 PM PDT by FTJM
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To: NormsRevenge

So the spanked 2-to-4 year-olds scored 5 points lower, but the 5-to-9 year-olds lost less than three... I wonder how long this trend continues...


48 posted on 09/24/2009 7:39:30 PM PDT by dangus (I am JimThompson)
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To: NormsRevenge
please...
49 posted on 09/24/2009 7:42:21 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- I AM JIM THOMPSON!)
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To: mamelukesabre
“leftist propaganda.”

Amen. Liberals lie, is the clear message from the past few months.
Data would probably show to be massaged if a person looked at it.

50 posted on 09/24/2009 7:46:34 PM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Just say no to Soylent Green health care)
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