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1 posted on 04/22/2007 5:53:45 AM PDT by yankeedame
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To: yankeedame

Sounds like the Minoans didn’t buy enough carbon offsets to prevent the Santorini eruption :)


2 posted on 04/22/2007 5:56:33 AM PDT by NewCenturions (ngoh gong ta m ho)
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To: yankeedame
Forgot to add, the link is to the BBC article (as you can see) and is temperamental as all get-out re: getting the thing to run. Here's hoping you can get it running -- it's got me flummoxed.

('Course with me and computer stuff that isn't saying much.)

3 posted on 04/22/2007 6:00:26 AM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: yankeedame
The ancient Minoans were building palaces, paved streets and sewers, while most Europeans were still living in primitive huts.

Was this the same time that the Indus civilisation was around? They too had streets and houses with sewer systems. And that their language hasn't been cracked yet, adds more to the mystery.

4 posted on 04/22/2007 6:05:01 AM PDT by CarrotAndStick (The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)
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To: yankeedame; SunkenCiv
GGG Ping.

"Recent scientific work has established that the Santorini eruption was up to 10 times more powerful than the eruption of Krakatoa in 1883."

I've read recently that some believe Santorini may have been close to super-volcano status.
I just completed reading the 1965 book Krakatoa and many first hand accounts...It was no picnic either.

5 posted on 04/22/2007 6:08:38 AM PDT by blam
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To: yankeedame

Where Was Atlantis? Sundaland Fits The Bill, Surely!

6 posted on 04/22/2007 6:11:13 AM PDT by blam
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To: yankeedame

Anything near 1875 B.C. is always of interest. That’s when every civilized spot East of Egypt was destroyed.


7 posted on 04/22/2007 6:12:15 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: yankeedame
The Santorini was an SUV, (Super Uncontrollable Volcano). Once again ALGORGED is proven correctomundo!...well sorta
10 posted on 04/22/2007 7:26:35 AM PDT by Young Werther ( and Julius Ceasar said, "quae cum ita sunt." (or since these things are so!))
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To: yankeedame
a folk memory of a real ancient civilisation swallowed by the sea

When the Minoans went down, a dark age began in the Mediterranean that lasted for several centuries. It might be that the legend of the Flood was a memory of this, although there weren't many left to remember, and Flood legends occur worldwide, most of which was unaware of any Mediterranean civilization at the time.

14 posted on 04/22/2007 8:17:41 AM PDT by RightWhale (3 May '07 3:14 PM)
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To: yankeedame
I would think it would be a bigger wave then this one.
This wave is the size the article is suggesting it was
16 posted on 04/22/2007 10:57:54 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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To: yankeedame

Personally I like the theory that the area of the black sea was flooded.


17 posted on 04/22/2007 11:06:25 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric cartman voice* ?I love you guys?)
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A re-analysis of the
Late Bronze Age eruption and tsunami
of Santorini, Greece, and the
implications for the volcano-tsunami hazard

Dale Dominey-Howes
Journal of Volcanology and Geothermal Research
Volume 130, Issues 1-2,
15 February 2004, Pages 107-132
Abstract: The paroxysmal eruption of Santorini (ca. 3500 BP), referred to as the Late Bronze Age (LBA) eruption, probably generated multiple tsunami; their occurrence and impacts being cited frequently in scientific papers and articles. This paper examines what is known about any LBA tsunami, noting possible mechanisms of generation and identifying sedimentological traces. Firstly, the eruption sequence is outlined providing the context in which tsunami genesis may have occurred. Secondly, the arguments forwarded for the tsunami and a summary of the evidence is given. Thirdly, results of a new geological investigation for LBA tsunami deposits at 41 coastal sites from Crete and Kos are presented. The data are used to test the hypothesis that the LBA eruption generated an east Mediterranean-wide tsunami. It will be seen that no terrestrial geological evidence is identified. The paper re-examines the original arguments presented for LBA tsunami, challenging them because their founding assumptions are flawed. Together, the new data and the re-analysis of the original tsunami hypothesis indicate that there is insufficient evidence to demonstrate that any significant far-field tsunami propagated throughout the entire east Mediterranean as frequently purported. Some terrestrial evidence exists to suggest localised near-field tsunami inundation. There is good submarine evidence however, to suggest that a tsunami was focused to the W and WSW. The results have important implications for understanding the volcano-related tsunami hazard within the region and elsewhere.
Identification of Aniakchak (Alaska) tephra
in Greenland ice core
challenges the 1645 BC date
for Minoan eruption of Santorini

Nicholas J. G. Pearce
John A. Westgate and Shari J. Preece
Warren J. Eastwood
William T. Perkins
Minute shards of volcanic glass recovered from the 1645 ± 4 BC layer in the Greenland GRIP ice core have recently been claimed to originate from the Minoan eruption of Santorini [Hammer et al., 2003]. This is a significant claim because a precise age for the Minoan eruption provides an important time constraint on the evolution of civilizations in the Eastern Mediterranean. There are however significant differences between the concentrations of SiO2, TiO2, MgO, Ba, Sr, Nb and LREE between the ice core glass and the Minoan eruption, such that they cannot be correlatives. New chemical analyses of tephra from the Late Holocene eruption of the Aniakchak Volcano in Alaska, however, show a remarkable similarity to the ice core glass for all elements, and this eruption is proposed as the most likely source of the glass in the GRIP ice core. This provides a precise date of 1645 BC for the eruption of Aniakchak and is the first firm identification of Alaskan tephra in the Greenland ice cores. The age of the Minoan eruption of Santorini, however, remains unresolved.

18 posted on 04/23/2007 8:40:58 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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New Ice-Core Evidence Challenges the 1620s age for the Santorini (Minoan) Eruption
Journal of Archaeological Science, Volume 25, Issue 3, March 1998, Pages 279-289 | 13 July 1997 | Gregory A. Zielinski, Mark S. Germani
Posted on 07/29/2004 3:25:45 AM EDT by SunkenCiv
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19 posted on 04/23/2007 8:43:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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20 posted on 04/23/2007 8:47:06 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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21 posted on 04/23/2007 8:49:12 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Monday, April 18, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: yankeedame

What word would a people use for a land buried under ice (frozen water) if they did not have a word for ice?

Would the word be water? Would the say the land was inundated and sunk beneath the waters?

What land beyond the gates of Hercules and as large as Eastern North Africa exists buried beneath the waters?

Anartica. Just imo.


22 posted on 04/23/2007 8:54:46 PM PDT by Prost1 (Fair and Unbiased as always!)
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Greek ping


35 posted on 04/24/2007 7:49:23 AM PDT by eleni121 (+ En Touto Nika! By this sign conquer! + Constantine the Great)
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Layers of mystery: Archaeologists look to the earth for Minoan fate
Worcester Telegram & Gazette | Sunday, October 28, 2007 | Judy Powell
Posted on 11/03/2007 11:04:25 PM PDT by SunkenCiv
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46 posted on 01/11/2008 10:05:38 AM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________Profile updated Sunday, December 30, 2007)
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To: yankeedame

I am a bit late to the thread, but if readers want to understand what happened to Atlantis (and the Earth), then check this out:
http://faculty.nps.edu/mjjaye/docs/SOI%20Supplemental%20Material%20Resolving%20the%20Problem%20of%20Atlantis%20Jaye.pdf

More soon - there’s a related presentation at the upcoming Geological Society of America in Vancouver.

Geologists made a big mistake about 200 years ago.... Fixing bad science is a hard thing to do, but new data certainly helps.


50 posted on 10/04/2014 2:55:26 PM PDT by mj81
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