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We must adjust our distorted image of Hamas (they listen to pop music!)
Times (UK) ^ | 12/31/08 | William Sieghart

Posted on 12/31/2008 7:29:49 AM PST by vimto

Last week I was in Gaza. While I was there I met a group of 20 or so police officers who were undergoing a course in conflict management. They were eager to know whether foreigners felt safer since Hamas had taken over the Government? Indeed we did, we told them. Without doubt the past 18 months had seen a comparative calm on the streets of Gaza; no gunmen on the streets, no more kidnappings. They smiled with great pride and waved us goodbye.

Less than a week later all of these men were dead, killed by an Israeli rocket at a graduation ceremony. Were they “dangerous Hamas militant gunmen”? No, they were unarmed police officers, public servants killed not in a “militant training camp” but in the same police station in the middle of Gaza City that had been used by the British, the Israelis and Fatah during their periods of rule there.

This distinction is crucial because while the horrific scenes in Gaza and Israel play themselves out on our television screens, a war of words is being fought that is clouding our understanding of the realities on the ground.

(Excerpt) Read more at timesonline.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: antisemites; gaza; hamas; islam; islamintheuk; islamonazism; israel; isreal; jihad; proterrorist
Poor misunderstood terrorists....all they want is a hug and some understanding and then they would love all Jews and Israel and they would all live happily ever after.

(as if....)

1 posted on 12/31/2008 7:29:49 AM PST by vimto
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To: vimto

Completely out of the closet, does the Times appear to be.


2 posted on 12/31/2008 7:31:01 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (revolution is in the air.)
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To: vimto

Wilhelm Siegheil can’t hide his love and devotion to Hamas terrorists.


3 posted on 12/31/2008 7:32:10 AM PST by SolidWood (Sarah Palin - Everything that is Sweetness and Light!)
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To: the invisib1e hand
I am always suspicious of the Times UK - it is nowhere near the conservative rag it is made out to be - but heck this wouldn't look out of place as a Fisk in the Independent. Way outta the ball park....barking mad methinks.
4 posted on 12/31/2008 7:33:38 AM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: vimto
comparative calm on the streets of Gaza; no gunmen on the streets, no more kidnappings.

What was different 18 months ago?

5 posted on 12/31/2008 7:41:28 AM PST by razorback-bert (Save the planet...it is the only known one with beer!)
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It’s really pretty simple, stop firing rockets into Israel and they won’t retaliate against you. I don’t doubt that there are some decent people in Gaza who are interested in taking care of the needs of the people there, so I’m sorry to hear that some of the better people in Gaza, such as these policemen, got killed in the Israeli counterattack. However, unlike Hamas, the Israelis are not intentionally targeting innocent people, and it’s very difficult to conduct a large military operation and completely avoid casualties of innocent bystanders. The Gazans need to turn their anger against the perpetrators who are firing these rockets, as it is they who are baiting the Israelis and ultimately bringing destruction on their own people.


6 posted on 12/31/2008 8:02:56 AM PST by Texan Tory
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To: vimto

Lord Haw Haw played “pop” music on his radio show too. He was still a British fascist who serve the Nazi war effort broadcasting demoralizing antisemitic propaganda to England from Germany (Germany Calling).


7 posted on 12/31/2008 8:27:10 AM PST by weegee ("Let Me Just Cut You Off, Because I Don't Want You To Waste Your Question" - B.Obama Dec 16, 2008)
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To: vimto

I thought this was an Onion parody!


8 posted on 12/31/2008 8:35:33 AM PST by Travis McGee (--www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com--)
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To: the invisib1e hand
Hamas....a course in conflict management.

I couldn't get any further without cracking up. This guy is funny!

9 posted on 12/31/2008 8:36:23 AM PST by HardStarboard ("The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule - Mencken knew Obama)
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To: vimto

New York...London....Paris....Munich...everybody talk about Pop Music!


10 posted on 12/31/2008 8:36:55 AM PST by dfwgator (I hate Illinois Marxists)
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To: vimto
We must adjust our distorted image of Hamas

I suggest cleaning your telescopic sight before you take your shot.

L

11 posted on 12/31/2008 8:38:36 AM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: vimto

Gee. Maybe if, in the course of their police duties, they and their comrades had prevented terrorists from launching rockets into Israel, they would still be alive?


12 posted on 12/31/2008 8:44:01 AM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: dfwgator

Maybe if they listened to Swing and Big Band music, they would still be alive!


13 posted on 12/31/2008 8:45:56 AM PST by Little Ray (Do we have a Plan B?)
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To: Texan Tory
Totally agree. There were decent Germans in WWII but that isn't the point. Stop bombing Israel and all this goes away. QED.
14 posted on 12/31/2008 9:37:19 AM PST by vimto (To do the right thing you don't have to be intelligent - you have to be brave (Sasz))
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To: vimto
What the heck is a "Forward Thinker"? Does this mean he kisses the sandals of Hamas Polices...heh, forward thinker...what a laugh.
15 posted on 12/31/2008 10:57:46 AM PST by Karliner (Golld M said, “The wars will stop when the Palestinians love their children more than they hate us.)
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