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Is Rare Clock Adolf Hitler's Timepiece?
EDP24 ^ | 06 April 2009

Posted on 04/06/2009 11:47:28 AM PDT by nickcarraway

A gilded bronze clock which could have ticked away the final hours of Adolf Hitler's Nazi regime has resurfaced in a new antiques shop in Dereham.

The elaborate timepiece, believed to be a British soldier's prized memento of victory in the Second World War, is one of many historical collectables brought to the shop opened by Breckland councillor and former Dereham mayor Michael Fanthorpe.

Mr Fanthorpe said the clock belonged to a soldier despatched to the dictator's bunker after the fall of Berlin in 1945, whose wife refused to display it in her home and chose to sell it after her husband's death.

Made in 1935 and topped with a bronze German eagle, the antiques dealer said the quality of the clock meant it could have come from the desk of the Führer himself - but he was waiting for proof before offering it for sale.

“It must have belonged to someone in that bunker and the quality of it means it certainly could have belonged to Hitler,” he said.

“No-one would have had a clock like that in Germany at the time - you would almost have to be the top man. It is five-star quality bronze and a five-star Swiss movement. If I can find a photograph of it on his desk, then who knows how much it could make.”

Fanthorpe's Antiques and Collectibles opened in January in a renovated medieval barn forming a small arcade of shops off Norwich Street - opposite his family's former antiques shop which closed in 1984.

Mr Fanthorpe, also a hairdresser in Fakenham, said the shop was primarily opened to collect items which he could sell at international antiques fairs.

Among the clocks, watches, jewellery and other collectibles are pocket watches issued to British officers and a framed photograph showing German propaganda minister Joseph Goebbels on holiday in 1942.

“We are amazed how much unusual German stuff from the war is being brought in for us to buy,” said Mr Fanthorpe.

“Many of our brave soldiers brought these artefacts back with them. I would certainly not have it in my house but lots of people are collecting this kind of thing at the moment.”

Mr Fanthorpe runs the shop with his wife Avril, who he met at an antiques fair in 2005. She is half German and said the time had come for artefacts from the Nazi regime to be seen purely in their historical context.

“A lot of people do collect Nazi memorabilia now because it is part of the past,” she said. “They have not suffered the pain their parents or grandparents did - the bitterness has worn away and they have opened their horizons.”

One customer, Romanian-born Magda Forrest from Fakenham, said: “It could be a triumph over evil if someone bought Hitler's clock because then it is yours and not his any more.”


TOPICS: History; Hobbies; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: antiques; hitler; worldwarii
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Michael Fanthorpe opens his new Antique shop in Dereham. Items include an old photograph of the gestapo and a clock that may have originated from Hitler's office



Earlier this year, an Abraham Lincoln timepiece was in the news:

Hidden Message Found in Lincoln Pocket Watch (Abraham Lincoln)

1 posted on 04/06/2009 11:47:28 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

BTTT


2 posted on 04/06/2009 11:56:48 AM PDT by unkus
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To: nickcarraway

Antique dealer, hair dresser, and those glasses.......

‘nuff said ‘bout that.


3 posted on 04/06/2009 12:04:46 PM PDT by enraged
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To: nickcarraway
"... Mr Fanthorpe said the clock belonged to a soldier despatched to the dictator's bunker after the fall of Berlin in 1945, whose wife refused to display it in her home and chose to sell it after her husband's death."

She couldn't stand the little cuckoo that came out every half hour, raised his little wing, and said 'HEIL HITLER! ZE TIME IS NOW TVELF O'CLOCK!'

4 posted on 04/06/2009 12:10:26 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: nickcarraway

I think it safe to say after the Russian were through with the bunker, there was nothing left remaining of value.


5 posted on 04/06/2009 12:31:10 PM PDT by fso301
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To: nickcarraway
I call BS. The Russians were the first into the bunker and kept control of it, as it was in their area of the city. The first British troops didn't enter the city until a few weeks after VE Day, about a month after the Russians occupied the fuhrerbunker on May 2.

Plus, that's not a particularly Nazi-looking eagle. If I were to guess, just eyeballing the clock, I'd put it around 1880-1910.

6 posted on 04/06/2009 12:31:53 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: nickcarraway

They saved Hitler’s clock?


7 posted on 04/06/2009 12:33:36 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?))
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To: enraged
and those glasses.......

looks like a male Sally Jesse Raphael...

8 posted on 04/06/2009 12:35:47 PM PDT by tc45a
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Plus, that's not a particularly Nazi-looking eagle. If I were to guess, just eyeballing the clock, I'd put it around 1880-1910.

I would say that too. It looks like an Empire style clock from that period.

For example, check out this link:

REDUCED Figural Empire Style Desk Clock With Bronze Eagle, c 1880s

The photos on the site are in Adobe Flash, so I can't post them.

9 posted on 04/06/2009 12:41:45 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day; martin_fierro

Oooooo... check out Mr. Antiques Roadshow... ;)


10 posted on 04/06/2009 12:45:21 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim
LOL! You earn your card daily!


11 posted on 04/06/2009 12:49:08 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: enraged

looks like the Nutty Professor


12 posted on 04/06/2009 12:49:18 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (ACORN:American Corruption for Obama Right Now)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Gotta stay in practice, you should know how high the bar gets set around here. ;)


13 posted on 04/06/2009 12:51:27 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim; martin_fierro; Travis T. OJustice
Oooooo... check out Mr. Antiques Roadshow... ;)

Harrumph!

I'll admit, I do enjoy the show.

At least I don't look like this silly fop:

Look at that overbite! He could eat an ear of corn through a picket fence.

14 posted on 04/06/2009 12:55:19 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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"...and this incredible little piece of nice used to grace Saddam Hussein's trophy room wall. Don't ask me how I know. I just do."

15 posted on 04/06/2009 12:58:22 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
oooh yeah, some hefty competition around here for sure.

Speaking of Bar,


16 posted on 04/06/2009 12:59:02 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Constitution Day

I can just hear him, in a bugs bunny voice, saying “hossenfeffer”.


17 posted on 04/06/2009 1:00:56 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice; Tijeras_Slim

Awww hell yeah!

Also, it’s pretty great that you posted an Israeli model on a thread about Hitler’s clock.

You know that would drive him crazy.


18 posted on 04/06/2009 1:01:26 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: Constitution Day

Coincidence? :)


19 posted on 04/06/2009 1:03:04 PM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Not to hijack this thread, but I cooked that with some friends recently when we had a “wild game” night. You should try it if you ever get your hands on any rabbit.

I also made grilled venison chops with a special butter topping made with feta cheese, fennel, thyme and lavender.

It was pretty fantastic, better than some filet mignon I’ve had.


20 posted on 04/06/2009 1:04:14 PM PDT by Constitution Day
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