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Should the Democratic Party Apologize for Slavery?
02/08/08 | rkoliver

Posted on 02/08/2008 10:31:24 AM PST by rkoliver

Should the Democratic Party Apologize for Supporting Slavery?

by Robert Oliver Editor, San Diego County Times

There is a saying – “God cannot change the truth.”

I’m an African-American political independent. The purpose of this article is not to debate the merits of belonging to a certain political party nor to pursue political converts. The purpose is to clarify history and to ask does the Democratic Party owe African Americans an apology for past support of slavery and racism?

February is Black History Month. Sometimes Black History needs clarification. For example, a friend told me that an African-American employee in his New York City office thought that President Abraham Lincoln was a Democrat. Another African-American friend, a former liaison between the Democrats in the California State Legislature and the Clinton White House, well as a campaigner for Bill Clinton’s presidency, thought that the slave owners in the Old South were all Republicans. He thought that the worst Democrat was better than the best Republican. I was even told that an African American woman in Illinois actually thought that it was illegal for a Black person to vote Republican! Based on that sampling, it is possible that a vast number of African Americans are laboring under similar false beliefs about Democrats and Republicans?

Congressman Jesse Jackson, Jr. of Illinois said: “before the Civil War, the Democratic slave masters used to hold anti-black conventions.” Hence, there were no Republican slave masters at all. Why? The Republican Party was formed in the 1850’s for the purpose of abolishing slavery and polygamy. The Republican National Committee website (www.rnc.com) says: “The Republican Party was born in the early 1850's by anti-slavery activists and individuals who believed that government should grant western lands to settlers free of charge.”

Look at a portion of the 1860 platform: “That the normal condition of all the territory of the United States is that of freedom; That as our Republican fathers, when they had abolished slavery in all our national territory, ordained that ‘no person should be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law,’ it becomes our duty, by legislation, whenever such legislation is necessary, to maintain this provision of the Constitution against all attempts to violate it; and we deny the authority of Congress, of a territorial legislature, or of any individuals, to give legal existence to Slavery in any Territory of the United States….That we brand the recent re-opening of the African slave- trade, under the cover of our national flag, aided by perversions of judicial power, as a shame to (a) crime against humanity and a burning (for) our country and age; and we call upon Congress to take prompt and efficient measures for the total and final suppression of that execrable traffic.” (To their credit, there were Northern Democrats who supported President Lincoln during the Civil War.)

I’m somewhat curious about some information on the Democratic National Committee’s (DNC) website (www.democrats.org/about/history.html). The late Ron Brown, former Chairman of the Democratic National Committee said: “The common thread of Democratic history, from Thomas Jefferson to Bill Clinton, has been an abiding faith in the judgment of hardworking American families, and a commitment to helping the excluded, the disenfranchised and the poor strengthen our nation by earning themselves a piece of the American Dream. We remember that this great land was sculpted by immigrants and slaves, their children and grandchildren…." Wait a minute! From Thomas Jefferson to Bill Clinton helping the excluded, the disenfranchised and the poor? All of the slave masters were Democrats. How many other Democratic Presidents before the Civil War opposed slavery? The answer is none. The Democrats kept in bondage those who were excluded, those who were disenfranchised and those who were poor – Black slaves. Rest in peace Ron Brown, but were you were ignorant of your own party’s history or did you lie through your teeth?

According to the PBS’s American Experience website (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/lincolns/politics/tl_tree.html) it says of the Democratic Party platform in 1840: “They opposed the government's interference with the spread of slavery.” It also said in 1852: “Democrats also supported the provisions of the Compromise of 1850 and united along pro-slavery lines.” It also said in 1856: “Democrats again united along a pro-slavery platform, endorsing states' rights, the Fugitive Slave Law, and popular sovereignty in the territories.

Mackubin T. Owens writes in his editorial “The Democratic Party’s Legacy of Racism” (http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/oped/owens/02/racism.html): “The most liberal position among ante-bellum Democrats regarding slavery was that slavery was an issue that should be decided by popular vote. For example, Stephen Douglas, Lincoln’s opponent in the 1858 Illinois senate race and the 1860 presidential campaign, advocated ‘popular sovereignty.’ He defended the right of the people in the territories to outlaw slavery, but also defended the right of Southerners to own slaves and transport them to the new territories.”

