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US Should Give Taiwan "The Bomb"

Posted on 10/15/2006 11:46:10 AM PDT by DantheMan123

...or at least threaten it in response to China's diluting the enforcement action against North Korea.


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KEYWORDS: northkorea; roc; taiwan

1 posted on 10/15/2006 11:46:10 AM PDT by DantheMan123
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To: DantheMan123

I believe Taiwan did nuclear research many years ago with Israel and South Africa. They stopped after the US requsted it to end.

I don't believe North Korea is a direct threat to Taiwan, but the same players are involved (China, Japan, USA) so it has indirect influence.

I don't think Taiwanese missile can hit Beijing, but they can reach the economic centers of China. If we tried to put nuclear weapons in Taiwan, you must be ready for a "Cuban missile crisis" in reverse. China will blockade the island and the US navy would have to decide to either turn around or force our way through.

Aside from the issue of nuclear weapons, I do agree that Taiwan needs an offensive military capability against China and not just keep spending money on defensive weapons. The best defense is a credible offense.


2 posted on 10/15/2006 12:08:03 PM PDT by Tai_Chung
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To: DantheMan123

If the Taiwanese want nuclear weapons they are perfectly capable of producing one on their own. They don't need our help.


3 posted on 10/15/2006 12:13:13 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Tai_Chung

You're thinking too hard here.


4 posted on 10/15/2006 12:20:03 PM PDT by vikzilla
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To: DantheMan123
Yes!!! At least give them some short range missiles with nuclear warheads.
5 posted on 10/15/2006 12:35:14 PM PDT by syriacus (Pelosi, 1998 - "It's about sex. It's about a punishment searching for a crime that doesn't exist.")
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To: DantheMan123

I don't think we hand out nuclear bombs. Something about the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.


6 posted on 10/15/2006 12:37:05 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
I don't think we hand out nuclear bombs. Something about the nuclear non-proliferation treaty.

The nukes wouldn't be proliferated. They would merely be shuffled around.

1. It could be argued that Taiwan is not a recognized country.

2. Therefore, it could be argued that Taiwan belongs to either Red China or the US, both of which already have nuclear weapons.

3. Therefore, it could be argued that giving nukes to Taiwan is not proliferating them, since both the US and Red China have nukes already.

7 posted on 10/15/2006 12:51:13 PM PDT by syriacus (Pelosi, 1998 - "It's about sex. It's about a punishment searching for a crime that doesn't exist.")
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To: syriacus

Okay, let's hear the argument that Taiwan belongs to the US. This should be good.


8 posted on 10/15/2006 1:53:29 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: DantheMan123
As a Southeast Asian, spending years in the US, I can understand the lacked of facts about Asia amongst some posters. Even if you give the Taiwanese nuclear weapon they will have hard time deciding whether to accept them. Bear in mind substantial portion of the people there favor a reunification in the future, will you want your offensive weapon there in the first place. It doesn't make good sense. Talks like these give bad impression about US and it defeat your goal to get friends in the region.
For your information, people here favor economic cooperation, they are working towards full development with specific goal and through cooperation amongst nations. Economic cooperation groups for North East Asia, East and Central Asia, Southeast Asia plus China,Korea and Japan, Mekong river basin economic cooperation group etc were the talks in the mass media here daily. Very little space given to saber rattling. I am sure it will be a different world if the trend continue without interference.
9 posted on 10/15/2006 6:08:29 PM PDT by lyonel (Hair splitting is fun only if it is applied on someone else.)
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To: Dog Gone
Okay, let's hear the argument that Taiwan belongs to the US. This should be good.

A few caveats....

I didn't say that I believe that Taiwan belongs to the US. I only said "it could be argued that Taiwan belongs to either Red China or the US. "

I'm only quoting a source.

Anyway....here is the argument....such as it is.... Taiwan is US territory

By Roger Lin Thursday, Nov 10, 2005,Page 8

In the interest of fairness, here's an argument against Lin's argument
Taiwan is not US territory

10 posted on 10/15/2006 6:13:56 PM PDT by syriacus (Pelosi, 1998 - "It's about sex. It's about a punishment searching for a crime that doesn't exist.")
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To: lyonel
Even if you give the Taiwanese nuclear weapon they will have hard time deciding whether to accept them.

What if we merely mention to Red China that we are "looking into the possibility" of offering the weapons to the Taiwanese?

11 posted on 10/15/2006 6:19:51 PM PDT by syriacus (Pelosi, 1998 - "It's about sex. It's about a punishment searching for a crime that doesn't exist.")
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To: syriacus

Well, Roger Lin's position is certainly creative. I thought the part about the citizens of Taiwan threatening the US President with impeachment was a nice touch. ;-)


12 posted on 10/15/2006 6:21:52 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
Well, Roger Lin's position is certainly creative

I wonder what Madame Chiang Kai-shek, who died only 3 years ago, would have thought of it

Madame Chiang Kai-shek dies

Though born in the East, Madame Chiang was thoroughly Western in thought and philosophy. Brought up in a Methodist family, she studied in America from the age of 10 to 19 ...When President Jimmy Carter announced in 1978 that the United States was breaking off diplomatic relations with Taiwan and establishing formal ties with the People's Republic of China, Madame Chiang remained in seclusion and did not comment.
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13 posted on 10/15/2006 6:34:28 PM PDT by syriacus (Pelosi, 1998 - "It's about sex. It's about a punishment searching for a crime that doesn't exist.")
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Hard to know, but I'm pretty sure I know what she thought of Jimmy Carter.


14 posted on 10/15/2006 6:38:54 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: DantheMan123

That would trigger war with China.


15 posted on 10/15/2006 6:40:40 PM PDT by Zeroisanumber (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: DantheMan123
Taiwan attempted to create their own bomb 25 or 30yrs. ago using reactors leased from the US. A CIA informant there at that time, caught wind of the secret project and the CIA and State Dept. swooped in and sealed the reactors.
16 posted on 10/16/2006 5:09:19 AM PDT by wolfcreek (A personal attack is the reaction of an exhausted and/or disturbed mind.)
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To: Dog Gone

I don't think that Roger Lin is advocating that the United States sell any "bombs" to Taiwan. What he is saying is that as "an overseas territory of the United States," all "national defense" issues for Taiwan should be handled directly by the Pentagon.

His new lawsuit against the US government explains the details of why (and how) Taiwan is "an overseas territory under the jurisdiction of the USA." See -- http://www.taiwankey.net/dc/tforumtw.htm


18 posted on 11/17/2006 6:32:46 PM PST by savetaiwan
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