Ladies: What has your experience been?
Baloney.
Wouldn’t work for me. My first marriage, I proposed in spite of it, not because of it. Now that I’m older, my tolerance for bitchiness approaches zero.
It worked for Hilary and Michelle.
B.S.
Before marriage, we had fun.
After marriage, she changed.
And that was 14 years ago.
In my case, it was to get closer to her sister.
Probably not the best strategy in retrospect.
Owl_Eagle
If what I just wrote made you sad or angry,
it was probably just a joke.
Baloney!! a man doesn’t propose because you’re nice or mean, he proposes because he loves you. I know I was both, and he still proposed, because we also both knew how to own up when we messed up.
It’s a large mountain of crap.
The way to my heart is by being an exceptional, nice person, not somebody I can’t stand to be around.
I do not agree with the headline. I stay clear of ****. I do agree that a relationship with someone who knows who they are and what they want in life is refreshing. In fact, this applies to non-romantic relationships, including business dealings and friendships.
Confidence and in control of your life does NOT make you a b!tch. Get real. It makes you an adult, period.
The author is mistaking bitchiness with confidence. Confidence and a sense of self is very attractive, but too many women think that being antagonistic is the same thing. It isn’t. You see this with women in business as well.
Bitchiness may lead to a proposal but it will most likely be the cause of an unhappy marriage leading to divorce.
Happy marriages are about compromise and respect. Bitches don’t compromise, and rarely show respect.
This book does not encourage anyone to be a bitch in the usual sense of the word. By "bitch" the writer appears to mean a calm, logical, assertive woman who stands on her own two feet, respects herself, and doesn't go crawling and begging after men. It decidedly does not mean someone who is bad-tempered, insulting, demanding, or obnoxious.
On to my experiences:
I really have found that it's possible to be too nice, too supportive, too forgiving. No one respects a worm who crawls around on her belly begging for attention, pleading for love, whining, crying, pouting, and generally being in the position of the petitioner. Men do seem to prefer women who are wholly supportive but are also strong and not needy.
When I was young I made the mistake several times of getting into a position of loving a man more than he loved me. It was humiliating. The best and closest relationships I've had with men developed when we both knew that I loved them, but was not helpless and dependent on them for emotional sustenance; I had my own life, my own interests, and seemed that much more desirable for not whining or manipulating to get his time.
This book is amusing but also offers some good practical advice. It specifically advises marriage-minded women NOT to manipulate men. Most of the men I know who have read it agreed with what it said, despite the alarming title.
“Gentleman: Do you agree with the premise of the article? “
Nope.
Uh...no...
It should be a warning, not an inticement.
In India it is not the norm for people to sleep together, much less live together, before getting married. That’s a strong incentive for marriage. In the West, the old saying “Why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free?” seems to have been largely forgotten, and women wonder why their boyfriends don’t propose.
My parents are Indian (I was born here), as is my wife.
no. if I so much as sensed bitchiness in a woman while dating, it was the last date.
there is only room for one to bitchy in my relationships and it has to be me.
fortunately, my wife understands! :-)
Not at all. Women, if you want to brow-beat a weak-willed male into proposing, be a b####. But dont be shocked when you hate eacb other in 5 years, he cheats on you, and he treats you like cr@p in a passive-aggressive (wimp’s route) kind of way...
...are not ipso facto "bitches".
Think Sarah Palin vs. Hillary Clinton.
One thing that hasn't changed is that you catch more flies with honey than you do with vinegar.
Any man worth a d@mn won't put up with that crap, no matter how pretty, skilled, or rich a woman might be.
Ten for looks, 1 for attitude, averages out to a 1.
OTOH, I have known many women who were relatively plain in appearance, who were animated by their personality, intelligence, or sense of humor (or all of those) to appear to the knowing as absolutely beautiful.
YMMV.
I have never had any relationship with bitches that lasted longer than a nanosecord. Why bother when there are plenty of women available who can make your life better and happier with out the nastiness?
Now I am assuming that a bitch is more than just a woman who wants her way and lets it be known.