Whether or not some Republicans did not want slavery because they sincerely thought it was immoral or some did not want it for political reasons only, not out of love for the Black people (Lincoln thought that Blacks were inferior to Whites and there were northern states that barred Blacks from migrating into them), is irrelevant. The fact is that Republicans were never supporters of slavery, contrary to the belief of many African Americans today.

The PBS website on “The Rise and Fall of Jim Crow” (http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_org_democratic.html) said: “The Democratic Party identified itself as the ‘white man's party’ and demonized the Republican Party as being ‘Negro dominated,’ even though whites were in control.” Some Democrats formed the terrorist organization the Ku Klux Klan in the 1870’s. An article in the 1992 Encyclopedia Britannica under the “Reconstruction” heading reported: “The Democratic resentment led to the formation of the secret terroristic organizations such as the Ku Klux Klan and the Knights of the White Camilia. The use of fraud, violence, and intimidation helped Southern conservatives regain control of their state governments.” Blacks and White Republicans were the targets of the Klan’s wrath. All this information can be freely verified in libraries and on the Internet. My point is that in the minds of many African Americans today, the Republican Party is identified with the Ku Klux Klan. Until an African-American friend of mine learned the true history of both political parties, she thought the Republicans and the KKK were basically the same and published that imagery of that nature in a newspaper.

Look at these paragraphs concerning their history on the DNC’s website: “In 1848, the National Convention established the Democratic National Committee, now the longest running political organization in the world. The Convention charged the DNC with the responsibility of promoting ‘the Democratic cause’ between the conventions and preparing for the next convention. The next paragraph immediately says: “As the 19th Century came to a close, the American electorate changed more and more rapidly. The Democratic Party embraced the immigrants who flooded into cities and industrial centers, built a political base by bringing them into the American mainstream, and helped create the most powerful economic engine in history.” We leave 1848 and timewarp to the late 19th Century? Why the 50-year gap in the DNC history? What about the Democratic Party during the Civil War and Reconstruction? Why don’t they talk about the first Black government officials on state and federal levels? Is it because they were 100% Republican therefore persona non grata? A Black elected official I know personally admitted he did not know until recently that there were Blacks in Congress in the 19th Century. Why did not that website celebrate the constitutional amendments that formally abolished slavery and declared the former slaves citizens of the United States? Why was that significant part of history their history intentionally left out? Was it because they could not honestly claim that championing civil rights for Blacks, part of “the Democratic cause,” after the Civil War was a part of their history?

(As a matter of fact, do you recall any mention of the first Black governor, congressmen, or state representatives immediately after the Civil War in any Black History Month celebrations or programs? You hear of the first Black this and the first Black that, and that is wonderful. But you never, ever, hear about the first Black Americans in national or state government. Why is that?)

Did you know the “racist” Republican Barry Goldwater was a founding member of the Arizona NAACP? He was a member until his death in 1998! Could a White racist be a founding member of a Black civil-rights organization and a dues-paying member until his death? As an Air National Guard Colonel in the 1940’s, he desegregated the Arizona Air National Guard, 2 years BEFORE President Truman desegregated the entire Armed Forces. My mother, who is 87 years old, believed for the last 40 years that Barry Goldwater was a White supremacist. (I grew up believing he was a racist.) Now that my mother knows the real Goldwater, her 40-year bitterness toward him evaporated. She understands he voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act based on his libertarian philosophy as far as the federal government intruding into private affairs and not because of “racism.” Also Goldwater voted for two Civil Rights bills during the Eisenhower administration.

