Tests Confirm T. Rex Kinship With Birds

NYT ^ | April 25, 2008 | JOHN NOBLE WILFORD

[LiteKeeper]

Their pulmonary system is a flow-through, rather than in-and-out as we do. This ensures a constant supply of oxygen during flight. For an "in-and-out" breather to become a "flow-through" breather would require some kind of a hole to open up in the system. This is a virtual impossibility.

Dinos breathed like birds?

[SunkenCiv]

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[allmendream]

Once again genetic data confirms morphological data about the interrelatedness of two different types of animals, providing supporting evidence of their common ancestry.

After many millions of data points only the willingly ignorant could claim to be surprised by this.

[RightWhale]

While I like feeding the finch because they eat the wasps, maybe they also eat the bees and that is why the spruce and alder and willow didn’t bloom last year.

[Soliton]

After many millions of data points only the willingly ignorant could claim to be surprised by this.

Yeah, and then they will set up a religion caucus open to them alone so they can discuss how science expells free thinkers

[Soliton]

While I like feeding the finch because they eat the wasps, maybe they also eat the bees and that is why the spruce and alder and willow didn’t bloom last year.

How many beans in a beanbag, true or false?

[RightWhale]

This is a virtual impossibility.

I don't remember if it was Asimov or Clarke: If a noted scientist says somethign is possible, he is probably correct. If a noted scientist says something is impossible he is probably wrong.

[RightWhale]

Yesterday’s thread, con’t.

[LiteKeeper]

Saying it doesn’t make it so...that is simply the perspective of an individual(s)

[weegee]

The birds and the bees are at war?

[Coyoteman]

I don't remember if it was Asimov or Clarke: If a noted scientist says somethign is possible, he is probably correct. If a noted scientist says something is impossible he is probably wrong.

Arthur C. Clarke formulated the following three "laws" of prediction:

When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.

The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Isaac Asimov wrote a corollary to Clarke's First Law, stating

When, however, the lay public rallies round an idea that is denounced by distinguished but elderly scientists and supports that idea with great fervor and emotion -- the distinguished but elderly scientists are then, after all, probably right.

[RightWhale]

The wasps got an early and strong start last spring and refused the wasp traps, but then the small birds, who travel together although of several species, arrived and began to pick them out of the air. Very nimble, acrobatic. I wonder how the birds can eat the wasps without getting indigestion, but there it was. The wasps were gone in about three weeks and their nests soon dissolved in the rain.

[Steve Van Doorn]

Then the question is. Where did the chemicals come from?

Where did matter come from?... it goes on and on...

[Soliton]

And when we can’t know the answer, we invent big invisible people in the sky to fill the void.

[Steve Van Doorn]

The way i see it, very simply. There is some degree of evolution but what changes things and what created matter and space in the first place?

[Steve Van Doorn]

yeap I agree with analogy. Until then I will have to go with the best theory that is available to me.

[CholeraJoe]

T. Rex quacked!

[Steve Van Doorn]

and most likely had feathers.

[miliantnutcase]

I want to believe T-rex could really move as fast has in Jurassic park. I’m sick of hearing people theorizing he was a slow scavenger when I look at ostriches with very similar body mechanics and how explosive they can be running. T-rex’s body looks almost 50-50 in weight distribution from head to tail, skeleton is so well balanced...just like modern birds.

[Soliton]

When I was in middle school, I wrote a paper on how T-Rex probably hopped. I based it on the similarities in morphology to the kangaroo. I got an A for the argument and lots of laughs in the teachers’ lounge.