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Mountain Lion Attack Details Questioned (State Blames Dog For Attack)
NBC 11 ^ | Fri, May 8, 2009 | R. Stickney

Posted on 05/08/2009 10:43:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Dog owner William Morse, his wife Kandy and their dog Hogie were out for a walk along a trail in the Cleveland National Forest Tuesday when "out of nowhere a mountain lion just charged us, attacked us, and my dog saved our life, saved me and my wife's life."

The black shepherd-mix dog, named Hogie, was severely injured in Tuesday's noon incident but was expected to recover following surgery at a Riverside County veterinary hospital.

On Wednesday, state officials with the California Department of Fish and Game released statements that contradicted Morse’s accounts. In the new scenarios, Hogie was the aggressor and the mountain lion was provoked. Fish and Game Lt. Dan Sforza told the Orange County Register that the big cat likely acted in self-defense. "It doesn't look like the lion was interested in the dog as a meal," Sforza told the newspaper. "It was just defending itself.

Sforza said investigators believe the animals apparently spotted one another at the same time, and the lion started to run off, chased by the dog, contrary to what the dog's owner claimed.

State wildlife officials said they found no blood, hair or tracks at the site and they're not clear what type of animal attacked the dog.

Morse told The Californian Thursday that he feels betrayed. He said he told state wardens and officials the exact same story and now those same officials are releasing statements that contradict his account. Kandy Morse told the paper she’s also confused by the recent turn of events. Her husband considers the state’s response to be an attempt to quiet any sort of panic that might have been sparked by the report of a mountain lion attack.

As the story has spread on the Internet, people have chimed in to blame the Morses for the incident. If Hogie had been leashed as required by state law, some neighbors of the Morses believe, there wouldn’t have been a problem.

"What should (Hogie) have done?" William Morse asked. "Waited until the cat attacked me?"


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Outdoors; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: caloifornia; dogs; mountainlion
Wait for a new law requiring you to submit if a mountain lion wants to eat you.
1 posted on 05/08/2009 10:43:03 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Mountain Lion Slaughters Cats (CA)

Dog Saves Owners From Mountain Lion

2 posted on 05/08/2009 10:45:29 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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On Wednesday, state officials with the California Department of Fish and Game released statements that contradicted Morse’s accounts.

Were they there?

Nope?

Then they can STFU.

3 posted on 05/08/2009 10:45:33 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.")
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To: nickcarraway

Little wonder that a lot of people despise the authorities.


4 posted on 05/08/2009 10:47:19 PM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred.")
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On Wednesday, state officials with the California Department of Fish and Game released statements that contradicted Morse’s accounts.

They interviewed the lion?

5 posted on 05/08/2009 11:01:38 PM PDT by TigersEye (Cloward-Piven Strategy)
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The greenie psychos would prefer Morse to have been killed..


6 posted on 05/08/2009 11:23:07 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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"It doesn't look like the lion was interested in the dog as a meal," Sforza told the newspaper. "It was just defending itself."

Anyone who knows anything about mountain lions knows this is utter crap.


7 posted on 05/08/2009 11:23:28 PM PDT by Cinnamontea
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Note, this was a state guy who made this comment...not a Fed guy. When you typically talk about a fish and game guy...he usually got there with some kind of degree in biology or earth sciences....which means very little in terms of animal behavior. I remember the state fish and game guy in my home county in Alabama in the mid-1970s...who spent 30 hours of his forty weekly hours...just fishing in the state-provided boat on the lake.


8 posted on 05/08/2009 11:35:31 PM PDT by pepsionice
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I’m not certain about one thing. What difference does it make who attacked who?


9 posted on 05/08/2009 11:50:16 PM PDT by eclecticEel ("Envy is always referred to by its political alias, 'social justice.' " - T. Sowell)
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There is a chance that the dog did start it, without seeing evidence you can’t say what happened.


10 posted on 05/08/2009 11:51:24 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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Fish and Game Lt. Dan Sforza = idoit


11 posted on 05/09/2009 12:04:58 AM PDT by piroque
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A few years ago a mountain lion attacked a woman bicyclist in CA. They ended up killing the mountain lion. I distincly remember hearing of two charitable funds set up — one for the woman and one for the mountain lion. The mountain lion fund was triple the woman fund.


12 posted on 05/09/2009 1:00:38 AM PDT by NoExpectations
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“State wildlife officials said they found no blood, hair or tracks at the site and they’re not clear what type of animal attacked the dog.”
The blind idiots can’t find any evidence, yet they issue a statement that the people that witnessed the event are lying.
This partially explains the reason that when any government “official” speaks, I assume their either lying or ignorant.


13 posted on 05/09/2009 1:02:22 AM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (America held hostage - day 163)
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Mt. loins have recently (last 5 yrs) moved into my part of the country. We see them often and now are getting used to being around, though still a novelty. Just this week a Conservation Agent (who lives here!) stated he has no proof they live in our area and urged people to report any sightings. The farmers/locals don’t report sightings any longer because they don’t like gubberment guys trampling on their land and then calling them liars. I’m certain some the the cougars have falling to the shoot, shovel, shut up fate...I’d sure like to add one of those hides to my collection.


14 posted on 05/09/2009 6:47:36 AM PDT by buschbaby (Our Founding Fathers ~ The Original Right Wing Extremists.)
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