A Wikipedia article on the Democratic Party says: “The civil rights movement of the 1960s, championed by the party despite opposition at the time from its Southern wing, has continued to inspire the party's liberal principles.” Rev. Al Sharpton (who I respect for traveling to Sudan and exposing chattel slavery there) said at a recent Democratic Convention in Boston: “Mr. President, you said would we have more leverage if both parties got our votes, but we didn't come this far playing political games. It was those that earned our vote that got our vote. We got the Civil Rights Act under a Democrat (President Lyndon Baines Johnson). We got the Voting Rights Act under a Democrat. We got the right to organize under Democrats.” Rev. Sharpton, I really wish you would have mentioned too that it was because of Democrats, not because of Republicans, that we needed the protection of the 1964 Civil Rights Act and the 1965 Voting Rights Act. The Southern Democrats were the segregationists, not the Republicans. The Southern Democrats were responsible for Jim Crow, not the Republicans.

I have asked several Black people if a majority of Democrats or Republicans in Congress supported the 1964 Civil Rights Act. All but one said it was a Democratic majority. Therefore they believed it was a Democratic victory for civil rights. Have the Democrats claimed a victory that they never earned? Here is the historical record that you can look up today on the Internet: In 1964, in a Democratic Congressional majority, in the Senate, 82% of the Republicans voted for the Act while only 69% of the Democrats voted for it. Every Southern Democratic Senator voted against it. In the House of Representatives, 80% of the Republicans voted for the Act, while only 61% of the Democrats voted for it. Ninety-two of the 103 Southern Democrats in the House voted against it. It is all in the Congressional Record. Also the ignored or forgotten 1957 Civil Rights Act (which Senator Strom Thurmond tried to torpedo) and the 1960 Civil Rights Act, designed to protect us from the Southern Democrats, were passed by the majority of Republicans in Congress and signed into law by Republican President Eisenhower. Republicans, not Democrats, historically have been in the majority in support of civil rights legislation from the beginning of their history. Even Democratic Senator John F. Kennedy was no outstanding exponent for civil rights before his presidential bid. Who said, "The time has come for equality of opportunity in sharing in government, in education, and in employment. It will not be stayed or denied. It is here!"? It was Republican Senate Minority Leader Everett Dirksen speaking of the 1964 Civil Rights Act.

In the 1965 Voting Rights Act, in percentages, 73.4% of the Democratic Senators voted for the law and 93% of the Republican Senators voted for the law. 78.4% of the Democratic House Representatives voted for the law and 82.3% of the Republican House Representatives voted for the law.

Republican Senator Trent Lott was nothing to shout about. (Same for the late Democrat Dixiecrat turned Republican Strom Thurmond). Lott was pilloried by the media after his remarks praising a Thurmond Dixiecrat presidency. However, Democratic Senator Robert Byrd said on national television, “There are white niggers.” I have not heard any cries of protests from recognizable Black leaders and politicians. (You know who they are.) It was reported that Senator Carol Mosely Braun excused him by saying that he was just “an old man.” An older Black man I knew who hated, with venom, White and Black Republicans also defended Byrd! By the way, Senator Byrd was a member of the Ku Klux Klan, the "Invisible Empire of the South," years ago. He even recruited for the Klan as a “kleagle.” What if Trent Lott was an ex-Klan member and said “white niggers” on national television? We would have shouted “Crucify! Crucify!” right? We would have tarred and feathered him and ran him out of town. Was it because Byrd is a Democrat that we make excuses for him making racial slurs that no Republican could get away. He can get away with being a ex- Klan member while we tell the Republicans to “come clean”? Is not that “selective outrage” dysfunctional if not hypocritical?

Rev. Sharpton said we never got our “40 acres and a mule.” Yes, we did, and they were taken away by a Democrat. Reparations to Black slaves were discussed by Republicans after the Civil War. Political activist and researcher M.D. Currington (websites: mdcurrington.tripod.com/mdc and moteandbeam.tripod.com) writes, “On January 12, 1865, General William Tecumseh Sherman and Secretary of War Edwin M. Stanton met with twenty Black community leaders in Savannah, Georgia to discuss freedom and reparations for former Black slaves.…on January 16, 1865, General Sherman issued Special Field Order No. 15, which set aside 7,600 square miles in a 30-mile wide tract of land along the Atlantic coast stretching from Charleston, South Carolina to St. John’s River near Jacksonville, Florida, for the exclusive settlement by Blacks…This Field Order also guaranteed former slaves U.S. military protection, 40 acres of tillable land per Black family, other provisions such as a mule or horse in order to work the land, and any other animal that was no longer useful to the military. By June 1865, over 40,000 former slaves were settled on 40-acre tracts of land. Over 400,000 acres were allocated. In September of 1865, Democrat President Andrew Johnson reversed Field Order No. 15, issued special pardons, and returned the land to former slaveowners.” The Republicans gave, yet a Democrat took it away.

