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Vanity - Children being led in Prayer for "The One" at School
None | January 27, 2009 | Owl_Eagle

Posted on 01/26/2009 6:11:42 AM PST by End Times Sentinel

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To: Owl_Eagle

I tend to disfavor political partisanship in schools, particularly during the younger grades.

I’d start by going to the school for fact-collection. Listen to the prayer and see what is being prayed for.

Pray for the Nation? Definitely, always a good thing.

Pray for the Queen? Fair play if you live in the Commonwealth: the Queen is non-partisan.

Pray for the President? A little more dodgy because the President is partisan. But it barely squeaks by because you are praying for the office, not the man.

Pray for Obama? or Bush? Either it is both, or it is neither. I vote for neither.

Once you know what is being said, decide whether you need to meet with the teacher and/or the principal and/or the PTA secretary. Set it all out, and take notes. You will have a better idea how to proceed once you have had that meeting. But by no means go into that meeting unprepared: do the above homework first!


21 posted on 01/26/2009 6:26:46 AM PST by DieHard the Hunter (Is mise an ceann-cinnidh. Cha ghéill mi do dhuine. Fàg am bealach.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I’d be in the superior’s office in a heart-beat.


22 posted on 01/26/2009 6:29:51 AM PST by Beckwith (Typical white person)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I know a retired lady from Germany who was in primary school when Hitler came to power. She can still remember the daily prayer the schools had everyone recite “for our dear Leader”. After all, Germany had just come through the hyperinflation and distress of the Weimar Republic, and at that time no one knew what was to come, but that they had some One they could trust to get things back on track economically.


23 posted on 01/26/2009 6:31:39 AM PST by wildandcrazyrussian
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To: Owl_Eagle

If it would not be an imposition, could you tell us the denomination of the parochial school?


24 posted on 01/26/2009 6:33:18 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: Owl_Eagle

I have learned in my later years here that the Catholic/Parochial schools are merely private schools with a Crucifix out front. From my experience, I wouldn’t trust them. I am a practicing Catholic whose full 16 years of Cathoic education ended over 35 years ago. I can tell you that “it ain’t what it once to was”.


25 posted on 01/26/2009 6:35:27 AM PST by Emmett McCarthy
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If it would not be an imposition, could you tell us the denomination of the parochial school?

Sorry, I thought parochial meant Catholic. But then again, I'm a convert so a lot of what I "think" is wrong.

That's what makes this all the stranger! It's not like I'm sending them to some "Black Liberation" school or something. This is Catholic and it SEEMS like abortion would be one of the biggest... heck, THE biggest issue. So how can they overlook that?

26 posted on 01/26/2009 6:37:24 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: Owl_Eagle

I would ask to see the prayer and then decide what to do.
Content and context mean everything.


27 posted on 01/26/2009 6:38:56 AM PST by kalee (01/20/13 The end of an error.)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Does the ACLU allow prayer in schools? Any schools?


28 posted on 01/26/2009 6:38:58 AM PST by fanfan
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To: Owl_Eagle

Let them prey... er pray.

I would pray with my kids so when they pray in school they can pray according to how I taught them.


29 posted on 01/26/2009 6:39:43 AM PST by new cruelty (Shoot your TV. Torch your newspaper.)
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My children (daughter 9 son 7) go to a Parochial School, and this morning my daughter mentioned that they pray every morning for Obama.

Well Public skhools pray to him.

30 posted on 01/26/2009 6:39:55 AM PST by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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Have them become FReepers and sign up for a daily dose of the Obama prayer threads. end sarcasm.


31 posted on 01/26/2009 6:40:38 AM PST by stockpirate (A people unwilling to use violent force to defend liberty deserve the tyrants that rule them. SP-200)
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If they prayed for Bush, I really have no problem depending on what is said. Praying for leaders is biblical.


