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Las Vegas Boy Dies After Getting Stranded in Death Valley
Las Vegas Now ^ | Aug 7, 2009 | AP

Posted on 08/07/2009 6:59:42 PM PDT by driftdiver

Edited on 08/07/2009 7:03:19 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: BunnySlippers

41 posted on 08/07/2009 7:40:01 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: driftdiver

It was probably the heat. If they had left as soon as it was dark and carried as much water as they could, they could have easily walked out.


42 posted on 08/07/2009 7:40:50 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Obamacare: all the efficiency of the DMV and all the compassion of the IRS.)
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To: Prodigal Son

43 posted on 08/07/2009 7:42:36 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: driftdiver

I’ve been to Death Valley in August, but never to camp. Who would want to do that? There’s not much shade.


44 posted on 08/07/2009 7:43:14 PM PDT by loreldan (Lynne Cheney for President)
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To: driftdiver

The 28 year old mother of an 11 year old says something.


45 posted on 08/07/2009 7:43:15 PM PDT by fso301
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To: GOP_Lady

Yes, beautiful indeed. I am a desert person.

I have not been to Death Valley in many years but it is a study in extremes. I cannot imagine approaching it in another era, without a road. Even with the road, it is stark ... few turn offs, no side roads. Long expanses with no change in topography.


46 posted on 08/07/2009 7:43:42 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Prodigal Son

Death Valley, believe it or not, is quite amazing.

You go from the lowest point of sea level on the northern hemisphere (I believe) to over 9,000 feet up.

It has canyons, sands and mountains.


47 posted on 08/07/2009 7:43:59 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: driftdiver
They had "24 16-oz. bottles of water," I know water needs go up significantly but that seems like plenty for 5 days in the desert if you were in survival mode.

You answered your own implied question. Evidently they weren't.

But speaking of poor judgment, where was the boy's father?

48 posted on 08/07/2009 7:44:39 PM PDT by altair (soon to be an expat-FReeper again)
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To: BunnySlippers
Neither could I, BunnySlippers.

I'm from Cleveland, as you may know.

When I saw it for the first time, I would never have imagined that it had so many things.

49 posted on 08/07/2009 7:45:08 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Blood of Tyrants

In my opinion, not in summer. Night time is horribly hot. And sometimes very high, hot winds that blow the sand everywhere.

I’ve tried camping in summer and we have to sleep in the front seat of the car. Too much sand blowing.


50 posted on 08/07/2009 7:45:54 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: driftdiver

I went through Death Valley in the summer in a Fiat with the top off. Just for bragging rights I suppose. No way I was going to drive off any road though.


51 posted on 08/07/2009 7:47:53 PM PDT by Nateman (If liberals aren't screaming you're doing it wrong.)
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To: BunnySlippers
In fact, the Donner party died in the mountains surrounding IIRC.

That's further north, Donner Pass, think I80 goes through it or close by Lake Tahoe.

We went through there in July or August when I was a kid, no a/c for cars then, some had these cylindrical things that fit in a window filled with dry ice. I got a heat stroke.

I think several wagon parties had people die going through there. The Jayhawkers were one during the Gold Rush. Rather than take the northern route through SLC, they went south, can't remember why. Some survived the ordeal.

Poor kid. That would be a horrible way to die.

52 posted on 08/07/2009 7:55:51 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: driftdiver
24 bottles split between 2 people for 5 days is 2.4 bottles per person per day.That would be only 39 ounces per person per day.I drank 120 ounces in one day working on my house roof in 95 degree weather and still nearly had heat stroke.And my water was kept cool until drinking,not allowed to assume the ambient temperature.Drinking any liquid that is warmer than body temperature obviously adds to the heat that needs to be removed by sweating.If the mother had brought three or four times as much water ,some light but effective sunshade/windbreak and had a CB radio as well, they both MIGHT have lived.

Sadly the boy is dead because of his mother's decisions.

53 posted on 08/07/2009 7:57:05 PM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: GOP_Lady

Oh, I agree. It’s beautiful. I love the outdoors. I can find something beautiful but inhospitable at the same time. And sunbaked salt encrusted dirt for miles in every direction looks like just the thing to well and truly kill someone if they got stuck there in 110+ degree heat.


54 posted on 08/07/2009 7:57:23 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: GOP_Lady
I saw my first and only roadrunner in Death Valley as well as beautiful California Condors.

A condor is just a kind of vulture.

I saw my first and only roadrunner in the hills above my parent's house in San Luis Obispo County. No sign of a crazy coyote in pursuit either ...

A bit of Death Valley trivia - the lowest point in the United States is a place called Badwater. No doubt it got its name the same way Death Valley got its name.

55 posted on 08/07/2009 7:57:39 PM PDT by altair (soon to be an expat-FReeper again)
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To: Aliska
The road in Death Valley, the ONLY road.


56 posted on 08/07/2009 7:58:35 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: altair

We did not go to Badwater last time.

We’ll have to check it out this time.


57 posted on 08/07/2009 7:59:40 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: BunnySlippers

Yep.


58 posted on 08/07/2009 8:00:04 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: BunnySlippers

I’ve never made it past Furnace Creek.


59 posted on 08/07/2009 8:00:28 PM PDT by GOP_Lady
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To: Prodigal Son

When you try to walk on the salt, your feet fall into the “holes”. I could only walk a few feet onto the salt. Could not imagine walking a distance, especially in heat. Especially in summer.


60 posted on 08/07/2009 8:00:49 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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