I was told that the Republicans of yesterday are the Democrats of today and vice versa. Former radio talk-show host and community activist Rev Wayne Perryman says in his book Unfounded Loyalty: “To praise the Democrats for what they did in the sixties is similar to praising a child who voluntarily cleans up part of his mess after tracking mud throughout the entire house.” He also quotes Black journalist Tony Brown (Tony Brown’s Journal on PBS): “It is out of ignorance of their own history that many Blacks demean the Republican philosophy and condemn Black Republicans. Blacks have been Republicans historically Frederick Douglass and the first twelve Blacks to serve as U.S. Congressman were Republicans. And Congressional White Republicans were the architects of Reconstruction, a ten-year period of unprecedented political power for Black people. Democrats working hand-in-hand with the Ku Klux Klan gave us Jim Crow Laws that effectively reenslaved Blacks. If you know this history, you have to wonder: How did Blacks move from the party that gave them civil and political rights to join forces with a party with a history of racist demagoguery, support of slavery, Jim Crow and lynchings?”

Let’s explore lynchings. Wikipedia says: “Lynching in the United States refers, primarily, to the practice in the 19th and 20th centuries of the humiliation and killing of people by mobs acting outside the law. These murders, most of them unpunished, often took the form of hanging and burning. To demonstrate a ritual of power, mobs sometimes tortured the victim… between 1880 and 1951 the Tuskegee Institute recorded lynchings of 3,437 African-American victims, as well as 1,293 white victims. Southern states completed disfranchisement of African Americans about the turn of the century. Their white Democratic representatives comprised such a powerful voting block in Congress that they consistently defeated Federal bills against lynching.” To its credit, the U.S. Senate, not the Democratic National Committee, in 2005 passed a resolution to apologize for failing to pass anti-lynching legislation. All the anti-lynching bills were initiated by Republicans. I did a Google search and what came up was “Your search – ‘Democratic anti-lynching’ - did not match any documents.”

Why did African Americans switch parties? The previously mentioned Wikipedia Democratic Party article also says: “From the end of the Civil War, African Americans favored the Republican Party. However, they began drifting to the Democratic Party in the 1930s, as Franklin Roosevelt's New Deal programs gave economic relief to all minorities, including African Americans and Hispanics. Support for the Civil Rights Movement in the 1960s by Democratic presidents John F. Kennedy and Lyndon B. Johnson helped give the Democrats even larger support among the African American community, although their position also alienated the Southern white population.” Rev Perryman wrote: “Prior to this time from 1866 to 1928, blacks had voted exclusively for the Republican ticket. Frustrated with the economy as well as with the Republican Party, the newspapers used their powerful voice to urge black voters to break tradition and vote Democrat. John Hope Franklin said, ‘The break was neither clean nor complete, however, for there were those who could not be persuaded to support the party that, after all, was the party of the Ku Klux Klan and other bigots”…Hard times were nothing new for the American Negro. They voted Democrat because the Pittsburgh Courier and other powerful black newspapers told their readers the ‘Republicans took their vote for granted.’”

Funny. Back then any Black person who voted Democrat would have been considered an “Uncle Tom” or a “handkerchief-head Negro” as the Democratic Party was “the party of the Ku Klux Klan and other bigots.”

