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Is John McCain a Natural-Born Citizen of the U.S.?
snopes.com | July 23, 20008

Posted on 07/23/2008 3:15:26 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot

I didn't post a link to this because I wasn't sure if we could link to snopes.com, but I felt it important enough to post.

It's amazing that no one in the MSM is at all concerned whether or not Obama is a natural-born citizen, but we better make damn sure McCain is!

Check out how thorough snopes researches the question. Plus the fact that they claim the status is "undetermined."

This was posted today at snopes.


TOPICS: Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; canalzone; certifigate; colbaquiddic; herewegoagain; mccain; naturalborn
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1 posted on 07/23/2008 3:15:27 PM PDT by FortWorthPatriot
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To: FortWorthPatriot

Been covered ad-nauseum.


2 posted on 07/23/2008 3:16:31 PM PDT by xcamel (Being on the wrong track means the unintended consequences express train doesnt kill you going by)
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3 posted on 07/23/2008 3:17:52 PM PDT by Perdogg
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This is probably the five hundredth thread on FR about this.


4 posted on 07/23/2008 3:18:15 PM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

I propose that we put both candidates to the test. Both should be required to demonstrate that they qualify as a natural-born citizen.

Whats fair for one should be fair for both. Anyone running for the office should be prepared to prove he meets the legal requirements for office.


5 posted on 07/23/2008 3:18:25 PM PDT by marron
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To: FortWorthPatriot
Threads on this topic.
6 posted on 07/23/2008 3:19:20 PM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: FortWorthPatriot
Do a little research. Snopes can be wrong if politics or ideology are involved.

Instapundit or Volokh Conspiracy are good legal web sites.

To be blunt, the horse is dead jim, you can stop beating it.

7 posted on 07/23/2008 3:20:10 PM PDT by fireforeffect (A kind word and a 2x4, gets you more than just a kind word.)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

You haven’t been paying attention. This has been covered and recovered for months.


8 posted on 07/23/2008 3:20:27 PM PDT by dbacks (Should we really elect a man that would not be allowed to be an airport baggage screener?)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

Is John McCain a Natural-Born Citizen of the U.S.?

If only it were true that he is not!

Then McCain could be booted from the nomination for a legitimate reason and a viable candidate could be selected at the convention.

See if you can get the necessary proof.
You will be a hero to millions upon millions.


9 posted on 07/23/2008 3:25:38 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself.)
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To: FortWorthPatriot

Have you considered searching previous threads first?


10 posted on 07/23/2008 3:26:44 PM PDT by mgstarr ("Some of us drink because we're not poets." Arthur (1981))
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This stuff again???????????? Good Lord...


11 posted on 07/23/2008 3:26:48 PM PDT by cubreporter
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To my way of thinking John McCain is more of citizen than what is his name again Noboma!
12 posted on 07/23/2008 3:29:43 PM PDT by mountainlion (Concerned Conservative.)
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To: marron; Congressman Billybob
Whats fair for one should be fair for both. Anyone running for the office should be prepared to prove he meets the legal requirements for office.

That ought to be the law. I was talking to executive director of the Republican Party of Texas last week, and he says that third parties have no standing to challenge the credentials of a candidate to hold the office for which they are running. Candidates are required to sign an affidavit swearing that they meet the qualifications for office, but don't have to provide proof. The only persons with standing to challenge a candidate's qualifications for office are other candidates for the same office, and even then the burden of proof is on the person making the challenge.

13 posted on 07/23/2008 3:30:04 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Drill Here. Drill Now. Pay Less.)
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To: FortWorthPatriot
Yes, because the first Congress's first Naturalization Law (1790) says: "And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens."

But the strange thing is how many people, myself included, erroneously learned in school that a President had to be born within the borders of the country.

14 posted on 07/23/2008 3:33:26 PM PDT by x
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To: FortWorthPatriot

Never heard of this Juan McCain.


15 posted on 07/23/2008 3:39:03 PM PDT by crazyhorse691 (With McCain around we can proudly proclaim, WE ARE SO SCREWED)
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To: xcamel

.."somebody wake me when this story dies"

16 posted on 07/23/2008 3:45:07 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Iron Munro

You are wishful thinking. John McCain is a legitimately born American.


17 posted on 07/23/2008 3:51:43 PM PDT by Alia
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To: FortWorthPatriot

McCain likely has a Birth Certificate issued by the Department of State.

I wish it were that simple to eliminate this guy as a candidate.


18 posted on 07/23/2008 3:53:57 PM PDT by Radix (Think it is bad now? Wait until you have to press "2" for English!)
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To: x

My early education was DOD schools. I didn’t learn about the “borders” thing. I learned the writ of the laws in re being born in another country and being born an American citizen. And since most all my classmates were also born in other countries, Americans, all of us, it was important for us to know this.


19 posted on 07/23/2008 3:54:02 PM PDT by Alia
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Read this case, it has to do with whether someone born in this country to resident alien parents is a citizen according to the Fourteenth Amendment, but much would apply to how the courts would define Natural Born. I have written before about how Congress not the courts should decide this issue but the legal reasoning would apply to either forum.

U.S. Supreme Court
U.S. v. WONG KIM ARK, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

169 U.S. 649

UNITED STATES
v.
WONG KIM ARK.
No. 132.

March 28, 1898
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=169&invol=649

20 posted on 07/23/2008 3:56:47 PM PDT by Libertarianize the GOP (Make all taxes truly voluntary)
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