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Can a Conservative Love Rock 'N Roll and Hate Country Music?
History News Network ^ | November 12, 2007 | Peter La Chapelle

Posted on 02/09/2008 6:47:13 AM PST by FUMETTI

The notion that country music is, and has always been, politically conservative seems so ingrained in our culture that it passes not just for cliché, but as a truism beyond reproach.

Take for instance the media commentary that followed Dixie Chicks frontwoman Natalie Maines's well-publicized criticisms of President George W. Bush back in 2003.

In the Associated Press's coverage of the controversy, one leading country radio programmer wondered whether Maines had considered the political demographics of her audience, saying that country is “more on the right than on the left and it’s always been that way.”

Even CMT.com editorial director Chet Flippo, a fine writer of country music histories and biographies, found himself buying into the country-is-conservative maxim, criticizing the Dixie Chicks for their comments because they should have understood that country fans “are largely conservative and patriotic—as is well known.”

Flippo may have the patriotism part correct, but his understanding of the historical connections between country music and politics is only partly intact.

True, some of the earliest promoters of country music were from the farthest reaches of the Right, the Ku Klux Klan and car maker Henry Ford who both sponsored old-time fiddling contests, which, for Ford, at least, became a way of counteracting what he believed to be the corrupting black and Jewish influences of jazz. And yes, there was Nashville patrician and perennial Republican gubernatorial candidate Roy Acuff who lampooned FDR's Social Security plan in his 1939 recording "Old Age Pension."

But much of the genre's history has been connected with politicians and political causes of a liberal or left-of-center nature or, perhaps even more often, with a woolly, anti-elitist, populist politics that eschewed categorization but certainly did not align itself with patricians of any stripe.

This is especially true of the musician activists and musicians-turned-politicians of the 1930s and 1940s.

Though he later threw his lot in with the economically-conservative wing of the Texas Democratic Party, country music's first governor, W. Lee "Pappy" O'Daniel, a former announcer for radio's country-jazz outfit the Light Crust Doughboys, initially ran as an outsider on a populist platform that included old age pensions and an end to the death penalty. O'Daniel punctuated campaign stops with performances of his own band, the Hillbilly Boys.

Similarly complicated was radio hillbilly pioneer Fiddlin’ John Carson, a figure linked philosophically by historians to the Populist Party, especially its economic collectivism but also the segregationist leanings that later cropped among former party members such as Tom Watson. In the 1930s, Carson, however, championed the liberal Franklin Delano Roosevelt, lauding his efforts for farmers in "Hurrah for Roosevelt."

Perhaps more squarely in the New Deal-liberal camp was Milton Brown and his Musical Brownies, a seminal Texas hillbilly-jazz band that recorded “Fall in Line with the N.R.A," a celebratory ode to FDR and his National Recovery Administration.

Often lost in this discussion too is Woody Guthrie, perhaps the most prominent of American protest singers. Guthrie--known for his pro-organized labor, anti-segregation, and pro-working man ballads, for his patriotic standard "This Land is Your Land," and for his influence on 1960s folk artists and folk rockers such as Phil Ochs and Bob Dylan--actually started out as a commercial country music artist on Los Angeles radio station KFVD.

While performing on KFVD, Guthrie not only emulated the music and mannerisms of national country radio stars Jimmie Rodgers and the Carter Family, but even performed advertisements for grocery stores and car lots. Though some might want to peg Guthrie as a "folk singer" by noting that he later turned against the commercialization of music, any distinction between "folk" and "country" would have been artificial in Guthrie's KFVD days when industry and the trade journals used the two terms interchangeably and when Guthrie had no problem broadcasting endorsements.

Guthrie began to take a public stance on political issues after noticing how O'Daniel's successes had prompted other hillbilly musicians to run for office in the hopes of getting elected "on one good greasy string." Guthrie's first forays involved promoting a state "Ham and Eggs" pension plan measure and supporting center-left New Dealer Culbert L. Olson's bid for governor of California in 1938. By the time he left Los Angeles in 1939, Guthrie advocated "Production for Use," a plan in which idle factories would be seized by the state and returned to production as a means of reducing unemployment.

A committed political activist, Guthrie ultimately bequeathed commercial country music such standards as “Oklahoma Hills,” popularized by his cousin Jack Guthrie in the 1940s and reaching number seven on the charts for honky-tonker Hank Thompson in 1961, and “Philadelphia Lawyer (Reno Blues),” fodder for a popular early Rose Maddox cover as well as a recent duet by Merle Haggard and Willie Nelson in line with the pair’s series of bandit odes.

