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The Controversy Surrounding Obama's Birth
www.opednews.com ^ | November 29, 2008 | adeeba folami

Posted on 11/29/2008 6:56:50 PM PST by FreeAtlanta

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To: FreeAtlanta
All of this is surreal, like we're just cogs in some alternate universe.

In any other time period, even as recent as 2000, Obama would have never gotten beyond declaring his presidential bid. Can you imagine a Republican running for President after just four years removed from a state legislature? Being in cahoots with criminals and shady characters? Questions surronding his birth, past drug usage, and possible bisexuality? My God, have Americans completely gone bat-s--t insane that they'll vote for a guy like Obama and put style over substance?

If the court rules that Obama is a natural born citizen, then what incentive does that make me as a law-abiding citizen? Here's the thing. Crime is going to skyrocket in this country the moment Obama becomes President, and it's not going to be from urban minorities who are going to feel emboldened because they believe they can get away with anything now that Obama is in office. It's going to come from middle-class whites too. They won't commit crimes brazenly or be up front about it - it'll be the equivalent of what the colonists did, like a "screw this s--t" attitude. It'll be a breakdown of society's mores. Obama won't unite anyone.

61 posted on 11/29/2008 8:48:14 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Theodore R.

“Some say that both Dole and McPain wouldn’t really campaign as they were being blackmailed by high Democrat officials about their own skeletons.”

That is probably a safe bet. The Republican campaign did not seem energized or hard-hitting, with the exception of the Palin selection. We were clearly out-played and the campaign could very well have been compromised.

Ranking Democrats have access to sensitive government records (particularly Hillary with her FBI files) just as do the Republicans. There was some dirt on McCain regarding his days in N Vietnam that I expected to come out again. The fact the dirt did not come out again suggests O handlers believed McCain was behaving properly.

The RNC needs to gain a working knowledge of Alinsky’s writings. Those writings will remind you of all the recent campaigns beginning with the first Clinton campaign.


62 posted on 11/29/2008 8:56:54 PM PST by frog in a pot
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To: wow_really??
Get lost zero kneepaddist!


63 posted on 11/29/2008 8:58:46 PM PST by 50mm (Waiting anxiously for my bailout.)
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To: TChad

It looks like wow_really?? is just a nasty troll that signed up today for the sole purpose of posting stinking tripe from that paragon of journalistic integrity that tried to pass off Dan Rather’s droppings as evidence of President Bush’s lack of qualifications for the office.


64 posted on 11/29/2008 8:59:02 PM PST by tumblindice (Cough it up Barry)
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To: Admin Moderator; wow_really??

Admin, how about a cleanup on aisle 57?


65 posted on 11/29/2008 9:05:59 PM PST by 50mm (Waiting anxiously for my bailout.)
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To: Admin Moderator; 50mm

That was fast! Thanks!


66 posted on 11/29/2008 9:07:51 PM PST by 50mm (Waiting anxiously for my bailout.)
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To: tumblindice
It looks like wow_really?? is just a nasty troll that signed up today

Maybe, but as of a few minutes ago he had made just the two posts.

It does take time for people to get up to speed on Certifigate, so for now I will give him the benefit of the doubt. Besides, I encourage people to examine that birth certificate, and to notice what it is missing.

67 posted on 11/29/2008 9:08:19 PM PST by TChad
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To: mojo114

“I believe you can google your State and Electoral College Electors and it will come up. Am I correct?”

This site has a list of the electors. Just scroll down and click on your state.

http://www.democratic-disaster.com/index.php?board=63.0


68 posted on 11/29/2008 9:11:47 PM PST by Smokeyblue
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To: mojo114

Oh they do a real good job keeping an eye on us little people alright.They dont mess with the elite who tow the line.


69 posted on 11/29/2008 9:19:41 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: TChad

He’s been zotted. See post 65 and 66.


