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A Must Read About Dual CitizenshipThis has nothing to do with birth certificates!!)
TD Blog ^ | 7/25/2008 | Judah Benjamin

Posted on 11/18/2008 4:51:08 AM PST by LongIslandConservative

This originally appeared on Texasdarlin in the summer, but it is even more important now with the Donofrio case in front of SCOTUS. It is lengthy but very relevant. Please see both parts 1 & 2 of the article.

Who is eligible to be POTUS under Article II of the Constitution and why? The answer isn’t what most people think and people need to know! People made a big ruckus about McCain’s eligibility but what about Obama? He may have held anything up to 4 other Nationalities. If a Naturalized Citizen cannot hold the Office of POTUS neither can a Dual National or a Dual Citizen. Article II of the Constitution of the United States DOES NOT mean what almost everybody thinks that it means. When it says, “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; ….and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.”, it ISN’T talking about WHERE the POTUS is born.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: bc; birthcertificate; birthcertificategate; conman; eligibilty; fakepresident; falsepresident; fraud; ineligible; qualifications; supremecourt

1 posted on 11/18/2008 4:51:08 AM PST by LongIslandConservative
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To: LongIslandConservative

"No, the Framers were talking about Allegiance, Loyalty. The POTUS had to have only ONE Allegiance. The old Precedent Case for Article II was United States v. Rhodes and in that Case Justice Swayne said, “All persons born in the Allegiance of the King are Natural- Born subjects, and all persons born in the Allegiance of the United States are Natural-Born Citizens. Birth and Allegiance go together. Such is the Rule of the Common Law, and it is the Common Law of this Country…since as before the Revolution.”

Swayne was quoting the Precedent of English Common Law and Justice Sir William Blackstone, who said: “And this maxim of the law proceeded upon a general principle, that every man owes natural allegiance where he is born, and cannot owe two such allegiances, or serve two masters, at once.”

Blackstone states unequivocally that Dual Nationality is IMPOSSIBLE as a condition, you can only have ONE Allegiance. Chief Justice Jay believed that and so did every one of the Framers. The fact that we don’t see things that way today isn’t the point. They did, and it means that someone with Dual Nationality is Ineligible by definition. That Law has stood as a principle since 1337 and before.

US Law says nothing about Dual Nationality at all, it simply accepts that some people have it, but if Naturalized Citizens cannot be POTUS because they have previously had another Allegiance, and that is exactly why they can’t, then Dual Nationals can’t either, in fact there is less excuse for them."

2 posted on 11/18/2008 4:57:36 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: LongIslandConservative
On July 25th, 1787, John Jay wrote to George Washington, then Presiding Officer of the Constitutional Convention:

"“Permit me to hint, whether it would be wise and seasonable to provide a strong check to the admission of Foreigners into the administration of our national Government; and to declare expressly that the Commander in Chief of the American Army shall not be given to nor devolve on, any but a natural born Citizen.”

The Convention agreed and without debate the provision suggested by Jay was written into the Constitution.

That Jay’s advice was taken is not surprising because in his career Jay was President of the Continental Congress, Chief Justice of the New York Supreme Court, 1st Chief Justice of the United States, Ambassador to Spain and France, Secretary of Foreign Affairs (Secretary of State) and Governor of New York, among other things. He wasn’t a man whose advice could be ignored. Note that what particularly concerned Jay was not a political issue but a military issue arising because the President is Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces of the United States. He was bothered by issues of National Security."

3 posted on 11/18/2008 5:00:36 AM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Diogenesis

I was surprised that FR was down for so long today.

There is a case currently in front of the US Supreme Court regarding this matter.

Docket# 08A407
Leo C. Donofrio, Applicant v. Nina Mitchell Wells, New Jersey Secretary of State

Anyone can find the case on the www.Supremecourtus.gov website.

It was originally denied on Nov. 6 by Justice Souter due to a procedural techicality but on Nov. 14 was resubmitted to Justice Thomas.


4 posted on 11/18/2008 1:09:20 PM PST by LongIslandConservative
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