But recognition of Guthrie as a country artist has been slow. Though Marty Stuart raised the issue of Guthrie's induction into the Country Music Hall of Fame at a 2003 tribute to the singer-songwriter in Nashville, he remains untapped.

Country music's gender politics have similarly resisted being a singular domain of conservatism, even amid the restrictive 1950s. The country music subculture of Los Angeles, a dynamic spawning ground in the postwar era, not only produced Jean Shepard who sang about how "women ought to rule the world" in a 1953 recording, but also Carolina Cotton who was noted in the trade press for being a honorary sheriff, a rodeo queen, an "expert at wrestling and judo," and "a crack shot with a .45 or rifle."

Forgotten too is the left-of-center Southern California country-rock scene of the 1960s that I survey in the final chapter of my book, Proud to Be an Okie, as well as the larger Southern California folk-rock milieu that Domenic Priore discusses in his recent book, Riot on Sunset Strip. Gram Parsons and Chris Hillman, members of the 1968 incarnation of the Byrds who would break away to form the straight-country band the Flying Burrito Brothers, borrowed motifs from country songwriting tradition such as a general suspicion of official authority and the genre's traditional "aunt" and "uncle" terminology to sing out against the Vietnam War. Drawing from bluegrass and the Bakersfield steel guitar sound, Parsons and Hillman also sought to reconcile the countercultural hippie heroes of their lyrics with the hillbillies, drifters, working poor, and other outsiders who have always had a place in country song.

Perhaps the national amnesia about country's liberal, populist, and leftwing roots will fade as artists as varied in politics and style as Merle Haggard, Iris DeMent, Willie Nelson, the Old Crow Medicine Show, Butch Hancock, I See Hawks in L.A., Bobby Braddock, Tom Snider, Nanci Griffith, Steve Earle, and Allison Moorer sing out against the Iraq War, or other more mainstream artists such as Tim McGraw and Tracy Lawrence bemoan its consequences.

But when will the genre's dominant institution, the Country Music Hall of Fame, begin to acknowledge the genre's historical political diversity?

Fan Will Harnack has launched a website to get the Burritos' Parsons, a central influence on the multi-platinum Eagles, inducted into the Hall of Fame.

But perhaps the larger tragedy is that someone as central to American music history, politics, and the genre as Woody Guthrie still has not been inducted.

Cleveland's Rock and Roll Hall of Fame found room in its house to induct Guthrie, who remains an inspiration to outspoken country and rock performers across the political spectrum, back in 1988.

Perhaps it is time for the Country Music Hall of Fame to reconsider.


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Freeoples; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: country; countrymusic; music; rock; rocknroll
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I have been a conservative for many years but a Beatles fan for more years. Sean Hannity has always touted country music fans on Hannity and Colmes and his radio show, FOX always has a country artist on its shows, and conservative rallies always features country artists.

Can a conservative love rock 'n roll? I am sorry, Freepers, I prefer Nirvana to Nudie, I like the Stones over Rascal Flatts, and the Who over Martina McBride. I wince at the deep voiced dudes with the cowboy hats covering their receding hairlines talking about honky tonks, the wife who done me wrong, and my hunting dog by the swamp. Most country music is actually pop music with a fiddle, anyway. It is not anything more than Britney Spears with a steel guitar hear and there.

I can't stand country music, yet I am a conservative through and through. Give me Nickelback, John Mellencamp, CCR, the Ramones, the Sex Pistols, Aerosmith, and ZZ Top over Randy Travis and the other country stars.

Can you be conservative and love rock 'n roll, I ask again?

1 posted on 02/09/2008 6:47:15 AM PST by FUMETTI
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To: FUMETTI

I’m a heavy metal conservative. Megadeth, Metallica etc but I don’t hate country.


2 posted on 02/09/2008 6:49:44 AM PST by cripplecreek (Duncan Hunter, Conservative excellence in action.)
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To: FUMETTI

Yes, listening to The Immigrant Song by Led Zeppelin right now


3 posted on 02/09/2008 6:50:05 AM PST by callisto (CONGRESS.SYS corrupted...Re-boot Washington DC (Y/N)?)
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To: cripplecreek

I am a heavy metal conservative myself, a little Godsmack, Metallica and some Soulfly gets me going, I dont care for country that much though.


4 posted on 02/09/2008 6:55:21 AM PST by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: FUMETTI

Absolutely! My daughter is a staunch conservative. So is my 16 yr old grandaughter. They both hate country music.


