Posted on 12/18/2023 9:52:05 AM PST by marcusmaximus
If by chance you are interested in Unidentified Flying Objects (UFO’s) and what is real and what is not, home grown; you may want to watch this video with Steven Greer. It is a multifaceted subject and by necessity can’t be explained in just a few words so it is a little bit long, but it is worth watching.
https://youtu.be/p2hk8Qp8dd0?t=14
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It always amazes me that both sides (I am over simplifying it by suggesting there are just two sides but still) claim that the other side are wrong because THEY are putting out disinformation to muddy the waters, gas light, and diminish their cases.
Steven Greer would suggest that guys like Alozondo or Pope are just out there for disinformation purposes, and guys like them, I am sure, would say the same about him.
I have a very big problem with the idea that we need to expose are ultra secret programs and technologies because they are supposedly being run by very bad people, whereas my personal fear is that they people who want the programs and technologies exposed are probably (secretly) America haters and don’t like that the US could potentially have a massive competitive advantage, or at least they need to assess the level of advancement because that’s what foreign intelligence does with it’s enemies. I’m more prone to trust that the compartmentalization is necessary to protect the programs from politicians, and for good reason. We (myself very much included) tend to complain about the power of the ‘deep state’ which is just a phrase that blankly covers all un-elected bureaucrats because they cannot be held accountable by voters like politicians can. However, in a case like this, where national security can be exploited by politicians for their own gain. Just look at some of the idiots and S.O.B.s who have been elected to office in our country over the last 25 years (see my signature). Are you telling me that they wouldn’t try to exploit these programs for their own power or political desires?
LOL.
Are you telling me that they wouldn’t try to exploit these programs for their own power or political desires?
You got a good point, technology can be used for either good or bad, unfortunately we have way too many people in power with a warped mind, who would use whatever they could lay their hands on to control their fellow man.
I figured you were doing a humorous imitation.
The problem with any secrecy is we don’t know what we don’t know.
That leaves the door wide open for bad actors to act badly without accountability.
I believe the Wilson/Davis memo is legit—and that a large number of members of Congress—both sides of the aisle—agree.
https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/114761/documents/HHRG-117-IG05-20220517-SD001.pdf
What this means is that the “secrecy” got to a point where there are no constitutional checks and balances at all.
That is what some of us call the “breakaway civilization”—some public and private officials who started to play the game by their own rules—and had the power to make it stick.
A ‘breakaway civilization’ that, on the whole, is still in our corner, even if corrupt, is still more palatable to me than bringing it up into the den of snakes and theives in congress, where not only could any type of ‘oversight’ simply become levers of corrupt power, but also exposed to the entire world, including our enemies.
I mean, what ever happened to that Pakistani IT hack and leak of congress? They sweat that crap sandwich under the rug, didn’t they?
The people using hyperbole call everyone they disagree with a ‘Russian Spy’ at the drop of the hat, particularly by democrats (remember, they called Trump a Russian spy, and Tucker Carlson, and everyone’s grandmother), but you actually have people running around saying that the American people need to rise up and force congress to expose all of our secrets sounds like a plot by our foreign adversaries to me.
I would encourage you to read Richard Dolan’s info on “breakaway civilization”. He actually invented the term.
Here is his web site for videos:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnaIeNm-jSa1l8yHrn7PlQg
He has been writing on this topic for several decades—and is not part of “a plot by foreign adversaries”.
Here is his Amazon booklist—all of his books are worth your time:
https://www.amazon.com/Books-Richard-Dolan/s?rh=n%3A283155%2Cp_27%3ARichard+Dolan
The “foreign adversaries” are as deep into this stuff as are Americans.
It is everybody’s elites vs all populations—this is not nation against nation.
Once you get that paradigm shift this stuff starts to make sense.
And I agree with you. There could very well be an evil aspect to this new contact because, if what we hear is true, we are connecting with many different types of other beings. Some may be benign and even friendly, but some might be deadly or worse.
We may be like Aztecs making contact with Cortez. Some people may disagree with me, but I think we should be extremely cautious.
At the very least, it's like hiking into a swamp for a biology field trip. Sure, there are lots of great things to study and learn about and ways to open our minds to new organisms...BUT there's also an incredible amount of potential danger from deadly snakes, quicksand, and alligators.
One thing that has been pointed out by many experiencers (formerly, abductees) is that there is a spiritual aspect to this contact and this spiritual aspect may contain what has historically (rightly or wrongly) been characterized as "evil."
Are you referring to Tucker’s speech at TPUSA’s AmericaFest 2023?
Gently changing topic—I just listened to the Knapp/Corbell interview of John Alexander (https://podbay.fm/p/weaponized-with-jeremy-corbell-and-george-knapp/e/1702972860) and it was amusing imho.
Alexander knew all these senior officials who genuinely knew nothing about the UFO/alien/crash retrieval topic even though their access to special access programs had to require such knowledge—at least from the job description.
The UFO community has been screaming for decades that “the rules” don’t apply on this topic—hard to imagine a smart guy like Alexander didn’t “get it”.
I think some of those folks were lying to Alexander—but my guess is that 70%+ were telling the truth—they were not read in on this stuff.
It looks like one way folks got to be “on the team” were family connections—it was difficult to “break into” the secret-keepers without those once the security apparatus was in place.
The abduction stories seem to indicate that most (all?) of the secret-keepers had abduction experiences during child-hood—so again if you had no such experience you were already disqualified from the “program”.
Very interesting point.
I have heard some abductees say that MANY (millions and millions of) people around the world have been abducted but they are completely unaware of their experiences because these memories are buried too deeply to be uncovered with regressive hypnosis.
And even those like Garry Nolan who remember seeing small gray men in their bedrooms as children might have been abducted quite regularly but can't remember it. Nolan speaks of having downloads of ideas (from his abductors) that have been used in his career as an immunologist at Stanford. He credits these downloads for his patent ideas. On top of that, he is often introduced as a Nobel Prize nominee (for immunology I presume). I wonder if he attributes that to downloads.;-)
If you have a link, it would be most appreciated. Thx much.
Seems likely if your position is true, that maybe you might want to read the Bible - I’d suggest the 4 gospels - Matthew, Mark, Luke & John for starters.
Or for some modern science and reason to defend the faith:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hhE6tzJR_c
Excellent. Thank you.
Crickets from Tucker on Colorado…
Crickets from Tucker on Colorado.
Crickets from Tucker on Colorado.
So what’s your point? It’s early yet and Tucker has been covering other issues.
Tucker can talk about the Babylon Bee today but not Colorado?
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