I believe that God would be against such measures, and that, as I said before, He IS Pro-Choice. God gives man the freedom to murder. To rape. To steal. To curse Him. And to abort a baby in the womb. That is all part of free will and each individuals right to do whatever is in their power to do, whether it breaks a law of the nation they live in or not. There are plenty of things against Gods laws that are NOT against the laws of the United States of America. And abortion should be one of those. If a woman wants to have an abortion. The U.S. Government should neither deny, nor facilitate the services needed for that abortion. That woman should have the ability to go get an abortion, paid for by her, her non-government funded or subsidized insurance, or planned parenthood or some other organization in the business of killing babies. Afterwards, she will suffer the rest of her life with the psychological and emotional scars created when she murdered her unborn child, and then, someday, when she dies, she will stand before God and receive punnishment for making the wrong choice and murdering her baby in the womb. ITs Gods call. NOT the U.S. governments call. I liken a hypothetical federal ban on abortion, making it illegal, to the radical liberal pro-abortion crowd trying to abuse the RICO act so that it can be used to prosecute lawful citizens who are peacefully protesting outside abortion clinics. Both are unacceptable. Roe vs. Wade should be overturned, and the issue of abortion should be solved on the State level with State referrendums decided by each States citizens. NOT the federal government by some bunch of despots up high on some court. It should be decided by a larger group of despots in the U.S. House and Senate either. Let the people decide State by State. Most states would ban it, some wouldnt, and those who feel the need for murdering little defenseless humans should pick up and move themselves to those few states that would keep it legal. Problem solved. Those who dont want it, can stop it with a majority of the people, those who do, can legalize it with a majority, and those in both sets of States who dont like where their State came down on it, can feel free to move to a state that has a majority of people who have spoken the way they feel. And when its all over, some day, God will educate those who chose to exercise their freedom to murder a baby in the womb. Thats how I feel about it, and other than those who support sniping abortion doctors and nurses, or bombing or burning abortion clinics, I dont think anyone can be rationally as pro-life as I am. Just to prove this, because of a mistakingly diagnosed "condition" I supposedly had before birth, my mothers doctor recommended she abort me. So I was slated to be one of the aborted statistics. So, I have a certain personal feeling on the matter, since I was within a hairs bredth of not being here to argue this.
I understood your previous post perfectly well, and I understand what you are trying to say-- your position is a very common one.
I am glad you did not become a statistic, and are here fighting for the Right along with us!
However, I still disagree emphatically on your reduction of abortion to simply a moral problem that cannot be prevented on earth. If unborn children are living human beings with souls, as you have acknowleged in your previous post, then would you not agree that abortion kills innocent people and is thus murder? I reiterate my point that homicide is immoral and that we will face God's judgment for it, but that does not mean it should be legal. The same is true of my previous example of rape. I just don't see why the fact that an action is sinful eliminates the possibility for legal prohibition of the action.
The goal with banning abortion is to prevent "doctors" from performing abortions, not to put women in jail. The consequences would probably fall hardest upon the abortionist rather than the mother, for he is the one doing the killing, and because many women who have abortions do not fully realize what they are doing. Illegalization of abortion would not land pregnant women in prison, as you suggested, it would make the procedure unavailable. Imprisonment of someone who claimed she wanted to terminate her child would be a violation of due process, so that could not legally happen. You are taking great leaps from allowing the states to restrict abortion within their own borders to throwing pregnant mothers in jail. A reversal of Roe v. Wade would do no such thing.
"because a nation that can do that, can also make things that you do want and support illegal."
~You are right. I do want not to be an accomplice to abortion, but it is illegal for me to not fund Planned Parenthood by refusing to pay taxes. Your point here is very clear, and is the reason I am always extremely hesitant about giving power to the government or allowing to extend its reach with social programs. Abortion is a special case, though, as prohibiting child murder is different from making laws in support of, or in penalty to, a religion or identity trait.
"I believe that God would be against such measures, and that, as I said before, He IS Pro-Choice. God gives man the freedom to murder. To rape. To steal. To curse Him. And to abort a baby in the womb. That is all part of free will and each individuals right to do whatever is in their power to do, whether it breaks a law of the nation they live in or not. There are plenty of things against Gods laws that are NOT against the laws of the United States of America. And abortion should be one of those."
~Does the liberty to murder, rape and steal that results from free will automatically justify making such actions legal?
I understood your previous post perfectly well, and I understand what you are trying to say-- your position is a very common one.
I am glad you did not become a statistic, and are here fighting for the Right along with us!
However, I still disagree emphatically on your reduction of abortion to simply a moral problem that cannot be prevented on earth. If unborn children are living human beings with souls, as you have acknowleged in your previous post, then would you not agree that abortion kills innocent people and is thus murder? I reiterate my point that homicide is immoral and that we will face God's judgment for it, but that does not mean it should be legal. The same is true of my previous example of rape. I just don't see why the fact that an action is sinful eliminates the possibility for legal prohibition of the action.
The goal with banning abortion is to prevent "doctors" from performing abortions, not to put women in jail. The consequences would probably fall hardest upon the abortionist rather than the mother, for he is the one doing the killing, and because many women who have abortions do not fully realize what they are doing. Illegalization of abortion would not land pregnant women in prison, as you suggested, it would make the procedure unavailable. Imprisonment of someone who claimed she wanted to terminate her child would be a violation of due process, so that could not legally happen. You are taking great leaps from allowing the states to restrict abortion within their own borders to throwing pregnant mothers in jail. A reversal of Roe v. Wade would do no such thing.
"because a nation that can do that, can also make things that you do want and support illegal."
~You are right. I do want not to be an accomplice to abortion, but it is illegal for me to not fund Planned Parenthood by refusing to pay taxes. Your point here is very clear, and is the reason I am always extremely hesitant about giving power to the government or allowing to extend its reach with social programs. Abortion is a special case, though, as prohibiting child murder is different from making laws in support of, or in penalty to, a religion or identity trait.
"I believe that God would be against such measures, and that, as I said before, He IS Pro-Choice. God gives man the freedom to murder. To rape. To steal. To curse Him. And to abort a baby in the womb. That is all part of free will and each individuals right to do whatever is in their power to do, whether it breaks a law of the nation they live in or not. There are plenty of things against Gods laws that are NOT against the laws of the United States of America. And abortion should be one of those."
~Does the liberty to murder, rape and steal that results from free will automatically justify making such actions legal?