Christian Symposium Offers Different Take on Aliens at Roswell UFO Festival

Christian News Wire ^ | 5/12/2009

[SonOfDarkSkies]

ROSWELL, New Mexico, May 12 /Christian Newswire/ -- Alien Resistance, a Christian counter-cult outreach ministry, will hold an all-Christian-speaker Symposium on aliens during the annual Roswell UFO Festival July 3-5th, 2009. The 11 participants include 4 PhDs, 2 doctorates of ministry, 2 pastors, 2 ordained ministers, and several pastoral counselors, with 12 books written between them on the UFO/Alien topic. The Symposium will educate on the UFO/alien topic from a Biblical Christian perspective, with emphasis on counter-cult evangelism, creationism, and spiritual warfare. The event is free for the public to attend, and will be held at the Best Western Sally Port Inn Ballroom. Tens of thousands of people interested in the UFO/Alien topic are expected to attend the Roswell UFO/Alien Festival this year.

Organizers assert that, "From a Biblical Christian perspective it becomes clear that 'aliens' are actually the evil spirits of the Bible. This idea is backed up experientially with the evidence of numerous testimonies of 'abductees', which show that 'alien abduction' experiences stop in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. Also the sinful behaviors of the 'aliens' behind abductions, the false gospels and new age messages they proclaim, and their supernatural powers so very reminiscent of those described in the Bible as being had by angels, all adds up to make clear that 'aliens' are in fact the evil spirits of the Bible."

Participants will include: William Alnor Ph.D., author of "UFOs in the New Age" and "UFO Cults in the New Millennium"; Gary Bates, from Creation Ministries International Australia, author of "Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the Evolution Connection"; Mike Bennett Ph.D., demonology researcher and host of "FutureQuake" Nashville-based Christian FM talk radio program; Pastor Russ Dizdar, Cult and Occult survivors specialist and deliverance minister; Joe Jordan O.M., alien abduction researcher and deliverance minister; Michael S. Heiser Ph.D., doctor in Hebrew Bible and Semitic Languages and author of "The Facade"; Guy Malone, author of "UFO Phenomena and the Bible"; Mrs. Malone, author of "A Modern Guide to Demons and Fallen Angels"; L.A. Marzulli D.Min., author of "Politics, Prophecy, and the Supernatural"; Pastor Chris Ward D.Min., deliverance minister and author of "Case Files of an Internet Exorcist"; and Stephen Yulish Ph.D., author of "The Real Story of UFOs."

[Mr. K]

Look at hubble picutres... millions of galaxies with millions of suns and potential solar systems.

There is life out there- I can’t wait to see what form it takes. DNA? Carbon Based? Cell Structure? maybe none of those.

A VIRUS is a entirely different life form, did you know?

[GL of Sector 2814]

For a more realistic take on UFOs, how about considering that the entire phenomenon is simply a bunch of nonsense that doesn't really exist? Please see:

http://skepdic.com/ufos_ets.html

[BenLurkin]

ping

[Alex Murphy]

Organizers assert that, "From a Biblical Christian perspective it becomes clear that 'aliens' are actually the evil spirits of the Bible. This idea is backed up experientially with the evidence of numerous testimonies of 'abductees', which show that 'alien abduction' experiences stop in the name and authority of Jesus Christ. Also the sinful behaviors of the 'aliens' behind abductions, the false gospels and new age messages they proclaim, and their supernatural powers so very reminiscent of those described in the Bible as being had by angels, all adds up to make clear that 'aliens' are in fact the evil spirits of the Bible."

I myself tend to agree with John Peel's (remember him?) conclusions:

“...The UFOS do not seem to exist as tangible, manufactured objects. They do not conform to the accepted natural laws of our environment....The UFO manifestations seem to be, by and large, merely minor variations of the age-old demonological phenomenon.~
John Keel,
UFOs: Operation Trojan Horse
pg 299

And with Jacques Vallee's:

"...The phenomenon behaved like a conditioning process. The logic of conditioning uses obscurity and confusion to achieve its goal while hiding its mechanism. I could see a similar structure in the UFO stories. I am beginning to perceive a coherent picture of the ‘flying saucer’ phenomenon for the first time, now that I am pursuing the idea that UFOS may be a pyschological control system, and now that I am aware of their link to human consciousness. But I am not ready to jump to the conclusion that it is the technology of some kind of ‘spacemen.’"
Jacques Vallee,
Anatomy of a Phenomenon
pg 6

[mel]

Interesting

[SonOfDarkSkies]

I've never put much stock in fuzzy photos or distant blinking lights.