Rev. Perryman also writes: “Modern-day Democrats must stop preaching that they are the compassionate party of black people and confess that it was their predecessors who started many of the racist practices that we are now trying to eradicate. History clearly shows two things: (1) that the roots of racism grew deep in the hearts and souls of the Democrats and (2) without the past efforts of the Radical Republicans and the Abolitionists, the Civil Rights Legislation of the sixties would not have been possible. Republicans laid the foundation for civil rights by passing legislation and instituting programs that Democrats’ were adamantly opposed to, such as:

1. The Thirteenth Amendment in 1865 to abolish slavery.

2. The Civil Rights Act of 1866 to give Negroes citizenship and protect freedmen from Black Codes and other repressive legislation.

3. The First Reconstruction Act of 1867 to provide more efficient Government of the Rebel- or Democratic-controlled states.

4. The Fourteenth Amendment in 1868 to make all persons born in the United States citizens. Part of this Amendment specifically states “No State shall deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law; or deny any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”

5. The Fifteenth Amendment of 1870 to give the right to vote to every citizen.

6. The Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 to stop Klan terrorists to terrorized black voters, Republicans, white teachers who taught blacks, and Abolitionists.

7. The Civil Rights Act of 1875 to protect all citizens in their civil and legal rights and to prohibit racial discrimination in places of public accommodation.

8. Freedmen Bureau was social programs established by Republicans to feed, protect, and educate the former slaves.

9. The 1957 Civil Rights Act and the 1960 Civil Rights Act were signed into law by President Eisenhower who also established the U.S. Civil Rights Commission in 1958, a commission that was rejected by Truman during his administration.

10. The 1964 Civil Rights Act which key Republicans pushed law through while key Southern Democrats like Al Gore Sr. debated against its passage. More Republicans (in percentages) voted for this law than Democrats.”

There is good and bad in both parties. A great example of good is pro-civil rights Democrat Congressman Bob Filner of Chula Vista, California. He was part of the Freedom Rides in the South in the early 1960’s and was even imprisoned for months by racist Democrats. His life was constantly in danger as some other Freedom Riders were murdered. The Republican Party is not completely virtuous too. It has dropped the ball a few times concerning Blacks. However, considering the immutable facts of history, which political party historically has a better civil rights and equality track record for Blacks?

Based on a correct interpretation of history based on documented facts, does the Democratic Party owe Black America an apology for past support of slavery, Jim Crow, the Ku Klux Klan, and violent acts of racism such as lynching? Since there has never been an offer of apology from the Democratic National Committee and 90% of the African American vote goes to the Democrats, don’t you think the answer should be YES?

But another important question that African-American voters should ask is what do we African Americans owe the Democratic Party?


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1 posted on 02/08/2008 10:31:30 AM PST by rkoliver
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To: rkoliver
10. The 1964 Civil Rights Act which key Republicans pushed law through while key Southern Democrats like Al Gore Sr. debated against its passage.

Well he also participated in the filibuster.

June 10, 1964
Civil Rights Filibuster Ended

At 9:51 on the morning of June 10, 1964, Senator Robert C. Byrd completed an address that he had begun 14 hours and 13 minutes earlier. The subject was the pending Civil Rights Act of 1964, a measure that occupied the Senate for 57 working days, including six Saturdays. A day earlier, Democratic Whip Hubert Humphrey, the bill's manager, concluded he had the 67 votes required at that time to end the debate.

2 posted on 02/08/2008 10:37:36 AM PST by Always Right (Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?)
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To: rkoliver
Hence, there were no Republican slave masters at all.

Perhaps an overstatement, as it is likely there were some in the border states. However, they were most definitely a tiny minority.

3 posted on 02/08/2008 10:39:41 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: rkoliver

The people who owned slaves are dead. Only they would have the ability to apologize. This “apology” PC culture is stoooopid.


4 posted on 02/08/2008 10:47:33 AM PST by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: rkoliver

No, unless they still have been keeping slaves. But they should apologize to the African-American community for the bondage that has plagued it as a result of Lyndon Johnson’s “Great Society”.


5 posted on 02/08/2008 10:49:03 AM PST by brooklyn dave ("I'll take Manhattan, the Bronx and Staten Island Too" LALALALA)
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I don’t think it’s a question of whether they should. They will. In fact, if Obama is elected, they’ll start with the apology and admission of guilt. Then they’re move quickly to reparations. And finally, you are going to see the confiscation of white farms in the south by the end of his second term. It will all be done in the name of “affirmative action” — which they will tout as a well-established and respected principle of law.