70 posted on 11/29/2008 9:20:28 PM PST by 50mm (Waiting anxiously for my bailout.)
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To: SkipW

Bush is willing to screw us or let us be screwed because with handed him a stinging defeat with regards to amnesty,dubai ports,harriet mires.How else could they be so stupid to lose in 06 and 08 if not by design?Just remember the stupid assed reasons for all these decisions.The kicker was when he said I now have a congress I can work with after the 06 drumming we took.


71 posted on 11/29/2008 9:31:32 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Defeat liberalism, its the right thing to do for America.)
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To: 50mm
He’s been zotted. See post 65 and 66.

Yes, I noticed. No great loss, but I would have given him a bit more time to declare his trollness.

72 posted on 11/29/2008 9:34:50 PM PST by TChad
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To: mojo114

“Do not understand how this controversy got this far. Isn’t there a vetting process by law enforcement (FBI, CIA) some government agency that would have taken care of this matter? If not, what would prevent a terrorist in sheep clothing to become President of our country. Any one can run and hide themselves under the cloak of purity, get elected and it is okay? I just do not understand this?”

I have heard talk show hosts say that this story cannot be real—surely he had to have been vetted by DNC, yet the unanswered questions remain...


73 posted on 11/29/2008 9:35:08 PM PST by Freedom56v2
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To: TChad
No great loss, but I would have given him a bit more time to declare his trollness.

There are literally dozens of zero kneepaddists on the loose within FR. I say the sooner zotted, the better.

74 posted on 11/29/2008 9:37:04 PM PST by 50mm (Waiting anxiously for my bailout.)
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To: 50mm
I say the sooner zotted, the better.

Debate is fun. Wow didn't even have a chance to debate. Granted, his posts were bad enough to indicate that he probably cannot debate, but still.

75 posted on 11/29/2008 9:50:17 PM PST by TChad
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To: FreeAtlanta; madison10; LucyT; Fred Nerks; pissant; Calpernia; STARWISE; dixiechick; MeekOneGOP; ...

76 posted on 11/29/2008 9:59:44 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: cripplecreek
If he were found to be ineligible, there are a few democrats facings some mighty serious charges for signing off on him.

How and who would they be???

77 posted on 11/29/2008 10:20:50 PM PST by danamco
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To: savedbygrace
We’re learning through this mess that there is no vetting to confirm the candidates’ qualification.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

There has never been a need for “vetting” a presidential candidate.

Previous candidates in the Democratic and Republican parties were ***clearly** natural born citizens. They had families, relatives, friends, and neighbors that were active parts of the candidates’ lives and could readily testify that the candidate was born in the U.S. These candidates had a **long** and visible history of being born here and living here.

Geeze! I am 62 years old and there are still plenty of people in my life that could testify that I was born in Philadelphia and even name the doctor and hospital. They attended my Christening and First Holy Communion and can name the church and some probably have photos.

So?....Where is Obama’s history? His family? Neighbors? His baby pictures?

If there isn't a vetting process it is because one was never needed until now. Geeze! Do we depend upon our Founding Fathers to outline a vetting process? Ultimately our nation's experiment in freedom depends upon the good will of honest people. It is impossible to write enough laws sufficiently detailed to corral people of evil intentions. If having every aspect of our experiment in self-rule depends upon lawyers rather than an honest heart, then our nation is in **serious** trouble!

By the way, a person of good will would have produced a $10 long form birth certificate and made other documents concerning his adoption ( etc.) available for review. That Obama hasn't is highly suspicious.

78 posted on 11/29/2008 10:22:26 PM PST by wintertime
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
My God, have Americans completely gone bat-s--t insane that they'll vote for a guy like Obama and put style over substance?

But it's OK, because he's black. That means black people are so impatient for a black president that anyone will do, and it means that white people will have lowered their standards for what they would expect from a president because they are afraid to question anyone black due to fear of being called racist. Plus, the cool people say Barack is cool.

79 posted on 11/29/2008 10:34:05 PM PST by Yaelle
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To: TChad
from the certificate that you linked, is in fact missing from the certificate that you linked. That certificate shows no hospital name and no physician.

It is NOT a certificate, it is a CERTIFICATION, two very different things!!!

80 posted on 11/29/2008 10:44:18 PM PST by danamco
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