32 posted on 01/26/2009 6:41:17 AM PST by Always Right (Obama: more arrogant than Bill Clinton, more naive than Jimmy Carter, and more liberal than LBJ.)
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I would have already lodged a complaint. If that fails I would remove them from the school and they would know the reason why.


33 posted on 01/26/2009 6:43:18 AM PST by Ditter
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Time to find a new school. It doesn’t sound like your kids are likely to get a Catholic education at that one.


34 posted on 01/26/2009 6:48:52 AM PST by Tribune7 (Obama wants to put the same crowd that ran Fannie Mae in charge of health care)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Public or private school? What is the content of the prayer? If the school is praying every day that he changes, seems like a good thing.


35 posted on 01/26/2009 6:49:39 AM PST by mnehring
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What? People said they wanted “prayer in school” right?

I thought perhaps I would read a few dawning upon the realization of just how pernicious the invocation of the divine was when done by (and apparently for) secular authority.

Oh well.

36 posted on 01/26/2009 6:50:30 AM PST by allmendream ("He who does not work shall not eat")
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If this is true then take you kids out of the school today. Why are you hesitating? You pay them to educated your kids, find another school.


37 posted on 01/26/2009 6:50:56 AM PST by svcw (Great selection of gift baskets: http://baskettastic.com/)
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Per the home schooling, probably not an option. I definitely need to keep my job (military/law enforcement) and the wife has a critical job with a severe shortage of wrokers as well.
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Homeschooling takes a fraction of the time that institutionalized schooling does. My homeschooled children rarely spent more than 2 hours in formal studying.

You are paying for private school now. How much would a babysitter cost as compared to private school tuition? And....Surely, a babysitter could be expected to help out with some of the homeschooling.

99% of what a child learns is at home anyway. You are likely spending time supervising homework, or your children are independently doing homework now. Some call all this “afterschooling”. Really, what is the school actually teaching your childen anyway? I suspect that you and your kids are doing the mass bulk of the work and the institutional school is merely sending home the curriculum for you to follow.

Finally...Contact you local homeschooling group and get in contact with working parents who are homeschooling. You might be amazed that homeschooling with working parents is entirely possible. I personally know a few families ( and single working moms) who have done an excellent job of it.

By the way, my daughter teaches math at a Catholic school. It is a Democratic Party indoctrination camp. That Obama and the Democrats support abortion and even infanticide means nothing to those running this supposed Catholic-in-name-only “school”.

38 posted on 01/26/2009 6:56:32 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Also, complain to the Catholic authorities who are supposedly supervising this “Catholic” school.

Contact the other parents and let them know what’s going on with this adulation of a infanticide promoting president.


39 posted on 01/26/2009 6:59:01 AM PST by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are NOT stupid)
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To: svcw
If this is true then take you kids out of the school today. Why are you hesitating? You pay them to educated your kids, find another school.

Well, I understand your point.

Off the top of my head, my choices are another Catholic school, that I suspect would be similar, a Jewish school that probably prays TO Obama, or a Friends school that would try to teach them to hate America (Friends are despicable low lifes, in general).

This is more a source of annoyance, because no amount of surrounding my kids with children praying for/to Obama is going to have an affect on them supporting this fraud. We talk about these issues at the dinner table nightly and on the way to and from school, and that has far more impact than that school ever will in setting their moral compass.

The school (and probably any school) has made comments about guns, war, and smoking that I've told them are dead wrong. That's a fact of life. Unless you're going to homeschool, which I'd rather do, but is unpractical and possibly an overall detrimental decision in our circumstance, someone's going to say something I don't like.

I just find this to be extremely annoying, and openly disparate in a way that contradicts The Vatican's teachings.

Owl_Eagle

“When the stock market crashed,
Franklin Roosevelt got on the television
and didn’t just talk about
the princes of greed, he said,
‘Look, here’s what happened.’"
-Slow Joe Biden

40 posted on 01/26/2009 7:03:38 AM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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