6 posted on 02/08/2008 10:57:11 AM PST by lapster
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To: rkoliver

I understand the valid point you are making, that many think Democrats have always been anti slavery. The democrats in much of the South referred to themselves as the Southern Rights Party...and the right was to own slaves.

This line, however, doesn’t compliment the republicans.

“The Republican Party was born in the early 1850’s by anti-slavery activists and individuals who believed that government should grant western lands to settlers free of charge.”

Those advocating settling ‘western lands’ were known as Free Soilers. The lands they were after, and got, were the last of the lands given by treaty to the Native Indians. NOT something to be proud of.


7 posted on 02/08/2008 10:59:15 AM PST by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Sherman Logan

“Hence, there were no Republican slave masters at all.

Perhaps an overstatement, as it is likely there were some in the border states. However, they were most definitely a tiny minority.”

Not sure about that. There were many black slave owners, as well as native American slave owners.


8 posted on 02/08/2008 11:01:24 AM PST by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: rkoliver

The dims should just apologize for being dims.


9 posted on 02/08/2008 11:27:17 AM PST by San Jacinto
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To: rkoliver
Not until the Republican Party, the Democrat Party, and Congress apologize for the freight tariff placed on goods manufactured in the South and sold elsewhere which was not repealed until 1962. That tariff was nothing but mean spirited punishment for the South's interest in States Rights instead of an overweight burdensome Federal Government.

Not until the descendants of the families who owned the slave ships which brought slaves to the USofA apologize to the American Public for making money off of selling human beings.

Not until the "Party of Lincoln" apologizes to the American Public for the tens of thousands of former slaves who died as a result of their Lincoln-liberation with no resources provided for their welfare.

If there are going to be apologies, then everyone who is or has had any power in politics in the USofA owes apologies to their constituents and to the American Public in general for voting their pocketbook instead of for the good of the American Public. Apologies are owed for taking lobbyists money, for lying under oath, for all manner of unethical, indecent, and immoral behaviors perpetuated on the American Public by the entire Federal, State and Local Governments and the various politicians. There is no way that what has gone before can be excused with just a wordy apology. The American Public needs to see moral and ethical deeds and actions out of its Federal, State and Local politicians.

Judges who have legislated from the Bench owe the American Public apologies and promises to refrain from such activity in the future.

The ACLU owes apologies to the American Public for attacking the good, the moral and the ethical in favor of the evil, the immoral and the unethical.

Illegal Aliens having entered the USofA unlawfully and having used resources intended for US Citizens owe the American Public an apology as they return to their home countries and complete the necessary paperwork to enter the USofA legally and lawfully.

Criminals owe apologies and restitution for those they have harmed. Murderers owe apologies to the families of those they have killed including admitting their guilt in Court.

The Democrat(not 'ic') Party AND the Republican Party of today are NOT the Parties of the late Nineteenth Century. Today's political Parties are not responsible for slavery.

Why don't you request apologies from countries and nations which CURRENTLY promote slavery? Look at our "allies" who still promote slavery in their countries (and who bring that mind-set to the USofA). Preach to them. No one "owes" anyone an apology. Everyone "owes" everyone moral and ethical words and deeds.

Is slavery really the issue here? Is not the real, the honest issue the way each person treats others?

10 posted on 02/08/2008 11:28:26 AM PST by HighlyOpinionated (http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com -- read, learn, blog, or get out of my way.)
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To: AuntB
There were many black slave owners, as well as native American slave owners.

Neither group was allowed to vote at the time.

The GOP was founded as explicitly against the spread of slavery and in favor of its eventual extinction. This was a quite unremarkable position for slaveowners in the early years of the country, and indeed was the position held (in theory, anyway) by Washington, Jefferson, Madison and most of the other leading slaveowning politicians of the time.

By 1856, however, positions had hardened and for a slaveowner to join the GOP he would have had to be willing to call down on his head the universal anger of his compatriots.