5 posted on 02/09/2008 6:55:54 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: cripplecreek

I love Metallica...the entire Black Album is on my iPod!


6 posted on 02/09/2008 6:57:03 AM PST by FUMETTI (Hillary, burn those pantsuits)
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To: callisto

That is another group I love...I hear they are reuniting minus Bonham of course. I will pay anything to see their reunion tour.


7 posted on 02/09/2008 6:58:10 AM PST by FUMETTI (Hillary, burn those pantsuits)
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Hi. I’m kimmie7 and I HATE country music.

Wow, I feel so much better! *whew*


8 posted on 02/09/2008 6:58:53 AM PST by kimmie7 (At the end of the day it comes down to the Lord and me, not me and the GOP.)
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To: FUMETTI; mylife

YES!! Without a doubt. Country music is awful.

As for political content, no boot-scooter can hold a candle to Rush. 2112 is a libertarian masterpiece.


9 posted on 02/09/2008 6:59:08 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The GOP is no place for a nice Conservative like you.)
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To: aft_lizard

I miss Godsmack....they had some great stuff out in the late 1990s.


10 posted on 02/09/2008 6:59:17 AM PST by FUMETTI (Hillary, burn those pantsuits)
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To: ovrtaxt

Its all good.

I saw the 2112 concert. It was brilliant


11 posted on 02/09/2008 7:00:34 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: ovrtaxt

I always thought it was a slight for the rock ‘n roll hall of fame to not have RUSH in its halls. But Jan Wenner is more about getting rap acts in right now, so don’t expect them, Jethro Tull, and Moody Blues in there either.


12 posted on 02/09/2008 7:00:40 AM PST by FUMETTI (Hillary, burn those pantsuits)
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To: mylife

You saw them live in what, 75? Dang I’m jealous.


13 posted on 02/09/2008 7:01:39 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The GOP is no place for a nice Conservative like you.)
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To: kimmie7

Kimmie, the only rock star they ever show on FOX is Ted Nugent, and he has not had a hit since he was in Damned Yankees. I think FOX should feature more rock acts who are conservative.

I have heard GENE SIMMONS of KISS and C C Deville of Poison are conservatives...they do exist.


14 posted on 02/09/2008 7:02:15 AM PST by FUMETTI (Hillary, burn those pantsuits)
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To: kimmie7

Kimmie, the only rock star they ever show on FOX is Ted Nugent, and he has not had a hit since he was in Damned Yankees. I think FOX should feature more rock acts who are conservative.

I have heard GENE SIMMONS of KISS and C C Deville of Poison are conservatives...they do exist.


15 posted on 02/09/2008 7:02:15 AM PST by FUMETTI (Hillary, burn those pantsuits)
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His son, Jason, will be playing drums for the reunion show. Not a bad drummer either. I would love to see their show!!!


16 posted on 02/09/2008 7:02:52 AM PST by callisto (CONGRESS.SYS corrupted...Re-boot Washington DC (Y/N)?)
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To: FUMETTI

Yeah, Rush is one of those bands forgotten by the industry geeks, but rabidly loved anyway.


17 posted on 02/09/2008 7:02:53 AM PST by ovrtaxt (The GOP is no place for a nice Conservative like you.)
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To: FUMETTI

I’m a rocker from the get go, though I do like the old country (especially Johnny Cash). Can’t stand modern country, sounds like 70s soft rock with an accent, and 70s soft rock was bad enough the first time around and doesn’t really improve with an accent.

I really don’t think there’s much of a connection between a person’s musical taste and politics. Musicians, like all artists, trend toward liberalism because they’re emotion based people and liberalism is emotion based politics. But just because it makes your toes tap doesn’t mean it drives the mind. Some of the best music made is 60s anti-war music, lyrically it’s completely wrong headed and stupid, but the level of conviction behind it makes it musically compelling.


18 posted on 02/09/2008 7:04:05 AM PST by discostu (a mountain is something you don't want to %^&* with)
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To: FUMETTI

Woody Guthrie was a raving socialist.

That said, he was a great songwriter and the display at the Rock and roll hall of fame is a hoot! all his instruments carved up with slogans like “This machine kills fascism”


19 posted on 02/09/2008 7:04:37 AM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mylife

2112...an Excellent album! This thread is going to make me feel very old school before it’s end. LOL


20 posted on 02/09/2008 7:04:58 AM PST by callisto (CONGRESS.SYS corrupted...Re-boot Washington DC (Y/N)?)
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