Posted on 11/06/2006 8:04:56 AM PST by Halfmanhalfamazing
You know......... I have to ask.........
Well, let me ask this first. Can you directly answer this question or will you give some answer deserving of a liberal politican or the NYT?
In your opinion, who is furthest to the left?
A. Linus Torvalds.
B. Bill Gates.
C. Steve Jobs.
There is no answer D, those are the only three choices. Nobody is arguing that Stallman is sane.
$100.00 Linux, oh boy!
Same here. Thanks for keeping us updated!
if you can't beat em, join em.
I think the smartest thing that MS has done recently is to make free their virtual machine. Let's you enjoy the best of both worlds.
Users of Microsoft software would never be so criminal. But users and developers of open source software are all a bunch of Stallman-esque Communist Criminal Thieves.
Guess I'll be rottin' in 'ell.
And I don't even use any of these Codecs on Linux - just on my Windows systems. And I've freely given of my time and talents in far greater value to Open Source software than I've ever paid legally purchasing the proprietary software that I use. And to the best of my knowledge, I have purchased a legal license to all the proprietary software that I possess.
It's no use. I've fallen in with a bunch of Gypsies, Tramps and Thieves.
Hmmm ... if Microsoft users are so damn honest, how come Microsoft spends so much money trying to minimize theft of their product?
You may not impose any further restrictions on the rights granted by the GPL.But going up against Microsoft lawyers on this matter would be much harder than going up against SCO lawyers.
It's classic Microsoft (what's the phrase commonly used?) embracing and suffocating of competition.
I might add: Ripping off someone else's work, selling it as your own, or giving it away to drive them out of business.
The same as always, to get paid for their intellectual property^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Uh huh. Anybody who's followed MS' history knows there's more to it than that. SJVN asks the obvious question.
I can't think of a single software company that has ever done well in an alliance with Microsoft. Can you?
Now, I'm sure there's a handful who have. But let's compare the short list vs the long list. SJVN is dead on.
Businesses are the target purchasers, not home computer users.
Businesses are driven much more by the bottom line than by pet juvenile prejudices. Businesses have said they want interoperability between linux and Microsoft applications. That's what this partnership is intended to do.
It's part of the necessary maturing of linux as it becomes an established long-term player in the business market. Microsoft tried but couldn't kill linux. Novell has the best and most comprehensive intellectual property portfolio related to linux (and Unix)--something Red Hat lacks. It only makes sense for Microsoft to strike a posture of detente vis a vis linux through Novell.
That said, Microsoft is demonstrably predatory and Novell will have to keep one eye on it all the time.
Final note: yes, Novell is paying royalties to Microsoft. But Microsoft is also paying royalties to Novell. The royalties pretty much offset each other; Novell may be slightly ahead.
It is stuning...
OTOH with the exception of one laptop running SLED, I no longer run Suse...
Still, it's sad to see a good distro die a slow painful death...
Embrace, Extend, and Extinguish™.
I didn't say "all", I said twice that "most" Linux users don't pay for their use of well-known patented technology, such as DVD and MP3 players. If you're one of the few that respects property of that sort, and either don't use it or pay for using it, then that is commendable and speaks highly of your character. I wish there were more out there like you, but unfortunately most just download some free hack from Amsterdam instead. What ARE the options for loading legal DVD/MP3 players on Linux, and how much do they cost? Thanks.
Enlarging your fonts isn't necessary. Obviously Novell wouldn't have done this unless they thought it was necessary. But, unfortunately for them, Linux hasn't helped their bottom line really at all despite their hope to somehow make big money off "free" software. This is their admission that business plan doesn't really work, except perhaps for one dominant company, like Red Hat, which may not make it now either since Oracle is making free copies of their work and cutting in on their already puny support dollars.
Novell is going to try to "Appleize" Linux, and include lots of proprietary code in there to distinguish themselves from all the cloners and hopefully earn a license fee for each copy. Will it work? Who knows, but it's the smartest thing anyone has tried yet. Unless you think the leftist utopian dream of all software being free is somehow smart.
Agreed, but they are likely going to lose a lot of their anti-Microsoft users who liked Novell simply because they saw it as an antithesis to SCO, but now see Novell as acting like SCO. the lady at Jokelaw said this deal made her want to "throw up", and her site is loaded with others who feel the same.
It's part of the necessary maturing of linux as it becomes an established long-term player in the business market.
Yes, one version of Linux may finally be earning some respectability, by recognizing the existing laws of business, instead of constantly trying to break them like has always been the goal of the free software radicals like Stallman.
Novell is paying royalties to Microsoft. But Microsoft is also paying royalties to Novell. The royalties pretty much offset each other; Novell may be slightly ahead.
That's not my understanding of the deal. Novell is paying royalties to Microsoft for each copy of Linux sold, while Microsoft is only agreeing to buy ~75K copies per year, of which they may even get their royalty. Microsoft may have even paid that full amount for those licenses up front, which is probably why cash-strapped Novell did the deal in the first place, we'll see when the details are released to the SEC later this week. It will take more time to tell if it was a smart move for either, but I don't think it will be unless they figure out a way to get Stallman's loons kicked out of Linux completely, which won't be easy, but this is a step in that direction.
Watch for 'extensions' that make it proprietary.
And in the bigger picture, watch for standardization of a new hybrid that will work for globalists.
Don't forget, Microsoft agreed to pay royalties to Novell. IOW, Microsoft's products are likely as infringing.
Might not work for Novell though, since most existing Linux users have an unending hatred of Microsoft,
This is mainly about business users, not fringe open source people who are as philosophical about their software as you are.
and would apparently rather just download stuff from DVD Jon in Amsterdam
You have your usual level of knowledge of the subject, but three strikes in one sentence is a first. First, Amsterdam is not in Norway, which is where DVD Jon is from. Second, DVD Jon lives in America now. Third, DVD Jon is now working on proprietary iTunes/iPod interoperability software.
Source?
He has been fully paid millions of dollars in value.
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