11 posted on 02/08/2008 11:29:45 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: HighlyOpinionated

Got a little touch of ADD today?


12 posted on 02/08/2008 11:52:45 AM PST by SwankyC (McCain is the wrong man for the job.)
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To: rkoliver

Making the demand would put the Klintoons on the spot, so it’s worth it for that purpose.


13 posted on 02/08/2008 12:11:05 PM PST by TBP
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To: Always Right
The 1964 Civil Rights Act which key Republicans pushed law through while key Southern Democrats like Al Gore Sr. debated against its passage.

And J.W. Fulbright, Bill Clinton's mentor.

14 posted on 02/08/2008 12:15:39 PM PST by TBP
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To: HighlyOpinionated
No need to scream.

Not until the "Party of Lincoln" apologizes to the American Public for the tens of thousands of former slaves who died as a result of their Lincoln-liberation with no resources provided for their welfare.

Tens of thousands? What lost cause propaganda sheet did you get that misinformation from?

15 posted on 02/08/2008 12:36:08 PM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Ditto; HighlyOpinionated


Not until the “Party of Lincoln” apologizes to the American Public for the tens of thousands of former slaves who died as a result of their Lincoln-liberation with no resources provided for their welfare.


Tens of thousands? What lost cause propaganda sheet did you get that misinformation from?”
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Actually, HO is pretty close. The best information I’ve found on this is testimonies from Freedman slaves who were interviewed in 1937.

Here’s how one put it:

“”Of course I hear about Abraham Lincoln and he was a
great man, but I was told mostly by the children when dey come home from school about him. I always think of my Master as de one dat freed me, and anyways Abraham and none of his North people didn’t look after
me and buy my crop right after I was free like Master did. Dat was de time dat was the hardest and everything was dark and confusion.”

Thousands of ‘freed’ slaves were held at Ft. Gibson and many forts where they mostly starved and froze to death.
Testimonies of Cherokee Freedmen Slaves, A 1937 WPA project. Records prepared by the Federal Writers’ Project 1936-1938 assembled by the Library of Congress Work Projects, Administration for the Dist. Of Columbia http://www.gutenberg.org/browse/authors/w#a3906


16 posted on 02/08/2008 12:46:29 PM PST by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: AuntB
Thousands of ‘freed’ slaves were held at Ft. Gibson and many forts where they mostly starved and froze to death.

I googled Ft. Gibson + Freed slaves and can find nothing about that. There was a mention of Cherrokee (many of them black slaves) dying 30 years earlier during the Trail of Tears while heading for Ft. Gibson.

Here's the only mentions I could find of a slave at Ft. Gibson after the war. There is no mention of starvation.

http://www.african-nativeamerican.com/cow_tom.htm

17 posted on 02/08/2008 2:22:09 PM PST by Ditto (Global Warming: The 21st Century's Snake Oil)
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To: Ditto

You’ll have to do years of reading to understand this. I’ve just finished writing a book about it all. What do you suppose happened to those thousands of slaves after they left their homes during the constant battles of the Civil War?

There was simply no arrangement made for their ‘freedom’. Many of the men joined the Union Army leaving the women and children with no where to go but the forts. Many joined the Confederacy. The whites and Indians in those areas became refugees, so did the slaves. Thousands of Cherokee refugees died.

I have letters written by my grgrgrandparents describing the situation. There’s plenty on the net. Here’s some more reading:

Richard B. Harwell, The Confederate Reader: How the South Saw the Way.
(New York: N\Metro Book, 2002).

Alvin M. Josephy, jr., The Civil War in the American West. (New York:
Alfred E. Knopf, 1991).

Cherokee Cavaliers: Forty Years of Cherokee History as Told in the Correspondence
of the Ridge-Watie-Boudinot Family by Edward Everett Dale, Gaston Litton

Cherokee Cavaliers: Forty Years of Cherokee History as Told in the Correspondence
of the Ridge-Watie-Boudinot Family by Edward Everett Dale, Gaston Litton

Western History Collection, “Chronicles of Oklahoma”, University of Oklahoma

Keep reading.