On the other hand, those folks who believe they have been abducted have had measurable, psychologically traumatizing experiences. Are they real or hallucinations or the result of brain chemistry (something produced in the brain that behaves like dimethyltryptamine)? Are they visions or dreams? Are the creatures phantasms, or real beings...alien or demon?

I, of course, don't know.

But I do know that these people believe something happened to them. In some cases there is corroborative testimony from others of specific events and, overall, there is corroborative testimony of similar experiences.

The question is what is it?

[SonOfDarkSkies]

I agree!

Even Hynek who was initially a harden skeptic came to believe that whatever was happening was, indeed, happening and was possibly of an interdimensional nature.

[SonOfDarkSkies]

The phenomenon behaved like a conditioning process. The logic of conditioning uses obscurity and confusion to achieve its goal while hiding its mechanism.

That statement can be accurately applied to Obama.;-)

[DannyTN]

"Organizers assert that, "From a Biblical Christian perspective it becomes clear that 'aliens' are actually the evil spirits of the Bible."

I don't think that's Biblical.

Possibilities include:

• It's a bunch of hooey, it doesn't exist.
• There is nothing in the Bible that says God didn't make other creatures. In fact some such as the living creatures around the Throne are mentioned in the Bible.
• There is a spirit world with spiritual creatures aka Angels. I don't think the UFO's are them. The Bible describes spirit possession and it's pretty far from alien abduction.
• There is an argument that says the entire universe was created for man, and will end in conjuction with human history. That makes other life less likely as their history would have to be coordinated with ours, else our history causes their universe an untimely demise. Assuming only one universe.
• Elijah was taken to Heaven in a "chariot" described as having "wheels within wheels". So it's possible the craft are some form of angelic technology.
• Mad, Cow obsessed, Scientist
• Advanced military. also cow obsessed.

[GL of Sector 2814]

Are they visions or dreams? Are the creatures phantasms, or real beings...alien or demon?

A combination of fraud and shared cultural delusion.

Again, from the skeptic's dictionary (a very useful site!)

http://skepdic.com/aliens.html

[thecabal]

Do you post original thoughts, or just regurgitate from that website?

[sticker]

Will Scully be there?

[GL of Sector 2814]

Do you post original thoughts, or just regurgitate from that website?

I just checked my posting history, and out of the hundreds of posts I've made I've referenced that website 5 times (that includes the 2 times on this thread).

I guess I really am obsessed! Well, admitting I have a problem is the first step. Let the healing begin...

[SonOfDarkSkies]

A person setting out to prove something exists is similar to one who sets out to prove the same thing doesn't exist.

They both start from a point of bias and their judgment will be so colored.

Skeptics are the mirror image of those who believe without evidence...neither approach the subject scientifically. To both, their belief is a matter of faith and/or desire...and not the product of rational thought.

[GL of Sector 2814]

Isn’t it reasonable to approach these sorts of things (UFOs, ESP, the occult, etc.) rationally and scientifically and then come to the conclusion that it’s all a bunch of nonsense?

[SonOfDarkSkies]

Scientific exploration of a matter terminates when you conclude that you have the answer and cease to admit new evidence or consider the possibility that you may, in fact, have reached the incorrect conclusion.

[GL of Sector 2814]

Is there not any subject for which the proper response is not continued scientific inquiry but instead pointing at someone and laughing? Belief in geocentrism and vampires (as such) come to mind just offhand.

[JoJo Gunn]

Scientific exploration of a matter terminates when you conclude that you have the answer...

You mean, as in global pronunciations that skeptics aren't capable of rational thought? (Your post 15)

[SonOfDarkSkies]

You mean, as in global pronunciations that skeptics aren't capable of rational thought?

Point out the exact statement where I said or implied that.