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Powerful Members of Congress are Dead-Set on Killing UFO Transparency
PatriotandLiberty ^ | 12/23 | MARIK VON RENNENKAMPFF

Posted on 12/20/2023 1:17:52 AM PST by spirited irish

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To: spirited irish

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https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/4341947-powerful-members-of-congress-are-dead-set-on-killing-ufo-transparency/

“According to reports, Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio), chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, and Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.), chairman of the House Armed Services Committee, are leading efforts to prevent any meaningful version of this provision from being added to the 2024 National Defense Authorization Act.”


“The remarkable nature of Schumer’s bipartisan legislation is only trumped by revelations that key members of Congress appear intent on blocking or neutering it for what seems to be no good reason.”


21 posted on 12/20/2023 4:41:57 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: WeaslesRippedMyFlesh

“There are no beings from outspace visiting earth.”

That you personally know of.

Could you kindly submit your credentials that enable you, above all others on earth, to have final say so on the matter.


22 posted on 12/20/2023 4:46:55 AM PST by odawg
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To: iontheball
Now, the MIC is bribing our representatives to keep a lid on the biggest story in the history of the world.

And possibly threatening to harm them or their families if they don't do as told.

23 posted on 12/20/2023 4:49:03 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Except I’m not the one who made the claim. That would be… you.

As my Grandfather used to say: “if you can’t back it up - why say it?” ;)


24 posted on 12/20/2023 4:50:03 AM PST by Fury
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To: Fury
Because it is common knowledge to most people on this thread. And I wasn't talking to you, was I?

That fact that you haven't been keeping up isn't my problem...it's yours.

Do your homework.

25 posted on 12/20/2023 4:54:15 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Fury

Was your granddad lazy and entitled too.;-)


26 posted on 12/20/2023 4:55:09 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: spirited irish
Starting from the end of WW2, American scientists did not need any help from "aliens" to get to Mars, Ganymede, and near stars. They needed a propulsion system substantially better than rocket engines and they needed the compute power density to plot courses in deep space. All of that was there by the late 80s. There aren't any "aliens" What there is, is a massive manned space program being run on a black-op basis.
27 posted on 12/20/2023 4:58:02 AM PST by ganeemead (everything )
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

Exactly. Of all my concerns, this is number 1 million on my important list.


28 posted on 12/20/2023 4:58:59 AM PST by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: spirited irish

Russian Senators Declare War On Reptiloids! (Not A Joke!)


29 posted on 12/20/2023 5:00:12 AM PST by Theoria
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To: RoosterRedux

When you post to a thread, anyone can respond.

I asked a question. You declined to provide a citation for your claim.

I liked your take and thoughtful comments on UAP, UFO, etc.

But I guess you’re just another “I make the claim but you do the research to verify my claim” poster depending on the issue. That’s disappointing.

Good luck.


30 posted on 12/20/2023 5:00:38 AM PST by Fury
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To: RoosterRedux
BTW, the problem with the Eastern secured air training area was part of testimony given to Congress in recent UAP hearings (it was part of the testimony given by retired Navy pilot Ryan Graves. Here's a link to one article on Graves." His entire testimony is available online somewhere).

And BTW, the air training area wasn't closed permanently (sorry if I left that impression). It was temporarily closed at various times whenever pilots entering the area to train encountered these strange craft.

31 posted on 12/20/2023 5:01:57 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: Fury
Here's a recent article on retired Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet...
Former Navy rear admiral supports UFO whistleblower claims

32 posted on 12/20/2023 5:04:56 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: napscoordinator
Of all my concerns, this is number 1 million on my important list.

But then here you are, instead of spending time on the other 999,999 issues and articles on your list.

Why is that? Do you just like to hear yourself complain?

33 posted on 12/20/2023 5:07:38 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: spirited irish

Of course Six Ways Chuck is involved……


34 posted on 12/20/2023 5:10:48 AM PST by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting…)
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To: spirited irish
Release the files!!!
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35 posted on 12/20/2023 5:13:16 AM PST by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Ping to a good summary of what happened to the UAP Disclosure Amendment to the current NDAA.”

A version was passed but it is totally ineffectual. Just set up another level of bureaucracy to bury information.


36 posted on 12/20/2023 5:33:56 AM PST by odawg
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To: RoosterRedux

It’s like when a wife accuses her husband of having an affair and he denies the affair but refuses to let her see his phone and/or credit card statement.

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I’m not a lawyer, but even when married, I should think the husband has the right to refuse showing those things.
But that’s not your point. It’s the appearance of impropriety when someone doesn’t cooperate with interrogation. N’est pas?

I don’t understand why everyone thinks it’s okay to unveil state and national security seccrets.

Sure you are curious.
So am I. I was reading books on this stuff while my peers were reading comic books or Tokien or whatever. Like spooky Mulder ‘I wanted to believe’, but I’m hyper skeptical and it’s almost all just as concocted as the aforementioned comic books and fantasy novels.

So the arguments I’m getting is that these are bad people, bad corporations, and nobody can be trusted.
But what is the point of the transparency besides rabid curiosity?
I’m looking at it from a risk/reward standpoint, and while poeple can tell me what the risks of keeping national security secure are, they can’t seem to convince me that there is some great reward for ‘transparency’ that is worth it. The motives seem selfish at best, and as I have said in other threads, I just don’t trust that the driving forces behind the push for transparency aren’t friendly to us.


37 posted on 12/20/2023 5:35:57 AM PST by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: spirited irish

The more I hear of this, the more I am convinced that ‘lil Chuckie Schumer is putting this in as a straw man, to distract from whatever his controllers really want.

Whenever I hear “bi-partisan” or Schumer, then I can smell a rat through the Internet.

Something is certainly up, but whatever it is, it isn’t the shiny watch that the media wants us to focus on.


38 posted on 12/20/2023 5:37:55 AM PST by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: odawg
Yep. But from what many folks in Congress and elsewhere are saying, whistleblowers are pouring out of the woodwork to tell the truth (in classified hearings when necessary and in general sessions and to the press when not).

The DOD had its chance to manage an organized disclosure. Now what's called "catastrophic" or "uncontrolled" disclosure is going to take place.

As some have said, this is on the MIC contractors. They should have cooperated with Congress instead of being greedy.

39 posted on 12/20/2023 5:41:06 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: z3n
I don’t understand why everyone thinks it’s okay to unveil state and national security secrets.

The legislation that was killed exempted national security secrets from public disclosure.

40 posted on 12/20/2023 5:44:29 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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