18 posted on 02/08/2008 2:46:39 PM PST by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Ditto

“Here’s the only mentions I could find of a slave at Ft. Gibson after the war. There is no mention of starvation.”

I’m going to give you a snip from a book that will show you just one of the reasons why they indeed starved at Ft. Gibson. It wasn’t just slaves, it was union sympathetic refugees as well. Union and Confederate refugee citizens couldn’t feed themselves, much less ‘freed’ slaves.

” Even as the Union Sixth Cavalry marched to Cabin Creek, Watie and Gano raced to intersect the supply train. On the way thJim Bell could often be heard lamenting various forms of the same theme during this time and many years later as well. “ I would like to ask Mr. Lincoln what his plan is for his ‘emancipated’ slaves. What is he freeing them to do but be homeless, defenseless, hungry beggars driven to thievry. Bah!”ey burned tons of hay and killed a party of forty Federal blacks engaged in the harvest. They continued on the Texas Road to Cabin Creek, where they captured the Federal supply train holding clothing, food and a million and half dollars worth of provisions meant for refugees and Federal troops holding up at Fort Gibson.”(That’s in 1864 dollars!-believe me, they starved at Ft. Gibson that winter)

From a letter:

“I am satisfied that you have already heard rumors that we are ruined beyond remedy. How does it happen that you always hear everything from the common in it’s worst aspect. It is bad enough to tell the truth or well enough to do so, but to go beyond that is criminal. It can do no good, but a great deal of harm to exaggerate things as many of our people do.

But it is true out of five thousand , one thousand are without arms and many have not clothing to change, without shoes and what any one in their right senses would say was
in a deplorable condition looking more like Siberian exiles than soldiers.

Still I am constrained to say that they are never called on to make a stand against the enemy but they do so cheerfully and with a determination that no one would expect.
We are neglected. The Confederacy certainly does not know our condition. Good soldiers, but without the means of resistance, but we are neither discouraged or whipped and God forbid we ever shall be. Times are hard. No one starved yet though. (1863 -— they soon starved !) I have been in an almost nude condition. I have still got an old gray shirt and pants on. They are thread bear. “

Another letter:

In the summer of 1864 at Camp Jumper, ten miles north of Perryville, Stand Watie wrote to his wife the only news of the war the family was likely to obtain other than the usual persistent rumors.

“The Pins are now near the river opposite to Fort Smith. Creeks and few other troops about 1200 at Gibson. Lieut. Col. James Bell took a scout with a hundred men to near Fort Smith, killed one notorious Captain by the name of Gibbons who was a terror to the southern people and brought in three Federal prisoners. Arkansas river is very high, a portion of the cavalry force of my command is on the other side of the Canadian. Cooper with the Choctaws, Gans Brigade, is at Johnsons Station. Maxey is at Doaksville. There are some four thousand men at Fort Smith. The main army of the Federals at Little Rock. It cannot be long before a general move is made in the direction of Arkansas river. The union citizens of Washington and Benton Counties are moving out north.”

My grgrgrandfather:

Jim Bell could often be heard lamenting various forms of the same theme during this time and many years later as well. “ I would like to ask Mr. Lincoln what his plan is for his ‘emancipated’ slaves. What is he freeing them to do but be homeless, defenseless, hungry beggars driven to thievery.”


19 posted on 02/08/2008 3:12:20 PM PST by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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I think I read that there were 62,000 known deaths of "freed slaves" due to Lincoln and his Party's magnanimous decision to free but not care for slaves -- it's online somewhere and it's also part of my family's history, since GGGrandpa's 3 former slaves sharecropped with GGrandpa after the War of Northern Aggression. I know this because my GrandAunt had to quit school in 5th grade and cook for "the men." They also shared food with the families of the sharecroppers, too. Not everyone who had slaves was a "simon legree" type person.
20 posted on 02/08/2008 3:59:52 PM PST by HighlyOpinionated (http://auntiecoosa.blogspot.com -- read, learn, blog, or get out of my way.)
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