Posted on 04/18/2006 1:35:19 PM PDT by gondramB
We have a home warranty and today they assigned a plumber to fix a couple of toilets. There were some complications so we had a long while to talk - it was very eye opening.
The plumber is a polite guy, born and raised in Atlanta as a Baptist about 5 miles from where I grew up. He is a convert to Islam and says he attends the largest mosque in Atlanta.
Some of the things he said just blew me away and I wanted to share. This isn't somebody from a foreign country - he is a native Georgian.
He said (and he was very matter of fact about all this as if none of it would possibly be disputed)
1. There was no way 9/11 was done by Muslims. Bin Laudin always claims responsibility when he does something and he said right away he didn't do it. Everybody at the mosque knows the tapes where he supposedly said he did it were unintelligible and the translation was fake. Nobody at the mosque thinks Muslims could do 9/11. You have to look at who benefitted - we didn't benefit. The people who want war and wire tapping benefitted.
2. The suicide bombers aren't Muslims. Muslims can't kill women. You can kill a child before you can kill a woman. Jihad has to be fought with your chest - out front, not with your side or your back. I don't know who is doing the bombings but everybody at the mosque is sure it isn't Muslims.
3. The President of Iran is saying those things about Israel and the bomb to get President Bush to attack Iran. He (the Iranian president) doesn't care about his life or the lives of Iranians - he cares about the after-life. A world war is coming and the war with Iran will be part of what sets it up - Syria and Pakistan will join the war on Iran's side.
4.There are millions of people ready to die for Islam. They are all peaceful. Islam means peace. But when it clicks that the final war has started they will die for Islam.
5. Ayatollah Khomeni captured the Shah of Iran and castrated him and paraded his head through the streets. (Historical note - the Shah died in Egypt after President Carter's decision to allow him into the United States for treatment triggering the embassy takeover, hostage crisis and the most screwed up rescue operation in U.S. history.)
6. Muslims are peaceful people who just want to live a simple life. But when people stop them from living that life, when people won't leave them alone, they have to fight. They have to jihad.
7. "I just wish we could have one generation of peace for my children to live for a while before it starts."
Well, actually I did tell him that I was certain that Al Quaida was behind 9/11 and that we had identified all the hijackers but it had no effect. This experience left me feeling quite pessimistic. I just don't understand how this set of beliefs are possible.
It's called Brainwashing - ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGION IT'S A CULT! Every Cult brainwashes you into believe what they want you to believe!
Lucky you didn't have a Koran hanging on the wall for toilet paper!
Idiot. Fortunately, my experience with Muslims in this country gives me hope.
Was this guy white or black or what?
He should have a year long tour of Islamic lands. Maybe reality would sink in.
Mass paranoia, conspiracy nuts. Even just one gives me the willies.
I wouldn't be too pessimistic, if I were you. How many uneducated Muslims who are being used by their faith actually know reality when it stares them in the face? They don't question what the imams say, or what they learn at the massadras in general. There are those, who DO seek out reality. But, when education is lacking, it is very hard to reach the surface.
Remember, 50 million people have been liberated in Iraq! That more than makes up for the ignorance of the plumber you met, today. (Did he acknowledge that the Iraqis' freedom was a positive thing?)
Pipe bombs, anyone??
My Islamic Plumber
Great idea for a new sitcom.
>>Was this guy white or black or what?
He should have a year long tour of Islamic lands. Maybe reality would sink in.
Mass paranoia, conspiracy nuts. Even just one gives me the willies.<<
He was black. And that is a good point about overseas travel. It didn't come up. Frankly I spent most of the time just listening stunned and trying to remember just what he said in case he said something to indicate a threat.
"Lucky you didn't have a Koran hanging on the wall for toilet paper!"
That was lucky.
Wow,
Rational thinking :)
"The mindless followers of an illiterate, mass murdering pedophile...what do you expect?"
Call me crazy but I expect a lot better from a Georgia man raised Baptist.
hmmmm....really?
"Remember, 50 million people have been liberated in Iraq! That more than makes up for the ignorance of the plumber you met, today. (Did he acknowledge that the Iraqis' freedom was a positive thing?)"
I appreciate the positive tone of your post. He said American got a pass on Iraq because Saddam "wasn't nice" but there would be no pass on Iran. But you are right I don't want to over generalize - I'm hoping this is not typical.
Area51 is right about Islam being a cult and right about how cults brainwash.
I've had some very close dealings with a cult that started as an Islamic sect. The parallels are exact - Islam is a caricature of a cult except that it's lasted so long.
And the followers are clearly brainwashed.
That said, this is a perfect example of why I replace my own toilets.
" My Islamic Plumber
Great idea for a new sitcom."
Thank you. I haven't had a lot of laughs in the last few hours.
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