10 Reasons Ukraine Aid Is Good for America

Newsmax ^ | April 10, 2024 | Marisa Herman

[Widget Jr]

Here are 10 key reasons experts say U.S. support for Ukraine should be continued:

1. Putin's aggression must be stopped.
2. Putin's atrocities need a response.
3. Russia is targeting evangelical Christians for persecution.
4. Ukraine wants only to regain its sovereign territory.
5. Russia has not "won" the war.
6. Russia is rearming for a larger war.
7. Most Ukraine aid goes to U.S. contractors.
8. Europe fears a coming attack on NATO.
9. Support for Ukraine signals to China: Do not invade Taiwan.
10. Give Ukraine aid to let Trump bring peace.

[Widget Jr]

Newsmax must be excerpted to 100 words per FR rules. I posted the headings for the 10 reasons to stay under the posting limit.

Haters are gonna hate and post the same repetitive and boring danncing Zelensky pics ad nauseum. That has gotten so old it is easy to ignore them.

Those who are interested will read the article at its source. It has a lot to say, much of which has been said before, none of which those opposing aiding Ukraine want to hear or have heard.

Comments, questions, informed critiques, angry ranting and raving?

Tear Collection Kits available at poster's expense.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

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[cowboyusa]

This thread will be fun.

[DIRTYSECRET]

Could be true. There is something to be said for helping out the Ukes until Trump comes back.

[Widget Jr]

Yes, it is pretty much guaranteed to get exciting.

[Darksheare]

Paul Krugman, supposed economist, claims that it is possible to spend your way to prosperity.
How is it relevant?
Well, systems based on wholesale theft aren’t good.

[Freest Republican]

The greatest aid that we could give Ukraine and Israel is flooding the world with oil.

Haters are going to hate-Putin will die another five times and Ukraine will run out of men and munitions another ten times while the peanut gallery rolls on as if it was the movie Groundhog Day.

[bimboeruption]

How a zeeper sees America’s problems:

Border…doesn’t matter.

Spending…doesn’t matter.

Economy…doesn’t matter.

Crime…doesn’t matter.

RuZZZZZia is the only issue preventing Utopia in our country.

[logi_cal869]

[EnderWiggin1970]

Hypocritical neocon garbage that ignores history and ignores reality on the ground. When will they stop plundering Americans to line their own pockets while supporting non-democracies against democracies they don’t like, with censorship, religious persecution and all the other fascist fetishes we’ve seen on display in Washington and Kiev?

[logi_cal869]

That’s about the size of it.

[cowboyusa]

There has been enough Spam on fr this week to feed a while Company.🤣

[Widget Jr]

That was an angle I hadn't thought of before. Politically it is significant and a real concern for congressional Republicans.

Domestically, congressional Republicans have to worry about what the public will think of them if Ukraine falls. Internationally, they do not want to get blamed for emboldening future Russian aggression.

Assuming Trump wins (Democrats fail to steal the Presidency again), the better Ukraine's position, the better Trump's negotiating position with both sides.

[Apparatchik]

Wow- two minutes!

Usually you respond with your typical nonsense in one minute or less when the “freedom of expression” alarm goes off at the troll farm.

You’re slipping.

[AndyJackson]

Just turn up the volume and keep repeating the propaganda. It never gets old and if it’s loud enough you don’t hear any other points of view.

[Allegra]

RuZZZZZia is the only issue preventing Utopia in our country.

Slavs on FR are more “Look at meeeeeee” than freakin’ Gen-Z chicks with selfie sticks and a Tik-Tok account.

[AndyJackson]

China….doesn’t matter.

[Liz]

FR thread—— Biden Admits Massively Undercounting Ukraine Aid

When conservatives in Congress pressed the Biden admin to provide the real cost of the Ukraine war in Jan 2023, the lawmakers estimated the U.S. had spent “a minimum of $114 billion.”
<><>Now, with added OMB information, Cong Vance and company estimate the current total to Ukraine amounts to at least $125 billion—$14 billion over what the OMB had previously claimed.
<><>That’s not all.....Biden could give Ukraine another $4B billion via weapons transfers from US stockpiles under Presidential Drawdown Authority.
<><>This would bring the total amount to Ukraine to $129 billion.

When Biden’s OMB got around to responding almost eight months later, the OMB claimed, through an opaque and admittedly incomplete data sheet, that Ukraine aid totaled $111 billion.
<><>“The deficiencies in OMB’s response were numerous,” said of the OMB’s Sept 2023 response.
<><>“did not account for 100’s of millions of dollars in base appropriations for Ukraine’s Security Assistance Initiative.
<><>It omitted the administration’s ‘$6.2 billion in ‘freed-up’ authority’ to send weapons to Ukraine,
<><>which meant that ‘certain numbers in OMB’s spreadsheet, as well as dollar figures the administration provided for at least some previous Ukraine-related drawdowns, are outdated.’
<><>It did not allow us to determine ‘what obligations, apportionments, and outlays the administration has undertaken for other countries in response to the Ukraine conflict.’”

Cong Vance and company concluded Biden OMB’s Sept 2023 response was “nonresponsive.” In a follow-up letter sent September 28, 2023, they added that
<><>“If OMB’s spreadsheet is to be relied on to produce such a figure—and we believe it cannot be—it is around $111 billion.
<><>It would appear likely that the data you have yet to provide would raise this figure by an indeterminate magnitude.

“Every one of these assertions has been validated,” the Tuesday letter claims. On March 8, 2024, “nearly six months after we again requested a full accounting of Ukraine spending, more than a year after our original request, and one business day before the OMB director was scheduled to testify before the Senate Budget Committee,” the letter notes, OMB finally decided to hand over “another tranche of information.” What it included was shocking.

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<><>The latest OMB data to Congress revealed, according to the lawmakers’ letter,
<><>Biden failed to report at least another $684 million in appropriated Ukraine spending,
<><>left out another $900 million in DOD assistance connected to the Ukraine war,
<><>and a number of other pitfalls that has undercounted the total amount of Ukraine aid by a magnitude of billions.

There could be more, too, as lawmakers included a list of 14 probing questions and information requests in their latest correspondence with the OMB director.

No surprise—it’s not Joe Biden’s money at stake........ just the American people’s tax dollars.

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Bradley Devlin is the political editor for The American Conservative. Previously, he was an Analysis Reporter for the Daily Caller, and has been published in the Daily Wire and the Daily Signal, among other publications that don’t include the word “Daily.” He graduated from the University of California, Berkeley with a degree in Political Economy. You can follow Bradley on Twitter @bradleydevlin.

[impimp]

America first - forget about Ukraine. In fact, I would have no issues with selling some of our less hi-tech weaponry to Russia, as well as Ukraine.

[AndyJackson]

And then we impeach him again before he can fix it and then maybe we can elect another neocon.