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NOW and NARAL strongly opposed Souter and O'Connor as well, because of their stands on abortion and their supposed beliefs that the Constitution is not a "living document." Souter and O'Connor have not fulfilled NARAL's fears nor conservative's wishes. The truth of the matter is that liberals think the GOP is far more conservative than it is, so they believe that anyone affiliated with the party or its members are radical right-wingers who are on the verge of instituting a theocracy. It wouldn't matter if Bush cloned Ruth Bader Ginsburg and appointed her-- NOW and NARAL would insist she was a closet Right-Wing fundamentalist Christian Zionist warmongering anti-woman, homophobic, racist clinic bombing fanatic.

Your analogies don't work because homosexuality and moderate Islam do not result in genocide. Abortion is not a moral issue, but a human rights one-- I am not that interested in jailing people for immoral or irresponsible sex, I am interested in keeping them from killing the baby. Human being=person, kiling person=murder, murder is, in most cases, a crime. Returning to your example, gay pedophilia and terrorist Islam *are* legally proscribed, because they injure or kill people.

I am most certainly aware that giving the government too much power for good can result in its use for evil. This is why I am a passionate believer in very small government. You are absolutely correct that the government should not outlaw particular religions, and I can see the effects of a government culture that seeks to restrict Christianity. I agree that the government has no right to regulate religious practice. However, this is entirely irrelevant to abortion which , again, is not a religious or moral issue. It is certainly immoral, and my religious strongly opposes it, but the reason one person cannot kill others is that it is a violation of their inalienable right to life.


367 posted on 10/11/2005 5:30:50 AM PDT by Im4LifeandLiberty (Brownback '08!)
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You missed the whole point of what I was trying to say. :( I don’t know how to put it more clearly than before, so please go back and re-read it. I was using homosexuality and islam as a general subject for the point of making things like that illegal, because a nation that can do that, can also make things that you do want and support illegal. An example of the dog turning on its master. I’ve always been against abortion, of any kind, early on or late term or partial birth. They’re all murder of a human being with a soul and personality, plain and simple. But the government has NO place making something like abortion illegal or legal. It is a moral issue first and foremost above a human rights issue. Human rights violations occur because of a lack of morality on some people. The lack of morality is exhibited before the violation of human rights. If people had a certain level of morality, there would be no human rights violations because their personal morality would prohibit them from doing such things. And as I said before, you cannot legislate morality. And as much as I hate abortion, I do not want to live in a country where woman who try to get an abortion and refuse adoption or other options are stuck in jail or otherwie detained until they give birth. That is NOT something the founding fathers would approve of, even though they would have clearly abhorred abortion.

I believe that God would be against such measures, and that, as I said before, He IS Pro-Choice. God gives man the freedom to murder. To rape. To steal. To curse Him. And to abort a baby in the womb. That is all part of free will and each individuals right to do whatever is in their power to do, whether it breaks a law of the nation they live in or not. There are plenty of things against God’s laws that are NOT against the laws of the United States of America. And abortion should be one of those. If a woman wants to have an abortion. The U.S. Government should neither deny, nor facilitate the services needed for that abortion. That woman should have the ability to go get an abortion, paid for by her, her non-government funded or subsidized insurance, or planned parenthood or some other organization in the business of killing babies. Afterwards, she will suffer the rest of her life with the psychological and emotional scars created when she murdered her unborn child, and then, someday, when she dies, she will stand before God and receive punnishment for making the wrong choice and murdering her baby in the womb. IT’s God’s call. NOT the U.S. government’s call. I liken a hypothetical federal ban on abortion, making it illegal, to the radical liberal pro-abortion crowd trying to abuse the RICO act so that it can be used to prosecute lawful citizens who are peacefully protesting outside abortion clinics. Both are unacceptable. Roe vs. Wade should be overturned, and the issue of abortion should be solved on the State level with State referrendums decided by each States citizens. NOT the federal government by some bunch of despots up high on some court. It should be decided by a larger group of despots in the U.S. House and Senate either. Let the people decide State by State. Most states would ban it, some wouldn’t, and those who feel the need for murdering little defenseless humans should pick up and move themselves to those few states that would keep it legal. Problem solved. Those who don’t want it, can stop it with a majority of the people, those who do, can legalize it with a majority, and those in both sets of States who don’t like where their State came down on it, can feel free to move to a state that has a majority of people who have spoken the way they feel. And when it’s all over, some day, God will educate those who chose to exercise their freedom to murder a baby in the womb. That’s how I feel about it, and other than those who support sniping abortion doctors and nurses, or bombing or burning abortion clinics, I don’t think anyone can be rationally as pro-life as I am. Just to prove this, because of a mistakingly diagnosed "condition" I supposedly had before birth, my mother’s doctor recommended she abort me. So I was slated to be one of the aborted statistics. So, I have a certain personal feeling on the matter, since I was within a hairs bredth of not being here to argue this.

369 posted on 10/12/2005 10:21:12 AM PDT by Allen H (An informed person, is a conservative person. Remember 9-11,God bless our military,Bush,& the USA!)
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